N. Korea and the World

Mr. Conspiracy · Dec 12, 2012

teammellieIRANfan said: ↑

Too bad how the North Korean people will probably starve more now, as a result of this satellite launch.
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Maybe they can eat some of the sawdust?
Of course I do doubt just how successful the launch was given the type of tall tale that tends to come from NK.

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2012/...ir-beast-dragon-head-deer-body_n_2259988.html

teammellieIRANfan · Dec 12, 2012

Mr. Conspiracy said: ↑

Maybe they can eat some of the sawdust?
Of course I do doubt just how successful the launch was given the type of tall tale that tends to come from NK.

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2012/...ir-beast-dragon-head-deer-body_n_2259988.html
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Apparently the North American Aerospace Defence Command (NORAD) confirmed the sattelite launch was succesful.

http://news.yahoo.com/north-korean-missile-deployed-object-appeared-reach-orbit-043122299.html

song219 · Dec 12, 2012

teammellieIRANfan said: ↑

Too bad how the North Korean people will probably starve more now, as a result of this satellite launch.
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"Dominant powers, like the United States, cannot halt the progress of independent states, who through resistance can quickly tread the path of scientific and technological self-reliance," he said.
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Too bad for the Koreans that their govt couldn't quickly tread the path of agricultural self-reliance.

Mr. Conspiracy · Dec 12, 2012

http://www.cnn.com/2012/12/12/world/asia/north-korea-rocket-launch/index.html?hpt=hp_c1

What the launch means
Wednesday's success was a breakthrough for the reclusive, nuclear-equipped state.
North Korea "could sell this technology to others, including Iran and Pakistan, who have been regular customers of North Korea's other missiles," warns Victor Cha, who analyzes the region for the Center for Strategic and International Studies.
"They still have other technological thresholds to cross (miniaturized warheads, reentry vehicle), but this was undeniably a major one."

a U.S. official confirmed that the object is in orbit. U.S. officials were looking into whether it is an operating satellite, the official said.
The regime's state-run Korean Central News Agency said the satellite, named Kwangmyongsong-3, was "fitted with survey and communications devices essential for the observation of the earth."
The satellite itself is probably not very sophisticated, said David Wright, a senior scientist with the Union of Concerned Scientists.
The regime showed it in April, and it was a small box with solar panels and a simple camera with some basic communication devices, he said.
He compared it to Sputnik 1, the first man-made satellite that Russia launched into space in 1957. The value lies in the launch rather than in the object that North Korea now has floating above the Earth, Wright said.
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Mr. Conspiracy · Dec 12, 2012

http://www.cnn.com/2012/12/12/world/asia/north-korea-rocket-reaction/index.html?hpt=hp_c1

Chinese Foreign Ministry spokesman Hong Lei expressed regret at North Korea's decision to launch despite the concerns of the international community.

Analysts say, however, that Beijing is unlikely to take a hard line on its neighbor.
China is thought to be primarily concerned with maintaining the status quo on the Korean peninsula given that any long-range missiles developed by North Korea are unlikely to be aimed at Beijing.
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Iranian Monitor · Dec 12, 2012

Iran successfully launched its first satellite into space back in 2009, using an Iranian satellite launch vehicle (SLV). Since then, Iran has had a couple of other satellite launches as well, using different Iranian SLVs. Currently, Iran is reported to have 3 different SLVs: the Safir SLV, the Safir-2 SLV, and the Simorgh SLV. N.Korea, on the other hand, had failed in past attempts to successfully launch a satellite into space and was reported to be facing difficulties with the third stage of its rocket this time around as well. Indeed, there were reports that N.Korea was planning to postpone this launch because of the technical problems it was facing, although eventually those technical problems were overcome. There were several reports, denied by Iran, that Iran was assisting N.Korea in this regard.

While there should no barriers in such technological cooperation, and two countries should be able to assist each other in this regard, the sanctions that exist, and the propaganda that can turn even the most innocent scientific exchanges into something sinister, serves its intended purpose of limiting the kind of scientific exchanges that would assist various independent countries in progressing in different scientific and technological endeavors. Otherwise, whether Iran receives assistance from N.Korea (as it reportedly used to receive in the earlier stages of its missile programs), or whether Iran provides assistance to N.Korea (as is alleged to have been providing ever since its space program raced ahead of N.Korea's), or both, is no one's business.

YankHibee · Dec 12, 2012

"Interesting" argument.

Mr. Conspiracy · Dec 13, 2012

It's interesting that an Islamic nation would work so closely with an atheist nation while hating a Jewish nation and a free nation.

CrewDust · Dec 14, 2012

Mr. Conspiracy said: ↑

It's interesting that an Islamic nation would work so closely with an atheist nation while hating a Jewish nation and a free nation.
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You have to get friends where you can.

JBigjake · Dec 15, 2012

CrewDust said: ↑

You have to get friends where you can.
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“If Hitler invaded hell I would make at least a favorable reference to the devil in the House of Commons.” – British Prime Minister Winston Churchill

teammellieIRANfan · Dec 23, 2012

(Reuters) - This month's rocket launch by reclusiveNorth Korea shows it has likely developed the technology, long suspected in the West, to fire a warhead more than 10,000 km (6,200 miles), South Korean officials said on Sunday, putting the U.S. West Coast in range.

North Korea said the December 12 launch put a weather satellite in orbit but critics say it was aimed at nurturing the kind of technology needed to mount a nuclear warhead on a long-range missile.

North Korea is banned from testing missile or nuclear technology under U.N. sanctions imposed after its 2006 and 2009 nuclear weapons tests and the U.N. Security Council condemned the launch.

South Korea retrieved and analyzed parts of the first-stage rocket that dropped in the waters off its west coast

"As a result of analyzing the material of Unha-3 (North Korea's rocket), we judged North Korea had secured a range of more than 10,000 km in case the warhead is 500-600 kg," a South Korean Defense Ministry official told a news briefing.

North Korea's previous missile tests ended in failure.

North Korea, which denounces the United States as the mother of all warmongers on an almost daily basis, has spent decades and scarce resources to try to develop technology capable of striking targets as far away as the United States and it is also working to build a nuclear arsenal.

But experts believe the North is still years away from mastering the technology needed to miniaturize a nuclear bomb to mount on a missile.

South Korean defense officials also said there was no confirmation whether the North had the re-entry technology needed for a payload to survive the heat and vibration without disintegrating.

Despite international condemnation, the launch this month was seen as a major boost domestically to the credibility of the North's young leader, Kim Jong-un, who took over power from his father who died last year.

Apparently encouraged by the euphoria, the fledgling supreme leader called for the development and launching of "a variety of more working satellites" and "carrier rockets of bigger capacity" at a banquet in Pyongyang on Friday which he hosted for those who contributed to the lift-off, according to North Korean state media.
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http://www.reuters.com/article/2012/12/23/us-korea-north-missile-idUSBRE8BM01720121223

argentine soccer fan · Jan 24, 2013

Mr. Conspiracy · Jan 25, 2013

NK is sure showing a more bellicose side of late.

http://www.cnn.com/2013/01/25/world/asia/north-korea-threat-south/index.html?hpt=hp_t1

In its latest bout of saber-rattling, North Korea on Friday warned of the possibility of "strong physical counter-measures" against South Korea in relation to tougher sanctions imposed this week by the United Nations.
The threat against South Korea came a day after the North said it would carry out a new nuclear test and more long-range rocket launches as part of a new phase of confrontation with the United States.

At the same time, North Korea's strong words and vow to conduct a third nuclear test -- previous ones took place in 2006 and 2009 -- appear to be testing the patience of its main ally, China, which voted in favor of the U.N. sanctions this week.
An editorial published Friday in the English-language edition of the state-run Chinese newspaper Global Times struck a displeased tone over Pyongyang's comments a day earlier.
"China's role and position are clear when discussing North Korea issue in the U.N. Security Council," the editorial said. "If North Korea engages in further nuclear tests, China will not hesitate to reduce its assistance to North Korea."
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Mr. Conspiracy · Feb 7, 2013

Gotta love those crafty bastards in NK!!

LOL

http://www.cnn.com/2013/02/07/business/north-korea-video-youtube-activision/index.html?hpt=hp_t3

A bizarre three-and-a-half minute North Korean propaganda video -- depicting a city resembling New York but with its skyscrapers on fire -- was pulled from YouTube this week after videogame maker Activision said those scenes were lifted from its top-selling game "Call of Duty."
Clicking on the now-defunct YouTube link brings up the message: "This video has been removed by the user. Sorry about that." But the video can still be found elsewhere on the internet.
The anti-U.S. video also employs an instrumental version of "We Are the World," written by Michael Jackson and Lionel Richie, while a sleeping North Korean man apparently dreams himself aboard a North Korean space shuttle launched into orbit around the Earth.
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CrewDust · Feb 11, 2013

Looks like another test:

http://www.cnn.com/2013/02/11/world/asia/north-korea-seismic-disturbance/

teammellieIRANfan · Feb 24, 2013

North Korea warns U.S. forces of "destruction" ahead of war drills

(Reuters) - North Korea on Sunday warned the top U.S. military commander stationed in South Korea that his forces would "meet a miserable destruction" if they go ahead with scheduled military drills with South Korean troops, North Korean state media said.
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http://www.reuters.com/article/2013/02/23/us-korea-north-idUSBRE91M05220130223

guignol · Feb 24, 2013

damn! we just cleaned her up too!

Mr. Conspiracy · Mar 7, 2013

NK are really going all out to get attention. First the Rodman visit, then the threat to end the armistace, and now a nuclear threat.

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-asia-21704862

The UN Security Council has unanimously approved fresh sanctions against North Korea in response to Pyongyang's nuclear test last month.
The resolution is targeting North Korean diplomats, cash transfers and access to luxury goods.
It imposes asset freezes and travel bans on three individuals and two firms linked to North Korea's military.
Pyongyang earlier vowed to use its right to a pre-emptive nuclear attack against its "aggressors".

Pyongyang has so far made no comments following Thursday's vote.
But earlier it accused the US of pushing to start a war.
"As long as the United States is willing to spark nuclear war, our forces will exercise their right to a pre-emptive nuclear strike," said North Korea's foreign ministry, in a statement carried by the KCNA news agency, without giving further details.
Earlier this week, Pyongyang also threatened to scrap the 60-year truce which ended the 1950-53 Korean War.
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Macsen · Mar 7, 2013

I have a feeling North Korea may attempt a false flag nuclear attack on one of their own cities, and try to use it as justification to nuke South Korea (and try to nuke us).

I don't think they're smart enough...or, more importantly, sane enough...to realize they can't do much with South Korea if they irradiate it.

Mr. Conspiracy · Mar 7, 2013

Orlando Rays said: ↑

I have a feeling North Korea may attempt a false flag nuclear attack on one of their own cities, and try to use it as justification to nuke South Korea (and try to nuke us).

I don't think they're smart enough...or, more importantly, sane enough...to realize they can't do much with South Korea if they irradiate it.
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For all their talk, I am skeptical of their delivery systems for any nukes at this time. Airplane obviously, but so far as I know they haven't been able to put a warhead on a missile yet.

CrewDust · Mar 7, 2013

Mr. Conspiracy said: ↑

For all their talk, I am skeptical of their delivery systems for any nukes at this time. Airplane obviously, but so far as I know they haven't been able to put a warhead on a missile yet.
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And they don't really have the aircraft to carry the likely size of a bomb they could make.

The Biscuitman · Mar 8, 2013

Mr. Conspiracy · Mar 8, 2013

North Korea ends all non-aggression pacts with South and shuts down Hotline.

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-asia-21709917

North Korea says it is scrapping all non-aggression pacts with South Korea, closing its hotline with Seoul and shutting their shared border point.
The announcement follows a fresh round of UN sanctions punishing Pyongyang for its nuclear test last month.
Earlier, Pyongyang said it had a right to carry out a pre-emptive nuclear strike and was pulling out of the armistice that ended the Korean War.

China, which is the North's only major ally, called for both North and South to show restraint and to continue talking.
Beijing rarely criticises its ally, but has criticised the North's nuclear tests and has given support to the UN's sanctions.
South Korea's President Park Geun-hye said the current security situation was "very grave" but that she would "deal strongly" with provocation from the North.
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yellowbismark · Mar 8, 2013

Mr. Conspiracy said: ↑

Gotta love those crafty bastards in NK!!

LOL

http://www.cnn.com/2013/02/07/business/north-korea-video-youtube-activision/index.html?hpt=hp_t3
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Colbert made pretty good fun of this last night with his own dream

Macsen · Mar 8, 2013

Mr. Conspiracy said: ↑

For all their talk, I am skeptical of their delivery systems for any nukes at this time. Airplane obviously, but so far as I know they haven't been able to put a warhead on a missile yet.
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The assumption being made from their latest nuclear test is that they miniaturized their warheads. So they may be able to.

But as I suggested, their leadership has a few screws loose. They absolutely would be biting off more than they can chew, and that doesn't include the possibility that they could screw up royally.