My choices for CMNT at upcoming Gold Cup

Discussion in 'Canada' started by Adam T, Mar 10, 2015.

  1. Adam T

    Adam T Member

    Jun 26, 2006
    The tournament is just four months away. I'm surprised there isn't already a thread for this. Of maybe I just can't find it.

    I'd like to see both Julian de Guzman and Dwayne de Rosario be honored the same way Landon Donovan was with a final game in a warmup for the Gold Cup, but I wouldn't take either.

    Ages are the ages they will be on June 30, 2015
    Keepers
    1.Milan Borjan,27 FK Radnicki Nis, Serbian Premier League
    2.Kenny Stamatopoulous, 35, AIK, Swedish Premier League
    3.Lars Hirschfeld,36, Valerenga, Norway Premier League

    if Hirshfeld has retired from the national team, I'd take either:
    1.Tomer Chencinski,30, Ro PS, Finnish Premier League
    2.John Smits,26, FC Edmonton, NASL

    Defenders
    1.Marcel de Jong,28, Sporting Kansas City, MLS, Leftback
    2.Ashtone Morgan,24, Toronto FC, MLS, Leftback
    3.Andre Hainault,29, VFR Aalen, 2 Bundesliga, Centreback
    4.Manjrekou James,21, Pecsi MFC, Hungarian Premier League, Centreback
    5.Dejan Jakovic,29, Shinizu S-Pulse, J-League, Centreback
    6.David Edgar,28, Birmingham City, Championship, Rightback
    7.Atiba Hutchinson,32, Besiktas, Turkish Premier League, Rightback

    Midfielders
    1.Patrice Bernier,35, Montreal Impact, MLS, D-Mid
    2.Nik Ledgerwood,30. FC Energie Cottbus, 3 Liga (3 Bundesliga), D-Mid
    3.Will Johnson,28, Portland Timbers, MLS, Central Midfielder
    4.Jonathan Osorio,23, Toronto FC, MLS, Central Midfielder
    5.Russell Teibert,22, Vancouver Whitecaps FC, MLS, Left Midfielder
    6.Keven Aleman,21, Belen, Costa Rica Primera, Left Midfielder/Attacking Midfielder
    7.Stefan Cebara,24, FC Vion Zlate Moravce, Slovak Premier League, Right Midfielder
    8.Terry Dunfield,33, Ross County, Scottish Premier League, Right Midfielder/Central Midfielder
    9.Kyle Bekker,24, Dallas FC, MLS, Attacking Midfielder

    Strikers
    1.Olivier Occean,33, Odd, Norway Premier League
    2.Tosaint Ricketts,27, Hapoel Haifa, Israel Premier League
    3.Simeon Jackson,28, Coventry City, English League One
    4.Randy Edwini-Bonsu,25, Stuttgart Kickers, 3 Liga (3 Bundesliga)

    Anybody missing? Any mistakes? Any players here retired from the national team? Is the Gold Cup roster only 20 players?
     
  2. Polygong

    Polygong Moderator
    Staff Member

    Apr 8, 2007
    Toronto
    Club:
    Toronto FC
    Nat'l Team:
    Canada
    I was waiting until the final schedule and groups were announced before starting a thread specifically for the Gold Cup. When that comes out I will set something up.

    As for your squad picks, I would pick pretty much the same. Don't understand why you have Hutch listed as a defender though, he's an attacking mid.

    Does anybody know what's going on with Will Johnson? He hasn't played with the team in over a year and I'm not sure why. Has he fallen out of favour or has he decided he doesn't want to be bothered?

    Here's the starting XI I would put out (assuming Johnson is still playing with us):

    Borjan
    Henry - Hainault - Edgar - DeJong
    Osorio - Hutch - Johnson - Teibert
    Randy E-B - Ricketts
     
  3. Jcc21

    Jcc21 Member

    Feb 3, 2015
    Toronto
    Nat'l Team:
    Canada
    I think that defense and midfield looks good but unfortunately we're really weak in the forward department. Any news on whats happening with Hoilett?
     
  4. Polygong

    Polygong Moderator
    Staff Member

    Apr 8, 2007
    Toronto
    Club:
    Toronto FC
    Nat'l Team:
    Canada
    I've long given up on Hoilett. It's a shame he won't play for us but we need to move on with what we have. The onyl good news is that it seems Jamaica won't get him either.
     
  5. Daniel from Montréal

    Aug 4, 2000
    Montréal
    Club:
    Montreal Impact
    Nat'l Team:
    Canada
    Johnson was injured for 6 months in September. He should be back a month into the season according to this.

    With Mapp injured on the Impact, look for Max Tissot to get some games under his belt and maybe play himself into contention for a spot.
     
  6. Adam T

    Adam T Member

    Jun 26, 2006
    My bad, Hutchinson is a midfielder, but according to transfermrkt his first position is defensive midfielder and his secondary position is right back.
    http://www.transfermarkt.com/atiba-hutchinson/profil/spieler/16101
     
  7. Adam T

    Adam T Member

    Jun 26, 2006
    From wiki: In March 2012, Hoilett told various media bodies that he would consider playing for the England national football team if eligible. As Hoilett, his parents and grandparents were not born on the territory of The Football Association, Hoilett needed to meet additional criteria established between the associations of the Home Nations. The Home Nations do not offer eligibility to play for their national teams based solely on a residency requirement, instead they require players to be educated in the relevant Football Association's territory for five years before the age of 18. While Hoilett joined Blackburn at 13 years of age and did spend five years under contract to the club before turning 18, his two years spent living in Germany on loan to SC Paderborn and St. Pauli mean that he is not eligible for the English national team under the terms of the "Home nations agreement" which prevents players becoming eligible through residency and by requiring a foreign-national to undergo 5 years of education before the age of 18 in the territory of the Football Association he wishes to play for.
     
  8. Polygong

    Polygong Moderator
    Staff Member

    Apr 8, 2007
    Toronto
    Club:
    Toronto FC
    Nat'l Team:
    Canada
    I knew about his injury (in fact, I was at the game where he got injured), but it had still been six months before that since his last appearance.

    Now that he's a little out of shape coming off the injury, and since he hasn't been in the fold for so long, I'm wondering if he may not even get the call, or if he does will be a bench player. Hope not, we could really use him out there.
     
  9. adam CZ

    adam CZ Member

    Feb 19, 2014
    Toronto, Canada
    Club:
    Chelsea FC
    Nat'l Team:
    Czechia
    Hutchinson would definitely play in the centre of the midfield for us, although with Besiktas he's played at every position in defence or midfield at some point.
     
  10. Polygong

    Polygong Moderator
    Staff Member

    Apr 8, 2007
    Toronto
    Club:
    Toronto FC
    Nat'l Team:
    Canada
    Big surprise, we`re in group B. And as I also predicted, Jamaica is also in Group B, and to prove my genius even further, Canada and Jamaica are not playing against one another at the match being held in Toronto (we`ll be playing against Costa Rica). Also in group B is El Slavador.

    Over the next couple of days I will start a Gold Cup 2015 specific thread with pertinent details in the inital post.
     
  11. Adam T

    Adam T Member

    Jun 26, 2006
  12. Kingston

    Kingston Member+

    Oct 6, 2005
    I'd replace one of the defenders you list (probably Morgan) with Doneil Henry.
     
  13. Adam T

    Adam T Member

    Jun 26, 2006
    I can see that, but I prefer players who are playing regularly in a (semi) major league like MLS than a player who is playing on an under 23 team.
     
  14. Polygong

    Polygong Moderator
    Staff Member

    Apr 8, 2007
    Toronto
    Club:
    Toronto FC
    Nat'l Team:
    Canada
    Henry is now on loan to Blackburn Rovers and has started both league games since he got there (was on the bench for an FA Cup match).

    By all accounts he played very well in both games (assisting on the winning goal in the second one) and looks to be a regular starter for the rest of the season. Someone who can start regularly in the Championship surely is a shoo in for the CMNT.
     
  15. Adam T

    Adam T Member

    Jun 26, 2006
    Oh cool, that's pretty impressive, especially for a 22 year old. I didn't know that. He's doing better than DeAndre Yedlin.
     
  16. Adam T

    Adam T Member

    Jun 26, 2006
    Doneil Henry is listed as a centreback while Morgan is a leftback. I'd drop either Manrejkou James or Dejan Jakovic.
     
  17. Adam T

    Adam T Member

    Jun 26, 2006
    #17 Adam T, Mar 15, 2015
    Last edited: Mar 15, 2015
    Another possible leftback (and Canada really lacks depth at this position):

    From a post on mlssoccer.com
    (Vancouver Whitecaps' Sam) Adekugbe was really superb. The young man covers the ground and knows some of what to do when he arrives, too. Couldn't believe when Manneh ignored his overlap late and turned the ball over. By the time Chicago's counter got close there was Sam, rounding into position out of nowhere.

    Similar to Doneil Henry, is there any possibility of young Canadian, D-mid, and current Deportivo Reserve Player Samuel Piette being transferred to a team in a higher level league?
     
  18. Adam T

    Adam T Member

    Jun 26, 2006
    I, of course, meant loaned, not 'transferred'.
     
  19. Adam T

    Adam T Member

    Jun 26, 2006
    National Team up and comers

    Mostly Young players, of course. Am I missing anybody? Any mistakes?
    A number have already played for the national team.

    Keepers
    1.Tomer Chencinski,30, RoPS, Finland Veikkasuliiga
    2.Marcel De Bellis,24, Ottawa Fury, NASL
    3.John Smits,26, Edmonton FC, NASL
    4.Quillan Roberts,20, TFC II, USL
    5.Maxime Crepeau,22, Montreal II, USL
    6.Marco Carducci,18, Vancouver Whitecaps II, USL

    Defenders
    1.Sam Adekugbe,20, Vancouver Whitecaps, MLS, Left back
    2.Karl Ouimette,23, New York Red Bulls II, USL, Centre back
    3.Daniel Stanese,21, FC Augsburg II, Centre back
    4.Adam Straith,24, Fredrickstad, Norway Second Division (One Division), Centre back
    5.Manrjekou James,21, Pécsi MFC, Hungarian Premier League, Centre back

    Midfielders
    1.Emmett O'Connor,22, Lewes FC, Eng Regional League, On Loan from Crawley Town, Eng Third Div, Left Mid
    2.Samuel Piette,20, Deportivo La Caruna II, D-Mid
    3.Charlie Trafford,23, KuPS, Finland Veikkasuliiga, midfielder
    4.Michael Petrasso,19, Queens Park Rangers U-21, Midfielders

    Strikers
    1.Ben Fisk,22, Coruxo FC, Spanish Third Division (Segunda B)
    2.Daniel Haber,23, AO AGIA NAPA, Cypriot Premier League, On Loan From Apollon Limassol, Cypriot Premier
    3.Marcus Haber,26, Crewe Alexandra, England Third Division (League One)
    4.Cyle Larin,20, Orlando City, MLS

    Another one that got away
    1.Lucas Cavallini,22, Atletico Fenix, Uruguay Primera, Striker
     
  20. baulderdash77

    baulderdash77 New Member

    Dec 16, 2012
    Club:
    Toronto FC
    De Guzman, Haber and Larin will be on the first team; there's no doubt of that. If Akindele accepts the call (and according to Floro it's a 99.0% chance) then he'll also be on the first team. I'd be shocked if Henry isn't on the team since along with Edgar he's our best CB.

    I'd doubt that Occean, Dunfield, Crebera and Aleman get the call. James is questionable if Henry is healthy.
     
  21. Adam T

    Adam T Member

    Jun 26, 2006
    Updated with start of MLS season and completion of European season (in most countries)

    A-Team
    Keepers
    1.Milan Borjan, 27, Serbia SuperLiga
    2.Kenny Stamatopoulos, 35, Sweden Allvenskan
    3.Tomer Chencinski,30, Finland Veikkausliiga

    Defenders
    1.Marcel de Jong,28, MLS, Left back
    2.Ashtone Morgan,24, MLS Left back
    3.David Edgar,28, Championship Right back (side position)
    4.Karl Ouimette,23 (in a couple weeks), MLS Right back (side position)
    5.Doneil Henry,22, Championship, Center back
    6.Andre Hainault,29 (in a couple weeks) 2Bundesliga Center back
    7.Dejan Jakovic,29, J-League, Center Back

    Midfielders
    1.Atiba Hutchinson,32, Turkey Super Lig, D-Mid
    2.Patrice Bernier,35 MLS, D-Mid
    3.Stefan Cebara,24 Slovakia Super Liga, Right Wing
    4.Randy Edwini-Bonsu,25, 3Liga, Right Wing
    5.Russell Teibert,22 MLS, Left Wing
    6.Charlie Trafford,22, Finland Veikkausliiga, Left Wing?
    7.Will Johnson,28, MLS, C-Mid
    8.Jonathan Osorio,23 (in a couple weeks) MLS, C-Mid
    9.Keven Aleman,21, Costa Rica Premiera, Attacking Midfielder

    Strikers
    1.Cyle Larin,20 MLS
    2.Tesho Akindele,23 MLS
    3. Tosaint Ricketts,27, Israel Ligat HaAl
    4.Marcus Haber,26, League One
     
  22. Adam T

    Adam T Member

    Jun 26, 2006
    B-Team
    Keepers
    1.Lars Hirschfeld,36, Norway Tippeligaen
    2.John Smits,26, NASL, on loan to MLS Montreal Impact
    3.Quillan Roberts,20, USL (TFC2)

    Defenders
    1.Sam Adekugbe,20, MLS, Left back
    2.Maxim Tissot,23, MLS, Left back
    3.Michael Nonni,25, NASL, Right back
    4.Tyler Pasher,21, USL, Right back?
    5.Manjrekar James,21, Hungary Nemzeti Bajonaksag, Center back (side position)
    6.Nana Attakora,26, NASL, Center back
    7.Adam Straith,25, Norway OBOS-ligaen, Center Back
    7b.Daniel Stanese,21, Germany, Regionalliga Bayern, Center Back

    Midfielders
    1.Julian de Guzman,34, NASL, D-Mid
    2.Dominic Oppong,29, NASL, D-Mid
    2b.Samuel Piette,20, Spain Tercera Division, D-Mid
    3. Nick Ledgerwood,30, Germany 3Liga, Right Wing (side position)
    4.Iain Hume,31, League Two, Right Wing
    5.Michael Petrasso,19, EPL U-21, Left Wing?
    6.Daniel Haber,23, Cyprus First Division, Left Wing (side position)
    7.Terry Dunfield,33, Scottish Premiership (just released), C-Mid
    8.Philippe Davis,24, NASL, C-Mid
    9.Kyle Bekker,24, MLS, Attacking Midfielder

    Strikers
    1.Ben Fisk,22, Spain, Segunda Division B
    2.Simeon Jackson,28, League One
    3.Olivier Occean,33, Norway Tippeligaen
    4.Kyle Porter,25, NASL
     
  23. primus_pilum

    primus_pilum Member

    May 4, 2014
    Club:
    Aston Villa FC
    Benito Floro plays 4-1-4-1. He seems pretty consistent with that formation. The back four will definitely have David Edgar, probably at CB. Ledgerwood to play RB. Marcel de Jong at LB. The other CB could be Jakovic, Hainault, maybe Henry. At the lone DM its gonna be Julian de Guzman. JDG has Spanish league cred, and lots of team Canada experience. The next 4 across the midfield? Hutch for sure, Randy E-B, the other two spots I don't know. the Lone striker will be tough. Cyle Larin,Jordan Hamilton, Ricketts, maybe Tesho if he commits.
     

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