http://www.footballnl.com/news2002_2/news1451.htm The KNVB have already refuted their license for next season due to the clubs inability to settle their €1.5 million Euros debts and with players, coach and staff still waiting for several months wages . In an interview in the Dutch provincial daily newspaper 'Dagblad de Limburger Kessler said "MVV is the only club where the structure is wrong. "In contrary to clubs like TOP Oss, FC Twente and FC Utrecht where there's room for a solution. MVV hasn't got a license, because the club hasn't given any solutions to paying back their debts."
More clubs deserve to have their license taken away, it's that the city counsel where MVV is located seems to be the only one which has some common sense not to pour more millions into a 'company' which has shown it doesn't know how to use it.
None of the clubs in trouble have a business plan, other than 'the government will pay our debts for us'. The only difference here is that the local government isn't willing to give millions of the tax payer's money to save this team, unlike in Utrecht and Arnhem. Ignoring the fact that the tax payer's money which would have been used for roads, education etc. etc. is given to a club who's management obviously doesn't know the first thing about how to use any kind of currency...this whole government supporting a 'business' thing is against EU rules, which could lead to a hefty fine for the Netherlands in the future...which means even more tax payer's money would get wasted. This is the reason why my cigarettes are 200% more expensive than in other country!?!?
Don't feel too bad; imagine how much of my taxpayer's money was spent in Iraq ! (That's why I quit smoking...)
Didn't Utrecht just make a ton of money from selling the power company? What the effects of losing a team on some of these cities? Will they lose additional tax dollars? Quality of life? Some of these things have to be looked at. Of course if you have poor management in place, you are just throwing money down the drain.
You shouldn't smoke anyway. Bad for you. As for US tax dollars- think of all the money wasted for the past 50 years. Makes me ill.
Don't know but - LINK - Utrecht (the city, not the team) will most likely spend millions and millions of euros to keep the club alive. Beer, cheaper everywhere else than Holland because of the extra taxes. Cigarettes, cheaper everywhere else Albums, cheaper everywhere else Gasoline, cheaper everywhere else We don't get no free refills of our drinks at the McDonalds
Your starting to lul uit je nek Cigarettes, Beer are not cheaper everywhere else. That I know for sure. Besides that, stuff like this (governmental support) also happens in other countries. It's hardly relevant anyway IMO, a football club is not a regular business. The fact that money is made doesn't mean you're a business like any other. So the EU should go and mind their own business instead of being so stiffassed about football. Your dear old Real sold their training ground to the city as well if I remember correctly.
All things being equal, NL is a relatively inexpensive place to live in, among the so-called "first world" countires. So as long as you don't drink beer, quit smoking, don't buy albums, drive a SmartCar, and drink only tap water, you're fine
Beer and cigarettes are most certainly cheaper everywhere else I've been to, where are they more expensive? I'm not talking about being able to find a more expensive particular brand of beer abroad, but about how both are more expensive on average here....accijnzen up da wazoo, and last I heard they want to raise the accijnzen even higher..bastards! Madrid made a business transaction, the government bought the ground to build on it. The district goverment of Utrecht will have a hand in buying FC Utrecht's stadium, not so they can wreck it and build whatever they want on it (like in Madrid) but to financially support FC Utrecht. I don't like EU treating football like a normal business either, but it's the case, and these local governments all spending millions to keep these teams afloat could very well lead to problems for Holland when Brussels finds the time to deal with this.
I'd rather pay more money for good beer, then the crap they serve over here. Grolsch, Duvel, Leffe....that's beer.
England, France, all of Scandinavia. Sure, it's a business transaction. So is buying the Utrecht stadium. It really doesn't matter if they demolish it after that. That has nothing to do with the transaction itself. And Madrid buying the complex for that amount of money isn't a fair and square transaction either. No way in hell it's worth that kind of money. Legally, it's easy to get around those laws if someone looks into it.
Madrid's ground was big in size, in the middle of the capitol city, and you can build anything you want on it (huizenvestingplan?) of course it's worth the money they got for it. How is it a business transaction when the city of Utrecht has nothing to gain from it? It's financial aid.
Has nothing to do with it. If I buy something and never use it... does that mean I didn't actually buy it? Besides, they can use it to host concerts or houseparties or stuff like that.
What does this have to do with it? Utrecht aren't spending 25 million euros so they can get back more money in the long term, this isn't an investment, the sole reason for them to spend this money is to keep FC Utrecht afloat. They might very well not see this money returned ever again. Compare that to Madrid where the government will build multiple complexes on the ground they've bought, this was an investment for them to bring more economy $$$ to that region and eventually earn back the money they've spent. One isn't a problem for the EU, the other is. Never been to England or a Scandinavian country; France definitely doesn't have higher cigarette prices...don't know about the beer because I was mooching off other people at the time. Iceland has cheaper prices for both products though, also a cold country up north like Norway etc.
Is Utrecht going to charge interest to the builder? Concerts might be tough on the grass, but it could be more revenue.