MVP Poll at FSW, Cannon kicking butt

Discussion in 'D.C. United' started by GrillMaster, Nov 11, 2004.

  1. GrillMaster

    GrillMaster Member

    Aug 31, 2000
    Alexandria, VA
    Club:
    DC United
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
  2. Th4119

    Th4119 Member

    Jul 26, 2001
    Annandale, VA
    That's just their dumb online poll.

    Cannon is probably sitting on his computer now voting for himself repeatadly while skimming BigSoccer to try and find out who the Rapids new coach is going to be next year.

    It's a complete joke for the true MLS award if Jaime doesn't win it now, because while he has been dominant in the postseason and led his team to the Final, the other two jokers are sitting around getting ready to watch him on TV because they couldn't get it done and choked out of the first round.
     
  3. CHICO13

    CHICO13 Moderator
    Staff Member

    Oct 4, 2001
    SECTION 135
    Club:
    The Strongest La Paz
    Nat'l Team:
    Bolivia
    I hope they do give it to Cannon and it pisses Jaime off royal. I'd rather see him get MVP of MLS Cup "04. That would be his second and our fourth star.
     
  4. Clint Eastwood

    Clint Eastwood Member+

    Dec 23, 2003
    Somerville, MA
    Club:
    FC Dallas
    Question: Did they vote on MVP prior to the playoffs? I remember hearing that for Coach of the year the votes are already in, hence Boob Andrulis will probably win. Funny, more torment for Crew fans.

    Isn't there an MVP of the playoffs? Hopefully a DC player will win that.

    Opinion: A goalkeeper shouldn't be MVP of the league. That's just my opinion. There's already a GK of the year award. He'll win that, and it's well deserved. To me Jaime is the MVP of the league. I equate this to the CY/MVP argument in baseball. There's a special award for pitchers, so they rarely get MVP.
     
  5. Red&Black

    Red&Black Member+

    Aug 30, 2001
    Lot 8
    Club:
    DC United
    Nat'l Team:
    Burkina Faso
    i'd rather see him kill cannon with his bare hands :mad:
     
  6. GrillMaster

    GrillMaster Member

    Aug 31, 2000
    Alexandria, VA
    Club:
    DC United
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    I just don't think the MVP award should go to a keeper. The keeper only plays half the game, defense, except for the very rare assist on a long distribution or the even rarer goal (Friedel in the 2003-2004 EPL is the last one I know of). Virtually all modern outfield players are two-way players, and that is where the distinction should be made.

    JMO/YMMV

    GM
     
  7. TigerHawk

    TigerHawk New Member

    Dec 31, 2001
    I voted, but I'm sure Jaime would rather have a ring ...

    Did I hear that they're announcing the winner sometime today? Anybody know? (Just got back from a business trip, and my brain is still fuzzy.)
     
  8. AndyMead

    AndyMead Homo Sapien

    Nov 2, 1999
    Seat 12A
    Club:
    Sporting Kansas City
    4pm ESPNNEWS
     
  9. Red&Black

    Red&Black Member+

    Aug 30, 2001
    Lot 8
    Club:
    DC United
    Nat'l Team:
    Burkina Faso
    that's a pretty narrow and dare i say, old fashioned, view of keeping. if you look a system like the ones at Ajax, you see the keeper can play a very important role in the offense--in many ways his distribution is the way in which the offense gets started.

    that's not to say i'm defending cannon, but it is certainly possiblie to be quite offensive from the 1 spot.
     
  10. GrillMaster

    GrillMaster Member

    Aug 31, 2000
    Alexandria, VA
    Club:
    DC United
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    Yes, I hear what you are saying (note my excepts), but the fact is, a keeper virtually never wins a game for a side, unless it's from a PK taken by the GK. The keeper might prevent the side from losing, but putting the side ahead is for the outfield players.

    'nuff said about Cannon. I hope Meola plays on Sunday -- might as well beat their best.

    GM
     
  11. gnat

    gnat New Member

    Oct 1, 2003
    I think Nicky might argue with you on this after last weekend. Had he not made two massive PK saves, we'd probably still be there. :D

    I sorta agree with Rob (that a keeper should be eligible), but I don't think MVP has anything to do with offense or defense. I think it has more to do with their impact on the team as a whole.

    If you take United by itself, I think we have two players that really stood out as MVP this year. If you look at both Nelsen and Moreno, there was a noticeable difference in how the team played when they came on/off the field and that is what I think MVP should be about.

    All that being said, screw Joe Bazooka, we've got the MVP :D

    -dave
     
  12. AndyMead

    AndyMead Homo Sapien

    Nov 2, 1999
    Seat 12A
    Club:
    Sporting Kansas City
    According to MLSnet, it's now 3pm ET ESPNNEWS
     
  13. Jose L. Couso

    Jose L. Couso New Member

    Jul 31, 2000
    Arlington, VA
    Thanks for the heads up.

    I hope Jaime wins it.

    I totally agree with the GK should not win it argument.
     
  14. McOwen

    McOwen Member

    Jun 13, 2000
    Retirement Community
    Club:
    Nottingham Forest FC
    89% Cannon

    9% Moreno

    --What a crock of $hit :D
     

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