Murder of United Health Care CEO

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  1. stanger

    stanger BigSoccer Supporter

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    The guy that runs American Commitment came from the Cato institute according to their website.
     
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  2. Cascarino's Pizzeria

    Apr 29, 2001
    New Jersey, USA
    My bro was staying with mom for a week helping to take care of her, keeping the house up, etc while my sister was on vacay. Sis goes over a few X a week to help out and there is also a caretaker who goes half days 4X a week. Anyway, he sees what he thinks is a "final letter" from AAA and tosses it out. Turns out it was her AARP Medicare insurance and it was canceled and she had to get another one that cost $200 more a month. My sister was piiiissed.
     
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  3. Brilliant Oranje

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  4. Brilliant Oranje

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    It appears that some healthcare companies seem to be getting the message

    https://vm.tiktok.com/ZMk8kGpDV/
     
  5. Brilliant Oranje

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    Not true.

    The veterinarian gun he used needs to be continuously loaded after each shot
     
  6. MattR

    MattR Member+

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    Look, I don't want to defend the attacker or the attack. But I believe that the support this is getting is a referendum of the times we currenty live in. Trump won because he supposedly is fighting for the "little guy, the white working class," whatever you want to call it. He's fighting against "the establishment," whatever that is.

    Simply put, the government expansion we have had over the last century is in effect a response to uncontrolled corporate power. Regulations and the government are supposed to protect the electorate (customers and employees) against big evil corporations. The deceased was just doing his job, "Maximizing Shareholder Value." Anything that gets in the way of this - regulations, minimum wages, mandatory vacations or maternity leave - is the enemy of those corporations. Interestingly, the government is the one that is trying to create and enforce these regulations.

    But due to post-Citizens United realities, the two major political parties need more and more cash (provided by corporations and their rich owners) and therefore regulations and enforcements are no longer efficient and no longer protect the citizen. They've noticed this, and everyone (well 80% of the country) agrees we are headed "in the wrong direction."

    Problem is that half the country thinks it is OVER regulation that is screwing them - especially things like immigration and affirmative action and minimum wages and healthcare that lets THEM (brown people) have the same rights THEY (white blue collor factory/mine workers) have had for generations; or that job losses (coal mines, factories, retail) aren't just part of the new internet post-covid economic cycles, but because regulations are ending them; and the other half thinks the government is still too beholden to corporations and the government needs to go after them.

    We have UHC at my big fancy new space economy corporation, because it's the cheapest. And it's the cheapest so we'll probably still use them. Although if this whole assasination thing happened over the summer, a bunch of the "ask me anything" all hands about benefits would have been... more interesting.
     
  7. MattR

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    TLDR; Whenever the powerful people in government and the powerful people in the ruling class gang up on the citizenry, violence is an option.
     
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  8. roby

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    What is the other option? :unsure:
     
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  9. Jeremy Goodwin

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    #134 Jeremy Goodwin, Dec 8, 2024
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    this claim is truly not a trifling one. But however powerfully this may react on political views in particular cases, still it must always be regarded as only a modification of them; for the political view is the object
    - Carl von Clausewitz

    People agree about the justness of this because they either have a common political objective, or they are able to independently project their own different political objectives into the possible motives for the actor.

    Whether something is good or bad is also not the same as whether it is just or unjust. Killing is bad, but lots of people who believe that also believe that capital punishment is just.
     
  10. stanger

    stanger BigSoccer Supporter

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    I’m curious as to the type of policy and the reason for cancellation?
     
  11. MattR

    MattR Member+

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    Eliminate and/or regulate the notion that money = speech?
     
  12. roby

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    @stanger I'm surprised at you! Having experienced knowledge about something as opposed to perceived ones is always gonna get you in trouble! :whistling:
     
  13. stanger

    stanger BigSoccer Supporter

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    I see so much outright bullshit being thrown about on a daily basis I have to pick my battles.
     
  14. deejay

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    Having worked in healthcare development for close to 20 years I have a few things to say about this. Every American knows that there is a healthcare issue for decades and everybody knows that the issue is affordability. Pharmaceutical companies, Insurance companies and hospitals all make big profits and often through corrupt practices. None of the government initiatives from either party actually attacked the primary issue in the last two decades. While I thought the ACA had some interesting aspects it's cumulative effect has not slowed down healthcare costs nor did I expect them to. So far, we haven't had that moment were the government steps in and takes the right regulatory steps. It's as bad or worse as the defense industry.
     
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  15. deejay

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    Regarding the killer, I remain convinced that this wasn't the run of the mill passion based hit like so many assassination attempts turn out to be. However, I am beginning to think that this was not a professional killer because of the strange, taunting drops that this guy left around. I am thinking that this is gaining more of a serial killer or terrorist vibe to it. In my mind, that is what matches the general MO.
     
  16. MattR

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    I've worked as a subcontractor for Lockheed Martin, BAE, Raytheon, you name it. I challenge you sir!
     
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  17. Cascarino's Pizzeria

    Apr 29, 2001
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    I'll asks my sis next time.
     
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  18. Brilliant Oranje

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    Cops know his name

    https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-14169739/CEO-Brian-Thompson-assassin-backpack-contents.html

    New York's mayor Eric Adams also said the 'net is tightening' on his killer, telling The New York Post that officers now have a name for the suspect.

    He spoke as the search for Thompson's killer enters its fourth day but said that the authorities will not disclose the suspect's identity at this stage.

    'We don't want to release that now,' he said. 'If you do, you are basically giving a tip to the person we are seeking and we do not want to give him an upper hand at all.

    'Let him continue to believe he can hide behind the mask. We revealed his face. We're going to reveal who he is and we're going to bring him to justice.'
     
  19. Brilliant Oranje

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    I bought Raytheon stock when the Ukraine war started.
    Made good money on it :thumbsup:
     
  20. Q*bert Jones III

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    Be still my beating heart.
     
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  21. ElNaranja

    ElNaranja Member+

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    If we only saw this kind of vigor from the DoJ against Trump and the bourgeoisie the last four years.

    Poor person attacks the wealthy? Release the kraken! The wealthy attack the institutions and/or poor? It's complicated.
     
  22. Cascarino's Pizzeria

    Apr 29, 2001
    New Jersey, USA
    Not even complicated. Just BAU 'Merican style.
     
  23. Brilliant Oranje

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    Suspect in custody
     
  24. Cascarino's Pizzeria

    Apr 29, 2001
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  25. Cascarino's Pizzeria

    Apr 29, 2001
    New Jersey, USA
    Apparently these young ITies don't watch The Godfather anymore

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