Murder of United Health Care CEO

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  1. ElNaranja

    ElNaranja Member+

    Houston Dynamo
    United States
    Jul 16, 2017
    It's ripe for good storytelling. The evil CEO manipulates the System that leads to the death of our hero's family. Full of grief, he tries to get justice to no avail. After a tearful wailing under a thunderstorm at their grave, he swears of justice in favor of revenge. He trains. Plots. Buys information. Has run ins with the Underworld where he learns that revenge is far more dangerous than originally thought. He perseveres, and that triumphant day comes...and revenge extracted.

    Now those same Systems are after him. They are afraid. They use every means, legality be damned, to find him. They lie and smear but our Hero's work can't be so easily brushed aside. Other villains are now taking note and working to prevent themselves from being next, saving lives.

    I can't write music for s*** but I'd see that premise.
     
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  2. rslfanboy

    rslfanboy Member+

    Jul 24, 2007
    Section 26
    Not making an exact equivalence here (they differ wildly and I’m not enthused by the assassination route) but how many plays were made about John Brown?
     
  3. superdave

    superdave Member+

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    VB, VA
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    Do tell. With as many links, charts, and images as possible.
     
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  4. superdave

    superdave Member+

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    VB, VA
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    DC United
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    United States
    #754 superdave, Jun 15, 2025
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    Page turn.

    This really sounds like the plot of a Steven Seagall or Jason Statham movie. Or a Dolph Lundgren movie. Or maybe a story arc from the TV show Renegade.

    I can definitely write songs with lots of rhymes, as I proved at a church retreat with this underappreciated classic

    It’s the tops it’s made out of hops
    It’s beer beer beer
    It’s not gnarly it’s made out of barley
    It’s beer beer beer
    If you drink too much you get drunk
    Then you wake up and feel like a punk
    So you better be careful when you buy your
    Beer beer beer

    We had an informal talent show so I wrote this song so my ~6 year old daughter would have a talent. She sang with me. I’m a great dad. Or at least, solidly mediocre.
     
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  5. superdave

    superdave Member+

    Jul 14, 1999
    VB, VA
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    Yeah, I think the phrase “too soon” comes into play here.

    Not to mention Harpers Ferry was a precursor to the Civil War, which I’d like to remain the Civil War and not retconned as Civil War I.
     
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  6. ElNaranja

    ElNaranja Member+

    Houston Dynamo
    United States
    Jul 16, 2017
    Not going to lie, I was thinking of this movie for inspiration.



    I really enjoy it.
     
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  7. Auriaprottu

    Auriaprottu Member+

    Atlanta Damn United
    Apr 1, 2002
    The back of the bus
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    --other--
    Do you think fascists just step down?
     
  8. rslfanboy

    rslfanboy Member+

    Jul 24, 2007
    Section 26
    #758 rslfanboy, Jun 15, 2025
    Last edited: Jun 15, 2025
    Luigi was literally the trope of “Lone Wolf.”

    Brown at least tried to lead a whole movement. Maybe Luigi is a necessary precursor to a figure like John Brown, but it sure isn’t a good look.

    edit: I want to say more and add qualifiers, but I also don’t want to paint myself into a silly corner without a legit q&a, back&forth. If you or anyone want to flesh this out, cool. But I don’t want to post an internal dialogue where I get way off tangent, so I’ll show my hand/my thinking slowly. Ultimately, if the US goes full circle on the Nazi-style ethnic cleansing and fascism, where we are about 1/2way I think, then Mangione will be a bright footnote on how we clung to the “it could never happen here” trail. If it doesn’t, I still don’t think he should be exalted a hero, but I also think his crime is a calculated and complex thing to judge.
     
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  9. soccernutter

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    Near the mountains.
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    One problem - he doesn't really have a compelling personality. He's handsome, but not really charismatic, and as far as I can tell, is somewhat unlikable. It's more tragedy than hero. It reminds me how Money Monster ends, without love story or ability to inspire others.
     
  10. Auriaprottu

    Auriaprottu Member+

    Atlanta Damn United
    Apr 1, 2002
    The back of the bus
    Club:
    Atlanta
    Nat'l Team:
    --other--
    If the target had it coming, he did.
    If he didn't, he didn't. That's up to you. I don't care one way or the other about the CEO's life.
     
  11. Germerica

    Germerica Member+

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    People who think like you don’t care about a lot of lives, including those who are killed by people of their same race.
     
  12. YankHibee

    YankHibee Member+

    Mar 28, 2005
    indianapolis
    Flush this idea out for us, say what you mean.
     
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  13. luftmensch

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    May 4, 2006
    Petaluma
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    Flush instead of flesh is perfect,
     

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