Multiple World Cup winning teams - Ranking Players per Position per Team

Without wanting to de-rail the thread, if I stick to my own country for now, I can only offer a similar attempt for losing semi-finalists (and factoring in Euros as well as the World Cup) lol - although to be fair there has been one World Cup winning team, and now Euros finalists too, plus arguably there might have been teams capable of going far before 1950 (even if that team was possibly expected to do just that itself still....until it didn't!)....

Sticking to the same format as you for Germany, which I think suits the best if trying to consider all the four teams anyway (but it means putting a left CB as a LB from 2018 for example, and both in 1990 and 1996 there were some variations in system which arguably worked as well as or better than the more conventional 4-4-2 like one in certain matches):

Goalkeeper
1 Banks (1968)
2 Seaman (1996)
3 Pickford (2018)
4 Shilton (1990)

Right back
1 Trippier (2018)
2 Neville (1996)
3 Parker (1990)
4 Newton (1968)

Stopper centre back
1 D.Walker (1990)
2 Adams (1996)
3 Labone (1968)
4 K.Walker (2018)

Cultured centre back/sweeper
1 Moore (1968)
2 Wright (1990)
3 Stones (2018)
4 Southgate (1996)

Left back
1 Pearce (1990)
2 Wilson (1968)
3 Pearce (1996)
4 Maguire (2018)

Central/defensive midfield (1990 doesn't really have a DM in the first choice XI, but two CMs)
1 Platt (1990)
2 Ince (1996)
3 Henderson (2018)
4 Mullery (1968)

Right midfield/wing (2018 doesn't really have one available so Sterling or Lingard is the choice I think, since Trippier has to be RB if Young is LW)
1 Ball (1968)
2 Lingard (2018)
3 Waddle (1990)
4 Anderton (1996)
*Maybe the hardest choices here, as of course I'm basing it on form during the tournament itself primarily, otherwise I'd think Waddle and Anderton would get above Lingard and Waddle at his prime not far away from that period might challenge Ball, as opposed to just about edging Anderton very arguably I think - even based on the tournaments it's hard, especially with Lingard out of position and Ball being judged on these Euros not the World Cup of 1966 of course or his general form of the time (and I'm considering at least the Spain 'quarter-final' games but didn't see them in full yet)

Central/attacking midfield/playmaker
1 Charlton (1968)
2 Gascoigne (1990)
3 Gascoigne (1996)
4 Alli (2018)
* I think actually this must be a close call between 1 and 2 at least, but I thought when in doubt (and with a relatively small sample of games for one player) err towards the better player in general (although Gascoigne on his day could be top class and showed significant glimpses of that over the 1990 WC, as probably England's number 1 star player of the tournament)
** Maybe it's even close between 1 and 3, but I'm thinking Charlton was significant/crucial vs Spain at least, while Gascoigne was a little variable even if very good for example vs the Netherlands and vs Germany I'd say and with a great goal vs Scotland, so I'm possibly more settled on Charlton being at least number 2

Left midfield/wing/wing-back
1 Peters (1968)
2 McManaman (1996)
3 Barnes (1990)
4 Young (2018)
* Arguable between 1 and 2 I'd think potentially
** Also arguable between 3 and 4 surely, and Barnes might be getting the benefit of the doubt based on his capabilities displayed at club level

Support striker
1 Sheringham (1996)
2 Hunt (1968)
3 Sterling (2018)
4 Beardsley (1990)

Striker
1 Lineker (1990)
2 Shearer (1996)
3 Kane (2018)
4 Hurst (1968)


So that would make it this points wise:
1) England 1968 (31 points)
2) England 1990 (30 points)
3) England 1996 (28 points)
4) England 2018 (21 points)

I think potentially the 1990 side could have been good enough to be top with this method if all players were on top form (but just as with Beckenbauer, Muller etc, Moore and Charlton for example wouldn't be getting bonus points as all-time greats or something, so that would be a factor - 4 is the maximum). While I think the 1996 team played the best football during the tournament overall probably.

 

1998

Barthez - Thuram, Blanc, Desailly, Lizarazu - Karembeu, Deschamps, Petit - Djorkaeff, Zidane - Guivarc'h.

2018

Lloris - Pavard, Varane, Umtiti, Hernandez - Pogba, Kanté, Matuidi - Mbappé, Griezmann - Giroud.

The balance was slightly different in both teams (Blanc behind Karembeu and Deschamps... Varane, less attacking behind free-electron Pogba and Kanté who played quite a restricted role anyway... well... Djorkaeff could be more midfielder than Mbappé, Giroud dropped back more than Guivarc'h, although Guivarc'h sacrified himself upfront too... well. Well, Karembeu was quite a free electron too...).

Mix

Barthez - Thuram, Blanc, Desailly, Lizarazu - Pogba, Kanté, Petit - Djorkaeff/ Griezmann, Zidane - Mbappé.

Cheating a bit with Mbappé at CF and can only have a tie between Djorkaeff (who probably had a better tournament than Zidane but for his part was a bit washed out in the final... he has a ck assist tho iirc). Otherwise, the CF spot maybe goes to Giroud and the RW/RAM thing to Mbappé, leaving out Djorkaeff/ Griezmann... nah. Yeah, Griezmann was more on the left + centre... well.

As a "pure DM", captain and coach Deschamps could be in, instead of either Kanté or Pogba (displacing Kanté on the right in the latter case). But let's have him just on the bench, as assistant-coach of his mentor Jacquet.

Petit was very, very good in '98 but Matuidi was super important in a similar position in 2018.

In 2018, Varane performed at a very high level, was at his best. Umtiti was better than his usual own self, was at his best and was the scorer of that goal that would be decisive, in the semi-finals.
Pavard & Hernandez did wonders offensively, one assisting the other even, iirc. I kept Thuram & Lizarazu for they were perhaps more balanced but it was not the same team balance exactly and they were less exposed, in theory, in general, I tend to believe. Pavard has defensive mistakes regularly but Thuram had some as well in '98. He had wings on his back... for the greater good. Pavard too, against Argentina.

Until that gift to the Croatians (without consequences), Lloris had a perfect tournament and is more spectacular than it seems. But Barthez has that special touch...

Djorkaeff started to be a bit old and Griezmann was a bit tired, but still, that's them who carried the team offensively.

Meanwhile the super-stars Zidane and Mbappé seem... untouchable. They were decisive when it mattered the most. In several occasions as for Mbappé (especially, but not only : against Peru, Argentina and in the final as well).

Objectively, it's rather equal.

Could say the same between the 1984 and 2000 Euro teams btw (who played better). Plenty of similarities as well (not only the vertical red stripe on the chest). Then, obviously, the only thing that can't be compared to anything else is Platini and his 9 goals.
Domergue who scores twice in the semi-finals, like Thuram in '98 too. On his birthday, Domergue.

 

Italy A

---------------------Buffon
Zambrotta-Scirea-Cannavaro-Grosso
----Tardelli----Pirlo----Ferrari
----------------Conti----
-------------Rossi---Piola ...

 

Interesting that you find the teams rather equal on balance, but it would be 7 places to 1998 and 4 to 2018 (or in points as per Gregoriak's system 18-15! - but it works better with four teams rather than two I think), although I suppose it's also possible (especially if trying to use the system of Gregoriak and me) to choose the same players, but compare Zidane to Matuidi, Djorkaeff to Griezmann, and Karembeu to Mbappe...and then selecting Greizmann would make it very close at 6-5 to 1998 in inclusions (or 17-16 in points).

I think for 1984/2000 my opinion would probably be Bats; Thuram, Blanc, Desailly, Lizarazu; Tigana, Vieira; Platini, Zidane; Djorkaeff, Henry (considering the 'problems' of Amoros - for this tournament Domergue would indeed surely be the left side option I think and Battiston the right side one wouldn't they, and maybe it's even close vs Thuram and Lizarazu based on the tournament alone for those positions; also considering Pires not to have played enough minutes to be considered a starting XI player...but anyway it's difficult maybe to adjust the system and put him in, even though based on how he finished the tournament maybe I would think of doing so for an 'ideal XI' from the players of both squads). Maybe Bossis vs Desailly would be close here? But Blanc-Desailly might still be seen as the better combination for a combined team anyway I guess. Giresse was maybe still worth considering but again if comparing magic square system to magic square system (though in 2000 it was not definitively this kind of system throughout the tournament) he'd be up against Zidane...unless Zidane would be up against Platini for one place but that seems a bit ridiculous in some ways lol! Djorkaeff might not be placed in that slot in a Euro 2000 XI (instead it would be Anelka or Dugarry or Wiltord maybe, but maybe one of those would make a combined XI just about for me anyway).

So funnily I have chosen several more Euro 2000 players (only Bats, Tigana and Platini from 1984), but I do see it as much closer than that too in terms of comparing the teams as a whole I think!

 

Out of curiosity (and since I mixed England World Cup and Euros teams already) I'll try a French one for World Cup and Euros winning teams, as per Gregoriak's original post (except using 4-2-2-2 - and indeed therefore putting Platini and Zidane in the same category as left AM!)....

Goalkeeper
1 Bats (1984)
2 Barthez (1998)
3 Barthez (2000)
4 Lloris (2018)

Right back
1 Thuram (1998)
2 Thuram (2000)
3 Pavard (2018)
4 Battiston (1984)

Cultured centre back/sweeper
1 Blanc (1998)
2 Blanc (2000)
3 Varane (2018)
4 Bossis (1984)

Stopper centre back
1 Desailly (1998)
2 Desailly (2000)
3 Umtiti (2018)
4 Le Roux (1984)

Left back
1 Lizarazu (1998)
2 Lizarazu (2000)
3 Domergue (1984)
4 Hernandez (2018)

Right CM/DM
1 Tigana (1984)
2 Pogba (2018)
3 Deschamps (1998)
4 Deschamps (2000)

Left CM/DM
1 Kante (2018)
2 Vieira (2000)
3 Petit (1998)
4 Fernandez (1984)

Right AM (bit of a stretch to put Karembeu here rather than Djorkaeff for 1998 but Djorkaeff has to be the 2nd forward I think surely; meanwhile arguably Mbappe played more as a forward and Griezmann more as an AM but in terms of playing right sided primarily vs playing from a central role I went this way)
1 Mbappe (2018)
2 Giresse (1984)
3 Djorkaeff (2000)
4 Karembeu (1998)

Left AM
1 Platini (1984)
2 Zidane (2000)
3 Zidane (1998)
4 Matuidi (2018)

Right forward
1 Djorkaeff (1998)
2 Wiltord (2000)
3 Lacombe (1984)
4 Giroud (2018)

Left forward
1 Henry (2000)
2 Griezmann (2018)
3 Bellone (1984)
4 Gui'varch (1998)


Total points therefore....
1) France 1998 (31 points)
2) France 2000 (30 points)
3) France 1984 (25 points)
4) France 2018 (24 points)