Mueller versus Villa for MVP. Am i missing anyone else? [R for potentially any WC game]

Re: Mueller versus Villa for MVP. Am i missing anyone else?

The MVP usually goes to a player from the winning team or at least, the finalist. Let's wait until after the QF.

 

Re: Mueller versus Villa for MVP. Am i missing anyone else?

It's too early. And, it's not simply about goals and assists.

 

Re: Mueller versus Villa for MVP. Am i missing anyone else?

I would say that Gonzalo Higuain could be considered. Now he can match Villa with 4 goals but he doesn't have any assist, yet.

 

Re: Mueller versus Villa for MVP. Am i missing anyone else?

Mueller is a huge surprise and the find of the WC. His goals were great, but his assists were even better! Villa is the only marque player that had lived up to expectations to be honest. That guy is amazing!

 

Re: Mueller versus Villa for MVP. Am i missing anyone else?

Yea like statistics matter the most, Messi has been performing better than higuain for Argentina and basically created most of his goals, but neither of them should be considered for MVP.


Its a bit early to tell too but Villa is certainly a very strong candidate and so is Mueller , Ozil has some very important performances behind him aswell.

 

Re: Mueller versus Villa for MVP. Am i missing anyone else?

Let's not forget fullbacks who are really good this year. My favorite pick would be Maicon and Lahm who are really everywhere on the field.

Very dissapointing mid so far only Ozil is living up to the expactations.
It's definately early, most of the players mentioned has not have a single tough opponent.

 

Re: Mueller versus Villa for MVP. Am i missing anyone else?

Statistics don't matter. Messi is the MVP of the tournament so far with Villa a close 2nd. If Messi/Higuain/Tevez had 60 minutes to play against a ten man Aussie team, using an u-10 quality offside trap, who knows how many goals they could have scored. But it's all irrelevant. The MVP of the tournament will come from one of the two finalists.

 

Re: Mueller versus Villa for MVP. Am i missing anyone else?

lol, messi

 

Re: Mueller versus Villa for MVP. Am i missing anyone else?

It is too early to say but at the moment, I think Oezil has been the most impressive. If the decision was made now I would expect Villa to win it though. To win it, you've really got to reach the final or be the top scorer and reach the semis so anything can happen.

For me Messi has been good but not great. He was ineffective against both Greece and Mexico until they had to chase the game and then gave him more space. That's more a credit to the marking jobs on him than a slight on him, however.

 

Re: Mueller versus Villa for MVP. Am i missing anyone else?

The favorite right now is Lucio IMO. After that it's roughly a tie b/w Messi, Villa, Mueller, Suarez and Robben.

Nobody is standing out enough to the point where they can win MVP unless their country wins the trophy though.

 

Re: Mueller versus Villa for MVP. Am i missing anyone else?

Brasil looks the best team so far. And it all starts at the back with them. Lucio has been great so far and there is nobody up front who has really stood out. Maybe Ramires but he's suspended now for their big QF match so that will probably kill off his chances. And it would be unfair to give an attacker for Brasil the MVP considering the team's balance (like Italy 2006).

If Holland wins the WC, I see Robben getting the MVP (big "if" granted). They weren't playing that well until he came back. Now they are at least 2 gears higher. Van Persie has been average-to-poor and there's no Dutch defender who would stand a chance. It would be b/w Robben and Sneijder but Robben will stand out more should Holland win I think.

 

Re: Mueller versus Villa for MVP. Am i missing anyone else?

I love Messi but his performances have been criminally overrated. He's been good but not great as someone mentioned. Oezil, Muller, Villa and Forlan have had better WC's IMO.

Oezil and Villa lead the way but like Escape goat said, the MVP is given to someone from either team of the finals. So we'll have to wait and see, but my vote goes to Oezil thus far.

 

For each of the quarterfinalists:

Uruguay - Perez
Ghana - Gyan
Netherlands - Sneijder
Brazil - Maicon
Argentina - Messi
Germany - Oezil
Paraguay - Vera
Spain - Villa

 

For the Netherlands it's not Sneijder or Robben, it's actually van Bommel.

But even van Bommel is not close to some of the other names mentioned. My pick would be one of Maicon, Villa or Mueller.

 

Mueller will not be MVP of the tournament. What he is very likely to win is the award for best young player.

The MVPs of the tournament have been Villa and Oezil. They have been tremendous--and versus better opposition than Messi has seen. I love Messi as a player, but his cheering section have become a little tiresome. He's been a far cry from Maradona in '86.

 

The usual suspects:
1- Messi (or Higuain's tap in goals?)
2- Villa
3- Sneijder or Robben (depend on next 2 big games)
4- Fabiano or Maicon
5- Ozil (or Klose if advanced and gets few more goals)

Other potential candidates: Ozil, Lucio, Robinho, Tevez, Bommel, Xabi Alonso ....

 

If that's your standard then FIFA won't be handing out a Golden Ball award at this world cup.

I think what hurts Messi is the high expectations from the fans & media. We all know what he can do. If any other player in this world cup put in the 4 performances he gave thus far they would unanimously be considered the front runner for the Golden Ball. But since it's Messi, it's just considered a standard performance from him. Everybody expects Messi to score 2 or 3 goals a game now and when he doesn't it's considered an average or poor performance. But an average performance from Messi is better than a great performance by 99% of the players in the world.