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Discussion in 'TV, Satellite & Radio' started by AndyMead, Dec 29, 2005.
Cool, thanks for the link. I didn't realize that the Super Bowl beat out the Champion's League final. Its also interesting that, if FIFA's estimates were correct, over 3 times the amount of people that watched the Super Bowl watched the World Cup draw.....an event in which not a single minute of actual sports was played.
Don't worry, I'm sure come HyperBowl time, all the talk will be of a billion people watching as they normally predict. Great to finally see a number on the worldwide audience though. 1.86m. Seems a bit high?
Never heard of the HyperBowl. What is it?
Can you show me where they predict this? They say there is a "potential audience of 1 billion," but that's a lot different than your implication that they lie about their viewership.
Im sure the NFL or ABC doesn't claim the 1 billion number, but I have seen some media outlets mistakenly refer to that number not as potential viewership but actual.....or in the very least "forget" to include the "potential" qualifier. But I've never seen it as an official statement by those actually involved in the production or broadcast of the game.
I'm just pointing out that talk of this **potential** audience is a very sneaky and unnecessary (and sad) way of hyping the over-hyped HyperBowl even more don't you think?
It's delibrately mis-leading and really there's no need for it.
No smilies in your post so I'll assume your question was genuine. Dangerous, I know.
He was referring to the Super Bowl.
Do you mean Super Bowl when you use the pejorative Hyper Bowl?
If so, you realize the usage of pejoratives damages any case you're trying to make. You're posts are instantly colored as being from someone with an unobjective agenda.
Really? Why's that then? This is a footy message board isn't it? Why would anyone give a toss if someone knocks gridiron?
Because, at least in the United States, most "footy" fans are also fans of other sports. While soccer/football/calcio/futbol/futebol may be religion in the rest of the world, most American sports fans are fans of multiple sports.
It's possible to enjoy soccer and American football. Personally, I don't really care that much for the NFL or college football. But I also respect the fact that most of my friends and the folks that I interact with do.
And if I start a comment with "gridball" or some other pejorative, they're going to tune out the rest of what I say.
You are not "preaching to the choir" here. If you're just "having a toss", you're in the wrong place.
So America is a humourless society then after all. Thanks for the heads up.
PS You might want to find out what a toss actually is before you acuse someone of having one...
Exactly where have I called it "humorless", or if you prefer "humourless?"
Will do. Thanks.
Yeah, because this is nothing anyone associated with soccer would ever do.
You start with a pretty funny gag (ie calling American football "gridball") and your listeners tune out? That's a humourless society, my friend.
Fair point. All these worldwide audience claims are ludicrous.
BUT to me to suggest that 9/10 of a viewing audience is made up of people from overseas who don't even play the game is the more ludicrous of the claims. And we all know what the NFL is trying to imply by such an absurd statement don't we?
They don't say that's the viewing audience. They say that's the potential viewing audience. So does plenty of other events. And it's no more absurd than FIFA counting me 30 or 40 times over the course of a World Cup.
Try as you might to spin football alone in such negative terms, you can't do it. And your inability to recognize the Super Bowl as a huge event - regardless of the breakdown of those viewers - is as ignorant and elitist as people in the states who dismiss soccer.
It's not "humourless", it's an insult.
It's like someone who wants to give you advice on your daughter saying, "That 11 year old slut of yours could stand to bathe more often."
Gridball isn't funny. It's stale. Like calling baseball "boreball" and "Mutant League Soccer" and "cRapids" and "F*C* Dallas" and all the rest. Enough already. No one's being clever.
And it is okay to like other sports, too. Really, it is.
Can you find a single example of the NFL itself, or any of its official broadcasting partners, claiming that 1 billion watched the Super Bowl in any given year?? Please?? I would really love to see that. It's never the official statement....its usually a secondary media outlet misreporting the statistic. The NFL is not "trying to imply" anything.
Only 73 million of telespectators for MILAN-LIVERPOOL!!!!
It is simply ridicolous.Only in Italy they were over 15 million and only in China about 400 million!!!!
Population of Italy: 58,103,333
15 million means 25% of the country was watching the game
Population of China: 1,306,313,812
400 million means 30% of the country was watching the game, and considering a far lower percentage of the population in China has a TV than that of Italy.
Do you have a link showing these numbers?
To shamelessly steal a phrase from another Chicago (well, I *think* he's still in Chicago) broadcaster, "THAT'S WHY HE'S HERE!"
Yeah, the NFL doesn't have to imply anything. They are just a very successful business that has no need to make up numbers for the amount of people that watch their games. Now MLS on the other hand, they use some dodgy numbers to make their product look better.
What dodgy numbers? Link?