Most talented players never to play in the 'top flight'?

Discussion in 'Soccer History' started by schafer, Aug 28, 2006.

  1. schafer

    schafer Member+

    Mar 12, 2004
    Kind of an odd topic, I know. But I just thought it would be interesting to hear about any tremendously talented players that could have made it at the highest level but for whatever reason (loyalty, lack of professionalism) played their entire careers in the lower divisions.
     
  2. nach0king

    nach0king Member

    Jul 6, 2004
    Dallas Proper
    Club:
    FC Dallas
    Nat'l Team:
    Scotland
    Did Steve Bull ever play top-flight in England? He was apparently a good English centre-forward who was for years at perennial "underachievers" Wolves.
     
  3. Excape Goat

    Excape Goat Member+

    Mar 18, 1999
    Club:
    Real Madrid
    Tab Ramos never played in the top flight while in Europe.
     
  4. deejay

    deejay Member+

    Feb 14, 2000
    Tarpon Springs, FL
    Club:
    Jorge Wilstermann
    Nat'l Team:
    Bolivia
    What do you mean by top flight? In the most technical sense. Pele, Garrincha and score of other Brazilian players never played in a national-level league. Of course, the argument could be made that in those years Sao Paolo and Rio were as good as the top leagues.
     
  5. dor02

    dor02 Member

    Aug 9, 2004
    Melbourne
    Club:
    UC Sampdoria
    Nat'l Team:
    Italy
    I don't think that Pele and Garrincha belong here. The Carioca and Paulista were at a similar standard to a First Division. If Brazil had a national leagu at the time, their clubs would be near the top.
     
  6. The Old Lady Hertha

    The Old Lady Hertha New Member

    Dec 15, 2004
    Boston, MA
    Club:
    Hertha BSC Berlin
    Nat'l Team:
    China PR
    Just a question, but wouldn't more professionalism make a player more likely to stay with a team?
     
  7. spoonman

    spoonman Member

    Sep 6, 2005
    Nat'l Team:
    Netherlands
    There was a Dutch player a few years ago (I think his name was Folkert Velten) who refused to play on sunday because of his religion.

    It wasn't possible to not play on sunday in the Eredivisie so he stayed in the first division but he was not really great.
     
  8. hasselbrad

    hasselbrad Member

    Jul 25, 2006
    Sugar Hill, GA
    Club:
    Atlanta
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    That guy Robin Something-or-other who played for Reading in the early 1980s. I read that he was just brilliant, but was such a mess because of booze and drugs, that he stayed one level down. He painted his room black so it wouldn't be so scary when he was on acid.
    He's dead now.
     
  9. glennaldo_sf

    glennaldo_sf Member+

    Houston Dynamo, Penang FC, Al Duhail
    United States
    Nov 25, 2004
    Doha, Qatar
    Club:
    FL Fart Vang Hedmark
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    Didn't Pele play for the New York Cosmos though. ;) :D
     
  10. Barcelonabased

    Barcelonabased New Member

    Sep 21, 2006
    aaron Wilbraham
     
  11. lanman

    lanman BigSoccer Supporter

    Aug 30, 2002
  12. macaluca

    macaluca Member+

    Nov 24, 2005
    Park bench
  13. RoyOfTheRovers

    Jul 24, 2009
    Club:
    Newcastle United FC
    Nat'l Team:
    England
  14. guado

    guado Member+

    Jun 30, 2004
    ocotengo miedo
    Club:
    Inverness Caledonian Thistle
    Nat'l Team:
    Indonesia
  15. Maruti

    Maruti New Member

    May 14, 2006
    Kalusha Bwalya of Zambia. He did play for PSV at the time of Romario, but he never really moved up from there.

    There are two vids of Bwalya on the net - his hattrick aganst Italy in the 1988 Olympics and his unbelevable miss in the Mexican league.

    I can assure you the first is more of what he normaly did.
     
  16. glennaldo_sf

    glennaldo_sf Member+

    Houston Dynamo, Penang FC, Al Duhail
    United States
    Nov 25, 2004
    Doha, Qatar
    Club:
    FL Fart Vang Hedmark
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    huh? He played for a handful of top flight teams including Cercle Brugge, PSV, America, Al Wahda, etc...... how does he belong here? I guess he was a forgotten great but isn't this thread meant for players who only played in the lower divisions?
     
  17. Maruti

    Maruti New Member

    May 14, 2006
    my bad then.

    I guess the closest I can think of is Nii Odartey Lamptey., but he also started big (PSV, Aston Villa) only to spiral out into obscure low-league clubs.
     
  18. RoyOfTheRovers

    Jul 24, 2009
    Club:
    Newcastle United FC
    Nat'l Team:
    England
    [Top flight, in British "footie-speak" (for lack of a better term) simply means the 1st Div/Prem. Lge. lvl. in any given pro lge.]
     

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