PBP: Most Overrated Country in World Football and why?

Discussion in 'BigSoccer Polls' started by Idolg1982, Apr 12, 2011.

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Most Overrated Country

Poll closed Apr 6, 2012.
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  2. England

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  3. USA

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  4. Mexico

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  5. Turkey

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  6. Portugal

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  7. Ireland

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  8. Greece

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  9. Italy

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  10. Other

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  1. BarraUru

    BarraUru Member

    Apr 18, 2011
    Montevideo
    Club:
    CA Peñarol
    Nat'l Team:
    Uruguay
    3º world? Haha really? There is only 2 % poverty in my country (less than the US), there is a 99 % literacy rate (higher than the US), more security than the US, the best country to live in LatinAmerica, highest PBI per capita in South America, one of the safest and greenist countries in the world, etc etc.. I'm sure you don't even know the capital of Uruguay but yeah, that's normal, I mean, Americans don't have a clue about anything (sorry, but it's true)


    If we were a 3º world country (which we aren't, 3º world are Bolivia, Somalia, etc) then Americans and Euros wouldn't be moving to Uruguay



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    :rolleyes:
     
  2. USOutlaw16

    USOutlaw16 Member+

    Green Bay Voyageurs
    United States
    Jan 22, 2011
    On the Gringo Wall of Shame
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    You know what they say, the smaller the house, the easier it is to keep clean (the USA's population is 100x that of Uruguay's, so those percentage arguments are a bit misleading) :rolleyes:

    Oh, and Montevideo, that's the capital of Uruguay
     
  3. Lusankya

    Lusankya Moderator
    Staff Member

    Nov 14, 2007
    Nat'l Team:
    Germany
    How about you guys continue this interesting "discussion" in the World Rivalries forum?
     
  4. Iaquinta

    Iaquinta Member

    Jan 8, 2007
    Club:
    AS Roma
    Nat'l Team:
    Italy
    Ci vuole poco ;)
     
  5. DynamoEAR

    DynamoEAR Member+

    May 30, 2011
    HoustAtlantaDMV
    Club:
    Houston Dynamo
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    Montevideo. :)
     
  6. Auriaprottu

    Auriaprottu Member+

    Atlanta Damn United
    Apr 1, 2002
    The back of the bus
    Club:
    Atlanta
    Nat'l Team:
    --other--
    Precious! Talk about Brit fanboys...

    I know I'm a big Brasil fan, but dude, you sound like you sing "God Save The Queen" before Mom tucks you in at night.
     
  7. Pipiolo

    Pipiolo Member+

    Jul 19, 2008
    Nat'l Team:
    Argentina
    The Home Championships was a shit tournament played, mostly won by Scotland...the same Scotland that has never seen the light of a second round match at the WC.

    I have won countless tournaments at my local park, I guess I am better than Maradona :rolleyes:


    He has good taste ;)

    Uruguay is already a better football country than England. The USA will remain a second-rate footballing nation as long as they look up to England.

    Schiaffino > either one of them
     
  8. lajake

    lajake Member

    Dec 29, 2011
    So Cal
    Club:
    Los Angeles Galaxy
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    England and Scotland have been playing the game longer than your country has been around. Me as an American will support England or any British country for that manner. Your best player I wonder what league he plays for. If you read my post I give Uruguay its proper respect for 08 and Cops America. To say you're a better football nation than England is crazy. In 06 you lost to Australia. You were not even in the World Cup. If you look at the last 6 world cups you have finished better than England once. England advances to the knock out stages the last 4 world cups. Do not even began to compare Cops America to the European championships. S.A has what 6 decent sides. There are sides left out of the Euro that would at least make it to the semi finals in Cops America maybe even win the whole thing.
     
  9. leszek-antonio

    Mar 16, 2008
    Toronto, Canada
    Club:
    FC Barcelona
    Nat'l Team:
    Poland
    I have to agree with the American. Uruguay cannot be compared to England (as much as the Three Lions are over-rated in comparison to Spain, Germany, etc) Uruguay has a good team, but having three very good players in Cavani, Suarez and Forlan all preety much in the same position doesn't do the team justice. The rest of its players are very average and apart from strong (sometimes borderline brutal) defense, they don't have too much more to offer. 4th place in the World Cup in 2010 was a little bit over the top. There were better teams that year that didn't finish 4th, example, Brazil, Argentina, even England. However, it was nice to see Uruguay win the CA in 2011, that team deserved it, becasue it has a few really good players.
     
  10. Pipiolo

    Pipiolo Member+

    Jul 19, 2008
    Nat'l Team:
    Argentina
    The Euros are a stronger competition than the Copa America, but without a doubt the Conmebol qualifiers are much tougher than the European ones, which gives England a chance to build a more extensive WC record than Uruguay. Anyways, next WC, Uruguay first has to make it, but if/once they do, I have no doubts they will advance far deeper than England. Matter of fact, I am half-expecting England to bomb out in Brazil.

    PS: Of course you will always root for England, the USA has the same scrappy and forgettable style of play after all. You will never match the skill of the great Latin sides.

    Uruguay would have beaten England at the last WC, they won the Copa America, which is not as strong as the Euro, but England may well exit early in the competition...we'll see this summer. Winning the Copa America may not be the same level as winning the Euro , but for sure it's > than a group or quarterfinal exit (which is where I'm expecting England to bow out this summer).
     
  11. leszek-antonio

    Mar 16, 2008
    Toronto, Canada
    Club:
    FC Barcelona
    Nat'l Team:
    Poland
    If England played Uruguay at WC 10 it would have been very interesting. In fact I am a little dissapointed that they didn't play England or Argentina or Brazil in the 2nd Round/ or QF. Instead they beat Korea and Ghana (not top level teams). I always want that a team making the semi-finals in a WC beats at least one top level team along the way. Urugway didn't do that. Same like Turkey in 2002 (they beat Japan and Senegal enroute to the semi-finals). Look at Bulgaria 1994 (they beat Germany in QF). Hence I will argue they had a stronger squad than Uruguay in 2010 or Turkey in 2002.
     
  12. EruditeHobo

    EruditeHobo Member+

    Mar 29, 2007
    San Francisco, CA
    Club:
    Liverpool FC
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    Not to mention that if the England game is called correctly the outcome might have been different in the end. 2-2 at halftime is a much different game going forward. But the refs ********ed that up.
     
  13. chewie4917

    chewie4917 Member

    Sep 10, 2011
    Valid point. Bulgaria that year also defeated Argentina 2-0 in the first round and Mexico on penalties in the second round (Mexico, one could say, was playing 'almost at home').
     
  14. BocaFan

    BocaFan Member+

    Aug 18, 2003
    Brooklyn, NY
    Sorry, but Czech Republic, Russia and Sweden aren't anywhere near as good as Argentina, Brazil, Uruguay and Chile. I doubt you can even name 2 players on those Euro teams.

    And those are qualified teams for Euro 2012 (1 even favored to win their Euro group)
     
  15. lajake

    lajake Member

    Dec 29, 2011
    So Cal
    Club:
    Los Angeles Galaxy
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    Czech Republic is a very strong side.
     
  16. Pipiolo

    Pipiolo Member+

    Jul 19, 2008
    Nat'l Team:
    Argentina
    Only at the Euros, they suck at the WC when they do make it. At least since the sixties.
     
  17. lajake

    lajake Member

    Dec 29, 2011
    So Cal
    Club:
    Los Angeles Galaxy
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    If Milan Barros played and Jan Koller was not injured do you really think they would of went out so early.
    Bringing up sides like Greece, Russia, Czech Republic and Sweeden just strengthens the argument that UEFA is so much better than S.A. Chile is a nice side but they would not be in the Top 10 UEFA sides.
     
  18. Pipiolo

    Pipiolo Member+

    Jul 19, 2008
    Nat'l Team:
    Argentina
    Greece, Russia and Czech Republic are nothing more than decent sides, they would have NO chance of winning Copa America.
     
  19. lajake

    lajake Member

    Dec 29, 2011
    So Cal
    Club:
    Los Angeles Galaxy
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    If they won the European championship I believe they could win C. America.
     
  20. BocaFan

    BocaFan Member+

    Aug 18, 2003
    Brooklyn, NY
    This argument is a non-starter because UEFA has over 50 members. Being #4 in South America is equivalent to being #20 in UEFA.

    Anyway, Czech Republic are not a strong side. They were amazing 8 years ago, but suck right now. Could this team make the semis of the Copa America? Sure. Would they? Most likely not.

    Only 3 UEFA teams outperformed Brazil and Argentina in the last World Cup. What makes you think 16 + some non-qualified UEFA teams would all outperform them if they hypothetically took part in Copa America?
     
  21. lajake

    lajake Member

    Dec 29, 2011
    So Cal
    Club:
    Los Angeles Galaxy
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    7/8 of the last semi finalist have came from UEFA.
     
  22. BocaFan

    BocaFan Member+

    Aug 18, 2003
    Brooklyn, NY
    Again that's partly down to having 5 times as many members.

    Also, that does not mean teams like Bosnia, Turkey, Montenegro and Estonia (ie the 4 UEFA teams that came closest to qualifying for Euro 2012) would most likely reach the semis of Copa America. It just means teams like Germany, Spain and Holland would probably have a good shot at winning the Copa.
     
  23. BarraUru

    BarraUru Member

    Apr 18, 2011
    Montevideo
    Club:
    CA Peñarol
    Nat'l Team:
    Uruguay
    Lajake stop talking about if's


    IF England had played against Uruguay in the WC..
    IF those euro countries win the euro they could win the Copa America


    Europe has always been


    1)Germany-Netherlands-Italy
    2)England-Spain-France-Portugal-England

    The rest don't exist..

    Same with South America

    1)Brazil-Argentina-Uruguay
    2)Colombia-Chile-Paraguay-Peru-Ecuador




    The rest suck
     
  24. snahdog

    snahdog Member

    Mar 31, 2006
    Atlanta
    I agree with the classification, but the 2) level from Europe is not that same as the 2) level from South America. England, Spain, and France have all won world cups, not a single one of the South American 2) teams ever did. In fact, none of them have ever made it to the final and only Chile ever made it to the 3rd place game. On the other hand, there are at least 9 European countries (though some of them have since been split up) which you claim "don't exist" that have made it to the third place game. 3 of them even made it to the final. So, by your own logic, if those countries "don't exist", then the South American teams outside of Brazil-Argentina-Uruguay don't exist either.
     
  25. BocaFan

    BocaFan Member+

    Aug 18, 2003
    Brooklyn, NY
    Another flawed argument because UEFA has more than 5 times as many members as CONMEBOL. At the very least you have to look at things in terms of percentages (e.g. # of semifinals reached by CONMEBOL's 2nd tier divided by # of WC finals they've taken part in). '

    Yeah I know its more work, but if you want to convince anyone over the age of 12, that's how it's gotta be done.
     

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