More Iraq-WMD-Terrorism links for the lefties to deny

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  1. Ian McCracken

    Ian McCracken Member

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    Jordan: Jaiousi admits meeting with Zarqawi in Baghdad, receiving instructions for attacks

    Amman - The main defendant in the case of nine men standing trial for plotting the first chemical attack in the Kingdom, on Wednesday said he met with Abu Mussab Zarqawi in Baghdad to prepare for the alleged attacks.

    In a videotape confession screened during the trial at the State Security Court (SSC) yesterday, Azmi Jaiousi said he met with Zarqawi and two other men in Iraq. "Zarqawi told me there would be military operations in Jordan soon and we needed to prepare for them... he gave me around $50,000, weapons, explosive devices and instructions to launch attacks. Our first target was State Prosecutor Mahmoud Obeidat," Jaiousi was quoted as saying in the videotape.

    A second target was a General Intelligence Department (GID) officer who had blue eyes and a white Mercedes, he added. Jaiousi said he infiltrated into the Kingdom from Iraq in February 2002, hidden in a truck, and later met up with the rest of the defendants. Jaiousi also reenacted how he bought chemical substances, electric and electronic equipment and lab devices from shops in the downtown area.
     
  2. speedcake

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    Where does it mention Saddam and his cronies were putting up the 50k? Where does it say Saddam and his cronies had any clue Zarqawi was in Baghdad? Or that if they did know, they gave a sh!t or in any other way were involved?

    Didn't see any mention of it when I read the article. Hmm...
     
  3. skipshady

    skipshady New Member

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    That's great, but Bush has always made de facto links between Saddam and 9/11 to drum up support for war.
     
  4. Revolt

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    Well this is a fine state of affairs you've got us into, Ollie.

    How do you like this logical syllogism:

    Cowboy Dubya rides into Iraq to save us from the supposed Saddam WMD thread.
    In reality, there was no WMD threat under Saddam.

    Post-Saddam, we have a WMD threat.
     
  5. topcatcole

    topcatcole BigSoccer Supporter

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    I love this part:

    '"The four decided to tie up the owners of the liquor stores, threaten them with their weapons and destroy their shops," the charge sheet said. On Jan. 2, the four men approached two liquor stores in the capital but could not attack them because of the presence of security patrols in the area, according to the charge sheet. On their third visit to a liquor store, the charge sheet added, the four men were arrested by a security patrol unit that became suspicious of their motives.'
     
  6. Dan Loney

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    Boy, thank God we removed Saddam, so Zarqawi has no support or base anymore.

    "More" links. This one so conclusive, Bush didn't even bring it up during a speech designed to shore up support for the war. I'll file this alongside the Bekaa Valley revelations.
     
  7. Ian McCracken

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    Ha, ha, ha, the libs once again demonstrate their inability to put two and two together. Now, they have moved the goalposts to "okay, Zarqawi was in Baghdad before the Iraq War, but where is the proof that Saddam knew or condoned of his actions". You guys are getting ridiculous, seriously. You probably still think OJ was "not guilty".
     
  8. Chicago1871

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    The September 11th hijackers did a lot of planning in the US. They took flying lessons in the US.

    This just in: US has ties to 9-11 hijackers!
     
  9. verybdog

    verybdog New Member

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    LOL

    McCracken is desperate.
     
  10. skipshady

    skipshady New Member

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    You misspelled "I".
     
  11. Dante

    Dante Moderator
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    Wasn't Zarqawi hiding up north, you know in the no-fly zone. You know the area we "protected". So in essence we were protecting him.

    Sorry Ian, but you are streeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeetching with this one and you look silly doing so.
     
  12. Dan Loney

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    Say, would this be the same Zarqawi that George Bush had the chance to strike against back in 2002, but refused in order to pump up support for the Iraq invasion?

    EDIT - Dante beat me to it, damn blast and thunder. Instead, here's some light music.

    "Yesterday....all my troubles seemed so far away....now if looks as though they're here to stay....oh, I believe....in yesterday"
     
  13. Ian McCracken

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    Uhh, no, read the article. He was in Baghdad. Before the Iraq War.

    Amman - The main defendant in the case of nine men standing trial for plotting the first chemical attack in the Kingdom, on Wednesday said he met with Abu Mussab Zarqawi in Baghdad to prepare for the alleged attacks.

    Jaiousi said he infiltrated into the Kingdom from Iraq in February 2002...
     
  14. speedcake

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    Are you seriously unaware of how rediculous you are making yourself seem here?

    Even ITN has made better arguments than this lately.
     
  15. Attacking Minded

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  16. Chicago1871

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    And he's been his usual self of late, so that's saying a whole lot.
     
  17. Dammit!

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    Didn't all but one Democratic Senator agree back in late '02 that Saddam supported terrorists? (ok, that wasn't the exact wording, but something to that effect)

    And isn't that why Clinton was lobbing missiles into the desert and/or "WMD" manufacturing plants in Iraq back in 98 or 99?

    My memory is fading so correct me if I'm wrong.
     
  18. Dammit!

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    Hate to bump my own comment, but I'm wondering what the "lefts" take on the above is.

    Or, is it just "there's no connection between Iraq and 9-11"? "We admit there were ties to terrorism"?

    And, someone wake me up if the world ends when O'connor resigns. :)
     
  19. Dante

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    They were all on the Saddam has WMD's bandwagon back then, especially people like Lieberman and Bayh.

    Clinton was lobbing missiles into Afghanistan and the Sudan. Remember the whole "aspirin factory" incident.
     
  20. IntheNet

    IntheNet New Member

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    That was funny!!!! :) Boom..and the sky full of pills! :)
     
  21. skipshady

    skipshady New Member

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    At the time, I figured it was just a bunch of Democrats throwing their collective testicles out the window (well, they didn't have much to begin with, but you know...) for political survival. No, I think it was that Saddam posed a serious threat, not that he had ties to terrorism.

    I also quite distinctly remember mocking Powell's PowerPoint at the UN and joking about the "empty warhead" in the White House.
    I thought it was for violating the no-fly zone and to distract attention from Monica, but my memory is fading as well. Such is old age.
     
  22. Dante

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    Here's what your own Dick, err Cheney, had to say about Zarqawi

    "But let’s look at what we know about Mr. Zarqawi. We know he was running a terrorist camp, training terrorists in Afghanistan prior to 9/11. We know that when we went into Afghanistan that he then migrated to Baghdad. He set up shop in Baghdad where he oversaw the poisons facility up at Khurmal, where the terrorists were developing ricin and other deadly substances to use. We know he’s still in Baghdad today. ... He was in fact in Baghdad before the war and he’s in Baghdad now after the war."

    he said this during the vice-presidential debate

    So according to your boy Cheney, Zarqawi was NOT in Iraq prior to 9/11. Then after we invaded Afghanistan he moved to Iraq. Notice that your boy specifically states that Zarqawi set up shop in Khurmal. Now just where is Khurmal? Oh that's right, in the no-fly zone.

    Just because he met with Zaraqwi in Baghdad doesn't mean he had his base there, Cheney admits that his base was in Khurmal.
     
  23. Dante

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  24. Norsk Troll

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    Under your rationale, America is a terrorist haven as well, and George Bush is directly responsible.

    For as we all know, meetings among terrorists occured on American soil prior to 9/11. And it would be ridiculous, seriously, not to blame George simply because he didn't know of, or condone, those actions.
     
  25. Norsk Troll

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    Sep 7, 2000
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    I think what he was pointing out is that the terrorist areas were not within the "no-fly-zone", because that zone was specifically north of the 36th parallel, and as you see from the map, the "Islamist Area", around Halabjah, is below that parallel.

    However, that area was NOT under the control of Saddam (see on map the limit of Iraqi forces), and those terrorists had specifically set up shop there BECAUSE Saddam was not in control of that area (there being a long history of the terrorist groups actively opposing Saddam, the secularist, especially given their ties to Iran). So, it was more appropriately called "the northern, Kurdish-controlled areas of Iraq", not "the no-fly zone".

    The intent was correct, though - the terrorists were in an area not under Saddam's control.
     

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