More Gooch appeals

Discussion in 'Yanks Abroad' started by BuffloSoldier, Oct 4, 2002.

  1. BuffloSoldier

    BuffloSoldier BigSoccer Supporter

    Jan 31, 2000
    Northern NJ
  2. CrewToon

    CrewToon Member

    Jun 13, 1999
    Greenbrier Farm
    Sorry Buff,

    But I can't read French.
     
  3. usagoal

    usagoal Member

    Oct 19, 2000
    Las Vegas
    babelfish:

    The Federal Council, joined together yesterday morning in Paris, inter alia significant subjects, examined the action brought by the FC Metz after the decision of the board of appeals of the DNCG not to authorize the signature of the American player. Patrick Razurel, delegated general manager of the club, and M° Reiss had been received Monday by the conciliator of the CNOSF.
    Their arguments were received since their interlocutor transmitted an opinion favourable to the Federal Council, which followed this decision by transmitting the file of Oguchi Onyewu to the Legal Affairs Committee of the LFP for homologation.
    Present in Paris, president Molinari accomodated this decision with satisfaction, hoping now that the responsible committee will examine the case at its meeting of next Thursday. It is thus allowed to hope for the qualification of the player within a fast time from now on.


    04/10/2002 | official Site FC Metz
     
  4. odg78

    odg78 Member

    Feb 14, 2001
    North Carolina
    Sorry, I can't read Babelfish :)
     
  5. flanoverseas

    flanoverseas New Member

    Mar 2, 2002
    Xandria
    Sounds suspiciously like he's still under contract. Seeing as how their still trying to have it ratified.
     
  6. soccernutter

    soccernutter Moderator
    Staff Member

    Tottenham Hotspur
    Aug 22, 2001
    Near the mountains.
    Club:
    Tottenham Hotspur FC
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    Also sound somewhat like the work permit appeal process that goes on in Britian.
     
  7. BuffloSoldier

    BuffloSoldier BigSoccer Supporter

    Jan 31, 2000
    Northern NJ
    The contract is still trying to be ratified--so he's not under contract; he's just choosing to stay at the club in the hopes of having the deal ratified, and getting clearance to play.

    Yes, he's getting paid by the club, but since the contract hasn't been ratified by the French Fed, he's not under contract.
     
  8. flanoverseas

    flanoverseas New Member

    Mar 2, 2002
    Xandria
    Oguchi signed a contract. The DNCG has not ratified his license to play professionally in France. They don't have anything to do with his contract. No one can stop Metz from signing me to a contract, but they can stop me from participating in games.

    Oguchi does play in other competitions, just none in the French Second division. I don't know if there is some sort of clause in his contract that allows him to be released in the case that the DNCG not allow him to play, but you have to be under contract to get paid. They're not paying him under the table.
     
  9. BuffloSoldier

    BuffloSoldier BigSoccer Supporter

    Jan 31, 2000
    Northern NJ
    It's not a contract if the Fed doesn't approve it, flan.

    He's an employee of the club, like an administrative assistant or hot dog vendor. Said assistant or vendor could practice with the club, play in friendlies, etc. But he/she isn't under contract.
     
  10. flanoverseas

    flanoverseas New Member

    Mar 2, 2002
    Xandria
    Buff, it's really apples and oranges. In france, vendors and adminstrative assistants sign contracts. If you go to work as a busboy in a restaurant, you sign a contract.

    Knowing what I know about the way French people operate, I would be flabbergasted were he not to have a contract. And I spoke with someone at the club last week who explained to me what I wrote in the last post.

    (muffled voice)
    but I can't say who :)
     
  11. BuffloSoldier

    BuffloSoldier BigSoccer Supporter

    Jan 31, 2000
    Northern NJ
    So he has a contract...if he does...what good is it? He can't play league games. To me, that's a rotten apple.

    It's not a contract that has any weight to it, other than Metz pays Gooch. He doesn't improve, to any great amount, without actually playing
     
  12. flanoverseas

    flanoverseas New Member

    Mar 2, 2002
    Xandria
    I never said it did any good. But a while ago I explained that he wasn't playing because of the situation with the DNCG whereas everyone thought it was because they had too many foreign players - you didn't find it credible, but it turned out to be true.

    Now, all I'm saying is that he has a contract. I agree it's a rotten apple. It's France.
     
  13. HartwickFan

    HartwickFan Member

    Jul 31, 1999
    Climax, MI
    Club:
    VfR Wormatia 08 Worms
    Nat'l Team:
    Tuvalu
    I think you answered your own question.
     
  14. BuffloSoldier

    BuffloSoldier BigSoccer Supporter

    Jan 31, 2000
    Northern NJ
    If monetary concerns are the only thing that determines a positive outcome.

    People slammed Jovan, Frankie, and Eddie for supposedly taking the money and running--but it's a good thing for a young defender?
     
  15. flanoverseas

    flanoverseas New Member

    Mar 2, 2002
    Xandria
    What's more important about this contract, whether or not it does him any good, is that he is bound by it, and therefore the transfer rules.

    So, it's good that he he's "choosing" to stay with the club as it's his only choice.
     
  16. BuffloSoldier

    BuffloSoldier BigSoccer Supporter

    Jan 31, 2000
    Northern NJ
    Again, if he is under a contract that's enforceable under French Fed/FIFA rules. Because if it isn't, he isn't registered to any club, and therefore free as a bird.
     
  17. flanoverseas

    flanoverseas New Member

    Mar 2, 2002
    Xandria
    I don't think that it really has anything to do with the FFF or FIFA. A strange situation only explicable by saying "it's France."
     
  18. flanoverseas

    flanoverseas New Member

    Mar 2, 2002
    Xandria
    Onyewu has been in the states for 15 days taking care of some things at home and is coming back to Metz this week. Ratification of his contract looks good according to his club.
     
  19. GoDC

    GoDC Member

    Nov 23, 1999
    Hamilton, VA
    Any word on this today??
     
  20. BuffloSoldier

    BuffloSoldier BigSoccer Supporter

    Jan 31, 2000
    Northern NJ
    "Mispelling" meant.

    Non.
     
  21. GoDC

    GoDC Member

    Nov 23, 1999
    Hamilton, VA
    Re: "Mispelling" meant.

    :D It is Tuesday right??
     
  22. russ

    russ Member+

    Feb 26, 1999
    Canton,NY
    Club:
    Liverpool FC
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    Hey,it's France-the DNCG members had to leave the meeting early to go home to their mistresses.
     
  23. ncguy

    ncguy New Member

    Jan 28, 2002
    NC
    Back to the drawing board?

    The Legal Affairs Committee of the LFP gave a judgement to Solomon in the business of Oguchi Onyewu. Joined together Tuesday evening, it indeed decided purely and simply to return the file in front of the DNCG... which one badly sees déjuger today after having refused by twice validating the contract of the American defender. In fact in this business, everyone returns the ball, to start with the Federal Council which could - even if it is defended to intervene in businesses concerning the pros to take the step. It did it well concerning the OGC Nice... Today, it is to be feared that Onyewu never carries the colors of the FC Metz. However the club does not spare its efforts to enter the budgetary nails fixed by the competent authority with a situation improved well of official source. As this morning president Molinari said it: "One does not ask for gifts but simply of objectivity!"
     

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