More Fans At MLS Match Than MLB Game

Discussion in 'MLS: General' started by ScottyB10, Sep 13, 2007.

  1. ScottyB10

    ScottyB10 Member

    Nov 21, 2005
    Waco, Texas
    The Mighty Florida Marlins played in front of a crowd of 10,121. HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA

    I know that it doesn't necessarily deal with MLS, but it puts into perspective that there aren't 60,000 at each baseball game like some people think.

    10,000 at a MLB is just sad.
     
  2. TheLostUniversity

    Los Angeles Galaxy
    Feb 4, 2007
    Greater Boston
    Club:
    --other--
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    But let's keep hubris in check. What is the smallest crowd in MLS this year? How many games does a MLB team have at home in a season?
    There are some pitiful baseball crowds, true, but the MLS will succeed by increased attendance, not by baseball losing its.
     
  3. SounderMan

    SounderMan Member

    Nov 8, 2006
    Lacey WA
    Club:
    Seattle Sounders
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    You also have to take into account that for all intent...... their season is over. It's a school night, no playoffs to play for and it's in Miami. I'm sure there is something better to do than go to a game that means nothing.
     
  4. United1

    United1 Member+

    Feb 23, 1999
    Arlington, VA
    Club:
    DC United
  5. touch line

    touch line New Member

    Jul 3, 2007
    Incredible news..

    In other news, I am kinda tired today.
     
  6. scheck

    scheck Member+

    Mar 13, 2007
    Denver
    Club:
    Colorado Rapids
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    wow
     
  7. KCRovert

    KCRovert BigSoccer Supporter

    Jun 17, 2004
    Overland Park
    Club:
    Kansas City Wizards
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    Move the Marlins....:D
     
  8. Chowda

    Chowda Member

    Sep 13, 2004
    Rhode Island
    Club:
    New England Revolution
    Actually, if MLB wasn't so anti-gambling, they would already be in Las Vegas.

    Big difference between MLS and MLB: if teams like Pittsburg, DC, and Florida go on playoff runs, their attendances go way up. In MLS, playoff attendance often goes down because there's not enough time to sell group packages.
     
  9. Sportsfan1

    Sportsfan1 Member

    Jul 22, 2007
    St. Louis, MO
    Club:
    Chelsea FC
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
  10. metros11

    metros11 Member

    Sep 11, 1999
    Highlands of NJ
    Club:
    New York Red Bulls
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
  11. Chris M.

    Chris M. Member+

    Jan 18, 2002
    Chicago
    It was brutally hot at the beginning of the game.

    It was a school night.

    It was Rosh Hashanah killing the Jewish walk up crowd.

    The forecast had rain in it.

    Fans were turned off by football lines on the field.

    It was the start of Ramadan killing the Arab walk up crowd.

    By the end of the game, it was freezing cold -- well by Miami standards.

    It was Castro appreciation night killing Cuban American walk up crowd.

    The media hates the Marlins.

    The Marlins need to sign Makeyel Galindo -- they don't pander to their ethinc base enough.

    Did I say there was rain in the forecast?
     
  12. the Florida teams in MLB don't draw at all. they get under 10k announced attendance regularly. The only time they ever get anyone at their games is when they are playing a cold weather team(Red Sox,Yankees,Mets) and all the retired transplants go to the game and root for the visiting team.
     
  13. FuzzyForeigner

    Oct 29, 2003
    WA
    Club:
    Seattle
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    actually that is wrong dude.

    MLS could have chosen to follow the schedules of other leagues in the world but did not want to come up against NFL. They decided that they could compete better with MLB. Why?

    Because 50 years back the most popular youth sport in america was baseball. Now it is unquestionably soccer. Baseball is waning slwoly. The attendances, doping, lack of stars (really not many recognizable names out there if you are a casual sports fan-Arod? Bonds? It will still be and maybe always will be america's game. But soccer executives in this country felt that this was the league they could compete against best. Just wait till the generation of children that are playing soccer now in droves and record numbers grows up and spends their money on soccer.
     
  14. ThreeApples

    ThreeApples Member+

    Jul 28, 1999
    Smurf Village
    Club:
    San Jose Earthquakes
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    MLS overlaps with the majority of the NFL season.

    No, they decided they didn't want to try to sell tickets in Foxboro in February.
     
  15. wgoood2

    wgoood2 New Member

    Aug 26, 2006
    Strong Island
    Club:
    New York Red Bulls
    Nat'l Team:
    United States

    dont fool yourself..baseball is way more popular than soccer is, and its gonna take another 30 or so years to hope to get to that staus. (hopefully)
     
  16. scheck

    scheck Member+

    Mar 13, 2007
    Denver
    Club:
    Colorado Rapids
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    I guess he didn't watch the first game of the season this year. :rolleyes:

    That said, I do notice a MUCH higher rate of soccer fans here at the university, than I ever do out in public. If MSL can raise it's quality in the next few years, soccer will have a great boom. All it takes is for the general population of soccer fans to be interested in it. '

    Hell, I think I see more soccer kits than i do hockey basketball and baseball shirts.
     
  17. Kazuma

    Kazuma Member+

    Chelsea
    Jul 30, 2007
    Detroit
    Club:
    Chelsea FC

    I've been noticing that as of late. About a year ago I saw a guy wearing a Juventus jersey and I thought it was a rare sight. At the beggining of the year I saw a guy (in his 40s) wearing a Real Madrid Ronaldo jersey. Now at my school and in public I'm seeing guys wearing jerseys ranging from Europe, Mexico, and the MLS. I even agree with you on seeing more kits than the mentioned 3 shirts.
     
  18. Sportsfan1

    Sportsfan1 Member

    Jul 22, 2007
    St. Louis, MO
    Club:
    Chelsea FC
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    this is the worst post ive ever seen.


    the top 13 teams in MLB attendance average 34K or more over 81 home games.

    all of those teams..and I dont have to look it up...have higher local ratings than any 13 mls teams..anywhere from triple to 10 times higher.

    mlb on fox gets 3 million or more every week.

    I live in st louis the cards get a 14 rating on average on CABLE....each ratings point represents 11 thousand households....the cardinals get more viewers or close to a national televised MLS game on espn2 and that is everygame...there are other teams who get higher ratings.

    the top 10 nhl teams sold out every game.

    the next 11-20 were at 90 percent capacity or higher..and 6 of those over 96 percent. at ticket prices anywhere from 3 to 6 times higher per game over 41 games not including playoff games.

    the top 6 nba teams sold out every game

    the next 7 threw 20 were at 90 percent of capacity or higher...with 7 teams at 95 percent or higher..at the same ticket prices as the nhl with 41 home games and playoffs.

    no need to speak of the nfl.


    Yes I will be buying season tickets or atleast going to half of the St louis teams games when the team gets here..I know this is another no no post on big soccer.

    but this thread is stupid
     
  19. MasterShake29

    MasterShake29 Member+

    Oct 28, 2001
    Jersey City, NJ
    Club:
    New York Red Bulls
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    I agree. MLS should have followed the schedules of leagues like Russia, Sweden, Norway, Ireland, and Brazil. Why didn't they?

    Oh wait.
     
  20. TheLostUniversity

    Los Angeles Galaxy
    Feb 4, 2007
    Greater Boston
    Club:
    --other--
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    Ok, 400 is worse than the California Victory or Atlanta Silverbacks on a weekday night against each other. 400 is in fact awful. But, you gotta admit, that 400 deserve their badge....:D
    Still, let's not kid ourselves, MLS will succeed for internal reasons, not because of a lousy baseball team getting a crapalicious audience.
     
  21. TheLostUniversity

    Los Angeles Galaxy
    Feb 4, 2007
    Greater Boston
    Club:
    --other--
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    If MLS followed the schedule of leagues in Europe, they would compete with american football only in the fall. The spring, where the heart of the drive to playoffs would occur, would leave soccer as the only open air sport around. But, and this is a big one, they would have half the teams trying to draw a home crowd to a snow ridden wintry blast of Hell...just the hypothermia lawsuits would bankrupt the MLS :rolleyes: Our weather is just too extreme to make a go of it in keeping along with the Euroleagues.
     
  22. ritsoccer86

    ritsoccer86 Member

    Jul 18, 2005
    Exactly.
     
  23. alexp92

    alexp92 Member

    Jul 5, 2007
    mls crowds are often better than devil rays crowds too, the mlb in florida is a joke
     
  24. Mattbro

    Mattbro Member+

    Sep 21, 2001
    I don't know why everyone is getting on your case about this post, because I distinctly remember this being one of the arguments for the Spring to Fall season in the early years of MLS. Of course, weather plays a role and might be the primary factor, but I could almost swear that I remember the MLS brass stating that one of the reasons they scheduled the MLS season the way they did was so that the league would only have to go up against baseball for much of the season, and not pointyball, basketball and hockey all at the same time.
     
  25. Kopper

    Kopper New Member

    Oct 29, 2000
    http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/article/2007/09/12/AR2007091202444.html

     

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