Mongrel America

Discussion in 'Politics & Current Events' started by Colin Grabow, Feb 5, 2003.

  1. GringoTex

    GringoTex Member

    Aug 22, 2001
    1301 miles de Texas
    Club:
    Tottenham Hotspur FC
    Nat'l Team:
    Bolivia
    Excellent article. Thanks, Colin.
     
  2. dfb547490

    dfb547490 New Member

    Feb 9, 2000
    The Heights
    The sooner we are all interbred and indistinguishable by race, the better.


    Alex
     
  3. GringoTex

    GringoTex Member

    Aug 22, 2001
    1301 miles de Texas
    Club:
    Tottenham Hotspur FC
    Nat'l Team:
    Bolivia
    So are you doing your part by nailing as many black chicks as you can?

    But seriously, why would you want everybody to look like they're from the same race?
     
  4. Cascarino's Pizzeria

    Apr 29, 2001
    New Jersey, USA
    You hear that a lot on BS - "we should all fvck until we're the same race." I don't get it. People are free to date, screw & marry whoever they want. People don't need dating tips from soccer fans. ;)
     
  5. dfb547490

    dfb547490 New Member

    Feb 9, 2000
    The Heights
    No, but my girlfriend is part Cuban.

    Because then there will be no racism and no liberals seeing racism in everything.


    Alex
     
  6. GringoTex

    GringoTex Member

    Aug 22, 2001
    1301 miles de Texas
    Club:
    Tottenham Hotspur FC
    Nat'l Team:
    Bolivia
    He's only 18.....
    He's only 18.....
    He's only 18.....
    He's only 18.....
     
  7. SoFla Metro

    SoFla Metro Member

    Jul 21, 2000
    Ft. Lauderdale, FL
    Because there will be no more Republicans?






    Hey, if you're allowed to say something so idiotically stupid, so am I.
     
  8. Mel Brennan

    Mel Brennan AN INTERVIDUAL

    Apr 8, 2002
    Club:
    Paris Saint Germain FC
    The article starts by positing:
    "Are racial categories still an important—or even a valid—tool of government policy?"

    Cultural anthropologists have abdicated the very word - race - entirely, submitting - as a discipline - that it has no meaning. Governments would do well to do the same, for it has no meaning; it is a word that becomes loaded for all kinds of other things we want to say to one another, about one another, but lack the courage or intellect to honestly say, so we find ourselves in the second-tier, second-rate and second-class discussion around this notion of "race."

    Those that find this an authentic, usable term, a defintion please...

    Never mind, I'll do it for you.

    From the American Heritage® Dictionary of the English Language: Fourth Edition, 2000, maybe the worst excuse for a definition I have ever seen, making my above point:

    http://www.bartleby.com/61/39/R0003900.html

    Indeed, the Dictionary save itself only with its USAGE NOTE, of which this is the last sentence:

    Citing this and other points—such as the fact that a person who is considered black in one society might be nonblack in another—many cultural anthropologists now consider race to be more a social or mental construct than an objective biological fact.
     
  9. dfb547490

    dfb547490 New Member

    Feb 9, 2000
    The Heights
    OK, so if we all look alike explain to me how there'll be racism.

    Other forms of bigotry, sure, but not racism.


    Alex
     
  10. Mel Brennan

    Mel Brennan AN INTERVIDUAL

    Apr 8, 2002
    Club:
    Paris Saint Germain FC
    The Follies of Youth

    lol. I can honestly say I was, relatively speaking, a goddamned fool idiot when I was that age too, but telling him that won't help him...
     
  11. Mel Brennan

    Mel Brennan AN INTERVIDUAL

    Apr 8, 2002
    Club:
    Paris Saint Germain FC
    Ok, I'll bite. Actually, I'll chomp down greedily.
    If we agree that race has, at best, a meaning or interpretation that is different for everyone, and thus "race" as a notion can be manipulated in any direction precisely because it is a non-term, then racism (The belief that race accounts for differences in human character or ability and that a particular race is superior to others, OR discrimination or prejudice based on race) can be manipulated to fit any contrived definition of racism.

    Put it this way: today, among "racists," race might mean religion (Jews) or skin color (brown-skinned people). Now, let's paint everyboady beige. How does that change the racists view of, for example, Jews?
     
  12. dfb547490

    dfb547490 New Member

    Feb 9, 2000
    The Heights
    Because anti-Semitism isn't racism, it's another form of bigotry altogether. I said that other forms of bigotry (anti-Semitism, ethnic hatreds, etc) would still exist, just that racism would not.

    Let me ask you this, would we have had slavery in America if we were all the same skin color? What about Jim Crow? That's my point. We still could have had sheet-clad hillbillies burning crosses on people's lawns for other reasons, but that particular form of bigotry (which has historically been the most damaging, at least in America) would not have existed.


    Alex
     
  13. GringoTex

    GringoTex Member

    Aug 22, 2001
    1301 miles de Texas
    Club:
    Tottenham Hotspur FC
    Nat'l Team:
    Bolivia
    By that logic:

    Let's get rid of religion so Sept. 11 doesn't happen again.

    Let's get rid of the military so that there's not another Vietnam.

    Lets get rid of sex so that there's no more rape.
     
  14. Mel Brennan

    Mel Brennan AN INTERVIDUAL

    Apr 8, 2002
    Club:
    Paris Saint Germain FC
    YOU HAVE GOT TO BE ************ING KIDDING ME...

    Wow.

    If you honestly think that America wouldn't have had slaves due to some monolithically universal melanin equilization, you really, REALLY need to go to a better school.

    For starters, pick one that doesn't simplify the 18th and 19th-century world, and doesn't reduce the perceived need for slaves in America to solely a desire of people of a different color to subjugate people of another color.

    Can't you, on your own, think of any other possible reason or reasons that slavery might have still existed in America, even if we were all the same color?

    If you can't I'll have to relegate the 3.7% of posts you provide this board that have made sense to dumb luck...
     
  15. Mel Brennan

    Mel Brennan AN INTERVIDUAL

    Apr 8, 2002
    Club:
    Paris Saint Germain FC
    in your definition. My point is that the word itself is useless to most thinking people, and professionals in general, because it possesses that very dynamic: it has no real meaning, thus it means something different to everyone. THUS, while you submit that "hating the Jewish race" is Anti-Semitism, the spewer of that hate might indeed be glad to be know as a racist wen it comes to Jews, because that's how he sees himslef, and that's how he sees "race" and "racism" defined...

    Sheesh...
     
  16. dfb547490

    dfb547490 New Member

    Feb 9, 2000
    The Heights
    Some of your liberal buddies would be pretty happy with that one.

    I wish we didn't need to have a military.

    Skin color doesn't bring anything inherently positive to society. All the things you mentioned do (aside from the military, which is not inherently positive but works as a positive as it prevents those who would do us harm from doing so).

    I don't believe that skin color affects people any more than hair color or eye color do, but unlike hair color and eye color a lot of people hate each other because of it.

    Plus, mixed-race chicks are hot.


    Alex
     
  17. superdave

    superdave Member+

    Jul 14, 1999
    Raleigh NC
    Club:
    DC United
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    Because I'm in the mood to pile on....

    Alex, google "indentured servitude" and get back to us.

    EDIT: And google "serf" while you're at it.
     
  18. dfb547490

    dfb547490 New Member

    Feb 9, 2000
    The Heights
    Re: YOU HAVE GOT TO BE ************ING KIDDING ME...

    If one day in the 1830s everyone woke up and was all the same skin color, then yes, slavery would have continued to exist. However the very reason that European slave traders brought African slaves to the new world (which predated the American Revolution) in the first place was because they were viewed as subhuman because of their skin color (and were physically able to toil all day in mines in Latin America, the first use for slaves in the Americas, which the native Indians were not, plus they were already immune to smallpox and other European diseases and so posed less of a financial risk than enslaving Indians).


    Alex
     
  19. superdave

    superdave Member+

    Jul 14, 1999
    Raleigh NC
    Club:
    DC United
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    We all agree Asian chicks are hot, right?

    But can you imagine how insane you would be if you lived in Shanghai, and that's all there were?
    Stay away from my daughter.

    And in your case, my son too.
     
  20. dfb547490

    dfb547490 New Member

    Feb 9, 2000
    The Heights
    Fair enough, if we were all the same skin color racism would either be eliminated (under my definition) or greatly diminished (under your definition). Either one is good.


    Alex
     
  21. dfb547490

    dfb547490 New Member

    Feb 9, 2000
    The Heights
    So indentured servitude and slavery are the same thing now??

    Wow, maybe I should be in favor of reparations for the descendants of slavery after all.


    Alex
     
  22. dfb547490

    dfb547490 New Member

    Feb 9, 2000
    The Heights
    I was in Ireland a few years ago, and all they have over there is white chicks, but that didn't stop my friends from appreciating hotness in some of said white chicks.

    OK, Halle Berry would be a lot hotter if she grew her hair out. But still.


    Alex
     
  23. Garcia

    Garcia Member

    Dec 14, 1999
    Castro Castro
    Beat me to it, dave.

    So I will just add one thing.
    Many points of origin in the slave trade were run by blacks (ie: blacks sold blacks).

    I took a quick glance before I hit submit and noticed again that dave must be playing some Jedi mind trick on me.

    I was thinking about that "hot chicks" comment. Many women take that term "chicks" word as a strong derogatory slur.

    Then I added to my experience. My wife is so common in Peru, when you consider her "exotic look" by USA standards.

    I was said to "bettering the race" in Peru because I married a chola. Ironic but true.

    Fear of a black planet was my era. Public Enemy was cool back in my day when I was an honorary black guy. Yea, I invented White Chocolate. Forget Jason Williams. I was doing that stuff all over the city parks for decades.

    No matter how individuals grow and learn about race relations, certain truths always show their ugly head. Many in my family hated the fact that I was not going to marry some white Peruvian. My best friends and I were so tight. But, all that went out the window when they had eyes for my sister. I never had some Tony Montana crush on my sister, so don't go there.

    I like rap and R&B, but hated seeing P Diddy and J Lo together. What is she doing with that black guy? I can admit it and I am just as sick to see her with the mega-white dude, Ben Aflack.

    Then I wonder about J LO. I hate her anyway! She is not really Latina and has zero talent! I don't even think she looks good.
     
  24. GringoTex

    GringoTex Member

    Aug 22, 2001
    1301 miles de Texas
    Club:
    Tottenham Hotspur FC
    Nat'l Team:
    Bolivia
    Shouldn't that be "bettering the species?"

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