MO steps down as coach

Discussion in 'Toronto FC' started by Camcamy, Feb 1, 2008.

  1. Camcamy

    Camcamy New Member

    Apr 14, 2007
    Toronto
    Thoughts?
     
  2. Camcamy

    Camcamy New Member

    Apr 14, 2007
    Toronto
    http://www.thescore.ca/blogs/footy/index.asp?name=footy/2008/02/mo_johnston_ste.html

    "Reports out of Toronto FC this morning state that Mo will go upstairs and new coach will be former Leeds and recent Luton Town coach John Carver. A press conference is pending but we wanted to give you an opportunity to give your feedback as soon as we heard. Tune into the Footy Show tonight at 630pm EST for more details."

    WOW! Maybe he can sign some players now!
     
  3. ArteEtLabore

    ArteEtLabore Member

    Dec 16, 2006
    Club:
    Toronto FC
    Nat'l Team:
    Canada
    I can't comment on Carver, but I think a number of people would agree that Mo's strengths are in building the team, making trades and drafting players. I see this as a very good move
     
  4. mikenike

    mikenike Member

    May 31, 2007
    Carver used to be with Newcastle. If I remember correctly he was an absolutely awful scout, but a good coach.
     
  5. jpg75

    jpg75 Member

    Jun 11, 2005
    Toronto, Canada
    Club:
    Toronto FC
    Nat'l Team:
    Canada
    Good move, Mo is a good "manager" or what we'd call a GM and perhaps not so much as a coach. He's a shrew trader and has a keen eye for young college talent as evident with his drafting. Now he hands the coaching reins to someone more competent - hopefully, Luton were relegated last year from the CCC if i'm not mistaken.
     
  6. VinsanityFC

    VinsanityFC New Member

    Apr 5, 2007
    Hamilton, ON
    Hey, as long as Richard Peddie isn't trading/drafting, it's all good....:D
     
  7. Camcamy

    Camcamy New Member

    Apr 14, 2007
    Toronto
    Amen brother!
     
  8. crazypete13

    crazypete13 Moderator
    Staff Member

    May 7, 2007
    A walk from BMO
    Club:
    Toronto FC
    At least Mo can focus on filling out the squad and leave the coaching duties to a full time coach. But seriously - if this is what qualifies as huge news - I'm a lot underwhelmed.
     
  9. ArteEtLabore

    ArteEtLabore Member

    Dec 16, 2006
    Club:
    Toronto FC
    Nat'l Team:
    Canada
    Well I know we were all hoping for news of player signings, but a coaching change is still pretty big news. As well, we have a new role being created on the team which means that Carver can focus on coaching and Mo can focus on building the team.
     
  10. adammac19

    adammac19 BigSoccer Supporter

    Jan 31, 2006
    Sydney Mines
    Club:
    Toronto FC
    Nat'l Team:
    Canada
    So anyone now anything about this John Carver guy, like what tactics he likes to use, his track record etc?
     
  11. VinsanityFC

    VinsanityFC New Member

    Apr 5, 2007
    Hamilton, ON
    I know TFC's new set-up is commonplace in Europe (ie. coach plus 'sporting director' or whatever that deals with signings), but is it commonplace in MLS? Does anyone know?
     
  12. mellon002

    mellon002 Member

    Jan 24, 2003
    Towson, MD
    Carver stepped in for Kevin Blackwell last season for Leeds and struggled. The club was sinking from the beginning of the year so he wasn't dealt a very good hand to begin with. It's hard to say because the last two clubs where he was a manager or asst. manager (Leeds and Luton) have been in dire financial situations. However, he was a part of the club when Leeds went to the playoff final in '06.
     
  13. Northkid78

    Northkid78 New Member

    Jan 31, 2008
    Not entirely sure either if it is commonplace in the MLS, however I think this will free up Mo's real gift and that is ultimately player drafting and trading.

    Great idea. Now lets cross our fingers for John Carver.
     
  14. zasal911

    zasal911 Member

    Sep 1, 2000
    I like the move...

    I think Mo is not a good because he hasn't gotten the best out of his team either through motivation or formation, and has a squad full of underachievers.

    Even as a general manager who is charged with building the team I have little faith in him, I think he's shortsighted when it comes to searching for players (ie. only Britain), hasn't been able to attract any of the little Canadian talent that does exist.

    Additonally, he's often rude and arrogant with the media and doesn't take well to criticism...

    The only thing I can say is that he's a good scout.
     
  15. RichardUK

    RichardUK Member

    Dec 14, 2006
    Nottingham, UK
    Club:
    Nottingham Forest FC
    And here's your new manager!

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    Not really. It's this ugly mug...

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  16. crazypete13

    crazypete13 Moderator
    Staff Member

    May 7, 2007
    A walk from BMO
    Club:
    Toronto FC
    Well Alexi Lalas is a GM only too - I guess you need red hair to be a GM in MLS.
     
  17. TFCMANU

    TFCMANU Member

    Apr 19, 2007
    Parkdale/Newmarket
    Club:
    Toronto FC
    Nat'l Team:
    Portugal
  18. jloome

    jloome Member

    May 18, 2007
    Edmonton
    Probably a wise move, albeit selfish -- he waited until he'd run out of time to make transfer deadline moves, and this whiffs of blaming the lack of signings on time contstraints, which is b****hit. He lost his entire coaching staff as well, which does not bode well for their confidence in him.

    I'd say at this point, 'GM Mo' is on the death watch. If he doesn't strengthen the hell out of the team in the next month, we'll probably start hearing things like "he has our complete confidence" from MLSE.
     
  19. Oldtimer6

    Oldtimer6 Member

    Dec 6, 2006
    Toronto
    Club:
    Toronto FC
    Nat'l Team:
    Canada
    Nonsense. Read Ive's take:


    http://www.soccerbyives.net/soccer_by_ives/2008/02/mo-johnston-to.html
     
  20. Polygong

    Polygong Moderator
    Staff Member

    Apr 8, 2007
    Toronto
    Club:
    Toronto FC
    Nat'l Team:
    Canada
    To be fair, most of the current top Canadian talent isn't available, they're busy in Europe or with stronger MLS teams.

    He should widen his scope beyond Britain, but that's what he knows best right now, hopefully in his new position he'll be able to better assess other places. It's hard to find good talent in Europe or South America that isn't already being pursued by better paying European clubs. I'd suggest he look in places with good talent that are little more off the radar, like Korea.

    That said, I've always been of the belief that the chef should be the one to select the ingredients, but I'll wait to see how this pans out before passing judgement.
     
  21. TFC08

    TFC08 New Member

    Jan 9, 2008
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  22. TFCMANU

    TFCMANU Member

    Apr 19, 2007
    Parkdale/Newmarket
    Club:
    Toronto FC
    Nat'l Team:
    Portugal
  23. Toon³

    Toon³ Member

    Dec 27, 2002
    Club:
    Newcastle United FC
    Excellent coach, well done for landing him. Hopefully he can make the move from coach to manager.
     
  24. jloome

    jloome Member

    May 18, 2007
    Edmonton
    Same thing over here. a 'head Coach' is the same as a manager, while general manager is more like a director, handling finances, acquisitions etc. but working off the coach/manager's blueprint.
     

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