Mo - good coach?

Discussion in 'New York Red Bulls' started by DJPoopypants, Apr 3, 2006.

  1. DJPoopypants

    DJPoopypants New Member

    I dunno. Seemed to have no answer in the 2nd half.

    Great miked commentary just after halftime...something like "2-0 is a terrible position to be in..."

    Will Red Bull get him in the NYC tartan day parade?
     
  2. MLS SupaStr3

    MLS SupaStr3 New Member

    Jul 2, 2003
    NJ
    it's hard to tell after just one game if he's a good coach or not. i'm very afraid of his subbing right now though...it's reminiscent of bob bradley. i would've loved to see a sub around the 60th minute or so.
     
  3. crusio

    crusio New Member

    May 10, 2004
    Princeton
    I'll decide after game 10.....
     
  4. VOwithwater

    VOwithwater New Member

    Oct 17, 2005
    Red bull had three weakness in this game and one of them should have been corrected in this game and the other two in the next practioces.

    The most notibile problem for me was in general we did not play away from pressure by switiching our field for the whole freaking game. This is in excusable/ No one saw it on the coaching staff? I find that impossible to believe. Main man to blame was a defensive mid he never did it not once in the game why?

    Also Tony made too many kick distributions we hardly ever won any of those. Why not throw more rather then less.

    Our new left wing was not dangetrous I did not see any good crosses for most of these game. Stayed wide never cut inside the field when he dribbled. We got no corners when he had the ball when they stopped him. If he was dangerous we should have got at least some corner kicks called

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  5. Turk from Pigs Eye

    Turk from Pigs Eye New Member

    Jun 14, 2002
    Pigs Eye (St. Paul),
    The wall opened up on DC's free kick goal as well. Shemp Messing made note of that in the broadcast and said Meola had a right to be upset.

    I wonder if Mo is a good coach for Wynn. Marvell has a lot of talent but he seems to need good coaching as well to develop.
     
  6. cleansheetbsc

    cleansheetbsc Member+

    Mar 17, 2004
    Club:
    --other--
    ...and of course after 90 minutes we can start to speculate. Mo can't get a rookie to improve in his first game! Fire his ass, and trade Wynn's sorrry ass to where all Metro prospects go to die - Columbus.

    Come back in July.
     
  7. crusio

    crusio New Member

    May 10, 2004
    Princeton
    There were problems all over the field. I know.

    But we can't get into this thing where everyone sucks or everyone is the second coming game in game out. Let it breath a little bit.
     
  8. NJSoccerHead

    NJSoccerHead Member

    Feb 1, 1999
    good coach? he's never coached before! so we have a guy learning how to coach at the pro level. his biggest problem seems to be player selection. i see a lot of size, speed and strength, but it's not the most skilled group of players i have ever seen. he may rally the boys in a positive way and they might love playing for him, but this team will have trouble possessing the ball with some of the "talent" out there (Parke?).

    player selection may be AL's fault also. i find it funny that a team that couldn't score last year drafts a defender as their first pick. Wynne's good (he's no steve shak!) but tells you the mentality of this team. so we have defense minded team that can't defend a 2-0 lead. that should tell us something.
     
  9. JBigjake

    JBigjake Member+

    Nov 16, 2003
    IMO, Mo needed to react more quickly to the introduction of Eski & the changes in the DCU attack. United played with more energy the entire match. Our second goal was lucky, as was theirs. Otherwise it's 1-1.
     
  10. cleansheetbsc

    cleansheetbsc Member+

    Mar 17, 2004
    Club:
    --other--
    In all seriousness, as a Monday morning QB, what move does he make? Your statement doesn't really offer anything tangible criticism. Personally I felt he needed to go longer with what he had. A swap for fresh legs would probably have come at a cost of talent since I am not sold with really anyone on the bench for a solid 30 minutes (including a semi-dinged Lisi).

    In his MSG interview he didn't want to go into a defensive shell, so if he brings on a Lisi or Jolley, at the expense of Youri or another offensive player? it is a defensive move that plays into what DC would want/expect him to do.

    Should he have gone more offensive and hope to get into a shootout with a 2 goal lead?
     
  11. j1mbr0wn

    j1mbr0wn Member

    Jun 3, 2005
    Newark, NJ
    Club:
    New York Red Bulls
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    Here's my perspective:

    Mo's team was absolutely horrible in South Carolina. Couldn't buy a goal. He turned them around enough in the short time to get a two goal lead.

    As for the defense, he's certainly not hidden the fact that he isn't satisfied yet, and is still looking for that experienced defensive leader. The team fell back on it's heels after the first goal, but the end of the game saw RBNY attacking and creating chances again.

    This, to me, shows that Mo was able to inject something into the match to bring his team back on track when they seemed to be heading into the shutdown mode of the past.

    And, as for the folks who b!tch about the trades to Columbus: GET OVER IT! Did Columbus win against KC? Did all this talent we sent over there suddenly create the superclub of the mid west? Yeah, that's what I thought. STFU. :D
     
  12. j1mbr0wn

    j1mbr0wn Member

    Jun 3, 2005
    Newark, NJ
    Club:
    New York Red Bulls
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    Actually, Mo reacted faster than you think. He told the players EXACTLY what was going to happen. The team needed to react to the changes, and didn't. And Mo certainly isn't allowed 11 substitues.
     
  13. JBigjake

    JBigjake Member+

    Nov 16, 2003
    But that's what the team seemed to do, IMO. Also, Wynne consistenly played well inside his man, leaving the wing open time & time again, which was the way DC consistenly played. I'm not saying he needed to tightly mark the winger, but playing 20-30 yards off the man consistently? Eski was wide open for his goal; that's wrong. Wynne said he though Eski was closer, but that wasn't case through the entire half.
     
  14. JBigjake

    JBigjake Member+

    Nov 16, 2003
    Your reply is somewhat confusing. If Mo told the team what was going to happen, then surely he also instructed them on how to react. He did not just expect them to react. The fact is that they didn't react.
    The other problem was not playing to the whistle. The first goal followed an apparent injury to DCU, where the player went down, then slowly got up & limped, while our players seemed to await the ball being kicked out of play. What followed was a cross-field pass to Adu, a long forward pass to a loosely guarded Gros, then a long cross to the foot of an unmarked Eski in the box. The entire defense sleepwalked through this sequence & it cost us a goal. The second goal also found the defense flat-footed. The defense reacted slowly to the pass to Erken, leaving him an uncontested shot which deflected off of Parke. No one needed to be on top of Erken; someone just needed to be covering him while standing between him & the goal.
     
  15. VOwithwater

    VOwithwater New Member

    Oct 17, 2005
    You have to have some balls to face the shot. Remember in a WC game Nigerian player was in the wall and got the hell out of the way when he saw the ball was going to hit him. That FK scored and may have knocked out nigeria from the WC
     
  16. VOwithwater

    VOwithwater New Member

    Oct 17, 2005
    I was on the DC part of DC site and they raved about this new kid. Wynne
     
  17. wingzero13

    wingzero13 New Member

    May 13, 2004
    Denver, CO
    i was impressed by wynne. a couple more games under his belt and maybe he will play like a ROTY. i think mo got lucky that dc couldn't put anything together in the offense because of adu's terrible passing. they got an excellent free kick from youri and an oportunistic goal from buddle (the goalie's fault) and all of a sudden mo looks like a genious. nowak changed things up and mo couldn't handle the changes fast enough and now he is incompetent. i think its too early to tell, but nowak definatley out classed mo on this one. mo needs to bring in someone to help him out until he gets the hang of being a proffessional coach in mls.
     
  18. Arisrules

    Arisrules Member

    Feb 19, 2000
    Washington, DC
    first game obviously, but to say he "turned things around" since Carolina is a bit much.

    We didn't score a goal in the run of play. The first was a goal for the ages by Youri, and the second was a retarded mistake by the backup keeper of DC. Other than Youri's free kicks were we really dangerous?

    The backline was a mess because the midfield provided no support. So Wynne could be turned on combination play, same with Mendes, and Graham was just garbage.

    Buddle is the full package obviously, but what does it matter if he doesn't see the ball?

    I was worried because Mo didn't make any changes after the first DC goal. I thought we were going to see Lisi or somebody in the midfield to provide support and possesion (because we were coughing up the ball like a bad habit).

    The fact that Canero didn't play is worrying me. This guy was/is supposedly better than "O'Brien" according to Mo, yet Wynne...as a rookie...is ahead of him on the right back depth chart? I thought Canero coudl play in the midfield, both fullback spots, and also as the rcb or lcb in a 3-back system. Where was he?
     
  19. j1mbr0wn

    j1mbr0wn Member

    Jun 3, 2005
    Newark, NJ
    Club:
    New York Red Bulls
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    Yes, exactly. Do you think that maybe there are more things involved than just what Mo says? After all, I'm sure he told them to "go out and win this game", but they didn't do that either.

    Mo told them what to expect. But the defense was back on it's heels and almost a bit panicky. Mo didn't tell the defense to make poor passes and let DC press the attack. Come on. The players freezing up on the field is NOT the coach's fault in this instance.
     
  20. DJNaco

    DJNaco New Member

    Jun 23, 1999
    North Florida
    Yes. Next question, please.
     

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