MLS v. Chelsea

Discussion in 'Referee' started by ColoradoRef, Jul 25, 2012.

  1. ColoradoRef

    ColoradoRef Member

    Jul 10, 2011
    Club:
    Colorado Rapids
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    Okay. I'll say it. I like how Toledo gave pretty much every borderline call to MLS. And he didn't give Chelsea a late PK when no one would have complained if he had. Bravo.
     
  2. NC Soccer United

    NC Soccer United BigSoccer Yellow Card

    Jan 25, 2011
    Club:
    Flamengo Rio Janeiro
    That was not even close for a PK. He tucked in his arms, despite the ball hitting his left arm. That is a classic case of ball to hand. Moving on.....
     
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  3. ColoradoRef

    ColoradoRef Member

    Jul 10, 2011
    Club:
    Colorado Rapids
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
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  4. La Rikardo

    La Rikardo Moderator

    May 9, 2011
    nj
    Why in the world are they wearing last year's uniforms?
     
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  5. Scrabbleship

    Scrabbleship Member

    May 24, 2012
    Hmmm... I'm not so sure. But it's a tough one.
     
  6. MassachusettsRef

    MassachusettsRef Moderator
    Staff Member

    Apr 30, 2001
    Washington, DC
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    I was wondering this as well. I could only come up with two reasons, neither of which is probably correct:

    1. None of the current colors were deemed to work. Yellow probably could have, but the other three either wouldn't work on television (black and grey) or wouldn't work on the field (the light blue).

    2. This was a "WFC" match, and not an MLS game, so the current MLS uniforms weren't used as they have the MLS patch on them (note that in the other WFC matches, the OSI jerseys get used). But, looking at the schedule, I don't think this is true.

    Bet the real answer is something different. Either that, or no real answer at all.
     
  7. Erocker

    Erocker Member

    Apr 2, 2012
    Club:
    CD Jalapa
    No way that should be given. Ball to hand. Arm in a natural position. If you give that we'll have attackers trying to kick the ball off defenders arms in the box.
     
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  8. MassachusettsRef

    MassachusettsRef Moderator
    Staff Member

    Apr 30, 2001
    Washington, DC
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    Wasn't the more "obvious" PK possibility the push into the back? They only showed one replay, but it occurred after the possible handling highlight that is linked to above.

    As for the possible handling, my take is that this is a prime example of why there is no "right" answer for some controversial calls in our game. I see ball-to-hand, almost a deliberate kick of the ball toward the hand, and no call, personally. But I also see that the defender lunges with his left leg and the hand goes out with it, so there is some movement. You could make arguments either way. For me, it comes down to it being "doubtful" or "dubious." I would hope most referees err on that side of the ledger and would opt not to give the penalty kick. But, as ColoradoRef says, it's closer than it might seem and giving the penalty would not be an absurd decision.
     
  9. Hararea

    Hararea Member+

    Jan 21, 2005
    I believe the obvious push by DeMerit was outside the box.
     
  10. Errol V

    Errol V Member+

    Mar 30, 2011
    Exactly.
     
  11. John F.

    John F. New Member

    Jun 30, 2012
    I have to agree about the 2 incidents. The defender's arm was not in an unnatatual position, and the ball was kicked onto it from close range. Contrary to the comments of the announcers, the fact the arm was not against the defender's body does not make it deliberate handling.

    I would have called the push.
     

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