MLS TV Rights

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  1. Kyle Crew

    Kyle Crew Member+

    Feb 23, 2013
    Columbus, Ohio
    Club:
    Columbus Crew
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    I’m just gonna make a thread for this.

    New rumor is that Apple TV+ is now out. So, basically Fox isn’t really interested (beyond one national game per game), ESPN+ looks like they could take it or leave it, Apple is out.

    Remaining options are HBO Max/Discovery (which would include B/R Live and TNT), Peacock, Amazon, and…..

    I think HBO Max might get involved, but I could also just see it defaulting to ESPN. What a shitshow lol.
     
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  2. Bill Archer

    Bill Archer BigSoccer Supporter

    Mar 19, 2002
    Washington, NC
    Club:
    Columbus Crew
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    ESPN is teetering on the edge of broke. They're not going to be able to pay much. Their business model is dependent on cable customers paying six bucks a month even if they don't want it.

    ESPN + can't. begn to replace that kind of money.
     
  3. Kryptonite

    Kryptonite BS XXV

    Apr 10, 1999
    Columbus
    Club:
    Columbus Crew
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    Would NBC possibly be interested? EPL/MLS doubleheaders, anyone? I have a feeling they're a long shot.
     
  4. Kryptonite

    Kryptonite BS XXV

    Apr 10, 1999
    Columbus
    Club:
    Columbus Crew
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    #4 Kryptonite, May 30, 2022
    Last edited: May 30, 2022
    As is most every other channel on the 6-7 (more?) non-cable providers in the country. FS1, Paramount, MTV, etc....they all have similar models.

    Channels owned by Turner, Viacom, Comcast and whoever else are charging Hulu and DirecTV the same money that they're charging Charter and Cox.

    The exception might be the TV providers that have ownership in specific channels such as AT&T owning U-Verse, part of DirecTV and DirecTV Stream and a whole lot of channels or Hulu being partially owned by Disney which also owns the ESPN/Disney channel group (Comcast is most likely out of Hulu as early as 2024.) But since we're not privy to the negotiations, nobody can tell for sure.
     
  5. Bill Archer

    Bill Archer BigSoccer Supporter

    Mar 19, 2002
    Washington, NC
    Club:
    Columbus Crew
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    First, no other channel charges anywhere near what ESPN does. Those other guys don't even come close.

    Secondly, ESPN is paying billions and billions of dollars for NFL/NBA/NCAA rights. Again, the other channels pay relative peanuts for their programming. What do you think I Love Lucy and Law & Order reruns cost anyway? Not even remotely close to what the NBA gets for the playoffs.

    ESPN is playing a whole different game
     
  6. SLSHOT01

    SLSHOT01 Member+

    Columbus
    United States
    Oct 26, 2017
    Edison, Ohio
    Watch we'll end up with an MLS+ Network.

    Direct to consumer is so hot right now

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  7. Big J 0526

    Big J 0526 Member+

    Columbus Crew SC
    United States
    Sep 8, 2010
    Columbus, Ohio
    Club:
    Columbus Crew
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    isnt mls's whole "business" model built upon the premise of ever increasing tv rights deals?

    edit: and ever increasing franchise fees
     
  8. Minnman

    Minnman Member+

    Feb 11, 2000
    Columbus, OH, USA
    Club:
    Columbus Crew
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    I doubt it. Franchise fees, perhaps. But the league has never had a major TV deal, and it’s managed to survive, and thrive, for over a quarter century.

    The stadium situations nearly every club has now, coupled with strong attendance and sponsorship deals seem to have the league in a decent position.

    TV ratings have always been the league’s weakest link as a business. Hard to see that changing much, at least in my lifetime.
     
  9. kgilbert78

    kgilbert78 Member+

    Borussia Mönchengladbach
    United States
    Dec 28, 2006
    Cowlumbus, OH
    Club:
    Borussia Mönchengladbach
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    The NHL is in a similar boat, and it has survived for somewhat longer.
     
  10. Bill Archer

    Bill Archer BigSoccer Supporter

    Mar 19, 2002
    Washington, NC
    Club:
    Columbus Crew
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    Absolutely. The numbers are what they are. Broadcasters pay for eyeballs and MLS doesn't deliver them, and all the flummery about growth and the future and blah blah don't change that.
     
  11. puttputtfc

    puttputtfc Member+

    Sep 7, 1999
    NHL delivers at a regional level from what I understand. The ratings in both cities are high when Columbus plays Chicago although people in Boston or Denver don't necessarily watch.

    MLS doesn't have that. 260K nationally doesn't move the needle. I read an article years ago that claimed MLS regionally, and it didn't matter whether you were talking about the all mighty Sounders or lowly Crew, drew around 17K. It's difficult walking into a negotiation wanting more money when you're outdrawn by Pudgy Middle Aged Guy Plays Golf With Inexplicable Hot Chicks.
     
  12. kgilbert78

    kgilbert78 Member+

    Borussia Mönchengladbach
    United States
    Dec 28, 2006
    Cowlumbus, OH
    Club:
    Borussia Mönchengladbach
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    I do wonder what the numbers for the EPL vs MLS are (as well as other international leagues).
     
  13. puttputtfc

    puttputtfc Member+

    Sep 7, 1999
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  14. POdinCowtown

    POdinCowtown Member+

    Jan 15, 2002
    Columbus
    There's a TV thread in the N&A forum with weekly and overall season ratings for EPL vs Liga MX vs MLS. MLS trails Liga MX and EPL though we usually beat Series A or Bundesliga.
     
  15. Crew96Fan

    Crew96Fan Member+

    Jul 27, 2013
    Club:
    Columbus Crew
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    Liga MX is far and away the most popular league in the US, based on regular ratings.

     
  16. Crew96Fan

    Crew96Fan Member+

    Jul 27, 2013
    Club:
    Columbus Crew
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    From 2021:
    • '21 Champions League Final viewers (CBS): 2.1 million
    • '21 Champions League Final viewers (Univision): 1.6 million
    • '21 Liga MX Final viewers (Univision): 3.0 million
    2021 Season Averages
    • MLS average viewership on ESPN and Fox: 355,000
    • EPL average viewership on NBC: 475,000
    • Liga MX average viewership on Univision: 845,000

    https://frontofficesports.com/liga-...t-opportunity-for-franchise-valuation-growth/
     
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  17. Kyle Crew

    Kyle Crew Member+

    Feb 23, 2013
    Columbus, Ohio
    Club:
    Columbus Crew
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    And everyone brace yourself, El Tri is followed more in the US than the US is.
     
  18. Smithsoccer1721

    Smithsoccer1721 Member+

    Feb 16, 2007
    Middle of the Table
    Club:
    Columbus Crew
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    Whats the current deal worth?
     
  19. Ch(Elsey)

    Ch(Elsey) Member+

    Columbus Crew
    United States
    May 2, 2003
    Green, Ohio
    Club:
    Columbus Crew
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
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  20. Minnman

    Minnman Member+

    Feb 11, 2000
    Columbus, OH, USA
    Club:
    Columbus Crew
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    This isn't exactly a shock to anyone who's been paying attention.
     
  21. Crew96Fan

    Crew96Fan Member+

    Jul 27, 2013
    Club:
    Columbus Crew
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    About $90 million
     
  22. Ueberjames

    Ueberjames Member+

    Columbus Crew
    Mar 28, 2009
    Stow, Ohio
    Club:
    Columbus Crew
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    Ah yes, Jimmy Hanlin.
     
  23. Kyle Crew

    Kyle Crew Member+

    Feb 23, 2013
    Columbus, Ohio
    Club:
    Columbus Crew
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    Official: ALL MLS games will be on Apple for 10 years, 2023 to 2033.

    All full season ticket holders will get the service for free.

    If you already subscribe to Apple TV+ you’re all set, it’s included.

    It’s $5 a month I think.
     
  24. Ch(Elsey)

    Ch(Elsey) Member+

    Columbus Crew
    United States
    May 2, 2003
    Green, Ohio
    Club:
    Columbus Crew
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    Wow.

    I am reading the press release. No local blackouts, right?
     
  25. Smithsoccer1721

    Smithsoccer1721 Member+

    Feb 16, 2007
    Middle of the Table
    Club:
    Columbus Crew
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    Wow! Basically off tv networks? Unless you are a streamer how do you find the games?
     
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