News: MLS TV deal with Apple

Discussion in 'New England Revolution' started by NFLPatriot, Jun 14, 2022.

  1. abecedarian

    abecedarian Member+

    Mar 25, 2009
    SSSomerville
    Club:
    New England Revolution
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    I don't know, call me a money-bloated plutocrat if you like, but I'm happy to pay $100 to get all the games. Heck, go to Foxboro once, and you'll pay that amount!

    Besides, if we as fans want the league to grow and prosper, we're unreasonable to ask them to provide their product to us for free.
     
  2. rkane1226

    rkane1226 Member+

    Apr 9, 2000
    Club:
    Stade Brestois 29
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    Will there be advertisements?

    You see, once upon a time, we got "free" television which did NOT require us to send recurring payments but did require us to sit through ads.

    Now we make recurring payments AND sit through ads.

    People call it "cord cutting" and seem to be super proud that they've achieved some sort of improvement.

    My position is that if I have to watch ads, then I'm already paying. I shouldn't have to pay twice.
     
  3. abecedarian

    abecedarian Member+

    Mar 25, 2009
    SSSomerville
    Club:
    New England Revolution
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    My experience streaming soccer is that I never see an ad unless I want to. And it's kind of the nature of soccer (unlike say American football) to be ad-free, at least during the actual game.

    Other kinds of content, you have a point. I once tried to watch a movie on YouTube TV, and had to give it up, because there were ads literally every five minutes.
     
  4. rkane1226

    rkane1226 Member+

    Apr 9, 2000
    Club:
    Stade Brestois 29
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    Well I won't lie. In an ads based world I used to find ways to avoid watching them. But your YouTube comment plus experience with Paramount+ and Peacock suggest that, in a cord-cut world, they can be pretty forceful on making you watch ads, particularly on replay.

    If Apple continues to leave each half alone (no cuts to ads), I agree I can watch a live game without the ads by doing something else at half time. But I can't watch all the games live and they can pretty much force me to suffer the delay of ads (even if I don't watch them) when I stream a "recorded" game.

    At any rate, I think the amount MLS will make has already been established. Setting the price and packaging is Apple trying to maximize profits, as they should since we live in a capitalist society. But I might walk away because the price of cord cutting is starting to be more significant than my old cable bill.
     
  5. BERich

    BERich Member+

    Feb 3, 2012
    New England
    Club:
    New England Revolution
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    I tend to concur with @rkan21226, you want to charge me and have me sit thru ads also. I don't know this to be the case, but it is consistent with all the other channels and it's apple, who loves their monopolies. I guess my biggest problem with all these "specialized" channels is the sales pitch...you'll get all the games. I don't want all the games, I want to watch the Revs. I'm old and don't have much of a life, but I also don't sit in front of the TV all day.

    I will decide in February if I will sign up or not. Right now I'm leaning toward not signing up. If I do sign up I'll wait a month before starting as a mini protest. It won't amount to anything, but in my mind, I'll think it mattered!
     
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  6. frankieg73

    frankieg73 Member

    New England Revolution
    Portugal
    Apr 8, 2001
    St. Petersburg, FL (not my choice)
    Club:
    New England Revolution
    Nat'l Team:
    Portugal
    I am NOT happy with these prices proposed by Apple. These prices are equivalent to the monthly prices we pay for entire streaming services that have thousands upon thousands of movies and TV episodes. ESPN+ is about half the price and we get so so so much more from that.

    Apple was already on my !@#$list and this just dropped them to a level I didn't think was possible.
     
  7. patfan1

    patfan1 Moderator
    Staff Member

    Aug 19, 1999
    Nashua, NH
    Club:
    New England Revolution
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    ESPN+ is moving to $100 for a year. If it wasn't mentioned here yet, Apple TV seems to be going after the NFL as well.
     
  8. BrianLBI

    BrianLBI BigSoccer Supporter

    Sep 7, 2002
    New Hampshire
    Club:
    New England Revolution
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    I will miss ESPN+, especially La Liga, and the non-prem English coverage. But the blackout of Revs matches impacted me much more than I anticipated. $79/year and no blackouts - I’m probably going to give it a shot. I’m ever so slightly miffed that my partial season pass to the revs doesn’t give me a discount!
     
  9. patfan1

    patfan1 Moderator
    Staff Member

    Aug 19, 1999
    Nashua, NH
    Club:
    New England Revolution
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    I was thinking about getting rid of ESPN+, but considering small colleges like mine have basketball games on TV, college hockey on TV, and even the cricket World Cup was on ... it's worth it to me. But I get it. I wasn't one of the cord cutters, and I'm glad because so much is still included. That NESN package is laughable.
     
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  10. BERich

    BERich Member+

    Feb 3, 2012
    New England
    Club:
    New England Revolution
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    I currently use Fubo TV so I can get NESN and watch the Red Sox and Bruins - what an unbelievable start by the Bruins! I also subscribe to ESPN+ (I have already paid at the $100 per year cost) and Disney+ ($85/year). So I thought I could save some money by getting rid of Fubo and getting Hulu+; then I can get NESN 360. Ha, $30 per month for NESN. Who came up with that pricing, that's ridiculous!
     
  11. tsb11

    tsb11 Member+

    United States
    May 31, 2018
    I thought Charlie was the weak link on the CBS Sports desk. Clint was way more personable and guch was a much more compelling analyst. I'd have much rather had Mo Edu round out that group
     
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  12. NFLPatriot

    NFLPatriot Member+

    Jun 25, 2002
    Foxboro, MA
    Club:
    New England Revolution
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    Linear TV deal goes to FOX:

    MLS on linear TV: FOX Sports, TelevisaUnivision, TSN & RDS reach multi-year deals
    By MLSsoccer staff
    Tuesday, Dec 13, 2022, 11:59 AM

    Also of note:

     
  13. teskicks

    teskicks Member+

    New England Revolution
    United States
    Jan 14, 2002
    Wrentham, MA
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    I can't imagine how hard it is to build a professional sports league schedule. I used to work on software that did High School scheduling and that was tough but there are so many more variables at play.
     
  14. Minutemanii

    Minutemanii Member+

    Dec 29, 2005
    Abington MA
    Club:
    New England Revolution
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    I already have Apple TV in my cable package. Will I still have to pay a fee for MLS? Also I heard that Rev's season members automatically get MLS coverage. Lastly, is this across all devices? Asking for a Boomer friend.
     
  15. NFLPatriot

    NFLPatriot Member+

    Jun 25, 2002
    Foxboro, MA
    Club:
    New England Revolution
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    There are 3 levels (4 if you include FOX):
    Apple TV - free channel, will have some games (40%?)
    Apple TV+ - subscription service, will have additional games
    Apple TV MLS Season Pass - subscription service (Apple TV+ subscription not required) - 100% of games

    Season members get one subscription to MLS Season Pass (per account, not per ticket).

    Apple TV app won't load to an Android, but you can still access it through a browser app.
     
  16. Minutemanii

    Minutemanii Member+

    Dec 29, 2005
    Abington MA
    Club:
    New England Revolution
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    Thank you!
     
  17. rkupp

    rkupp Member+

    Jan 3, 2001
    Do you know if this gives you all the AppleTV stuff, or just the MLS offerings?
     
  18. NFLPatriot

    NFLPatriot Member+

    Jun 25, 2002
    Foxboro, MA
    Club:
    New England Revolution
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    The subscriptions are separate, but if you already subscribe to Apple TV+, you get a discount ($2/mo or $20/yr) when adding MLS Season Pass.
     
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  19. rkane1226

    rkane1226 Member+

    Apr 9, 2000
    Club:
    Stade Brestois 29
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    You get a $2/mo discount, NOW THAT THEY JUST RAISED the monthly fee by $2....

    It's nice to get a discount but a 40% increase in the subscription!?
     
  20. rkane1226

    rkane1226 Member+

    Apr 9, 2000
    Club:
    Stade Brestois 29
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    If you have Apple TV+ they JUST increased your monthly price by $2 so it seems very much like a slight of hand. That said, I think it is $79/season if you pay all up front. Using 10 months for the season that seems like the best deal at about $7.90/month. I wish I could save another $2/$20 by choosing to ONLY get REV games + the playoffs. While I’ll have total access on paper, I won’t really have the time to watch much more than the REV games.

    Back to monthly fees: for grins and giggles I pulled up the menu on my YouTubeTV for some comparisons.

    NBA League Pass - $14.99/month or $69/season
    Sports Plus Pkg - 10.99/month $79.99/year (11 stations but really only NFL RedZone and BeIN Sports look at all interesting)

    MLS has come a long way in the last several years but they seem to be setting their value a touch high here.
     
  21. Minutemanii

    Minutemanii Member+

    Dec 29, 2005
    Abington MA
    Club:
    New England Revolution
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    I am a STH, so how exactly does it work? Does my Ticket Rep provide me with a passcode?
     
  22. Revs In First :)

    Aug 15, 2001
    Club:
    New England Revolution
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    Not sure, waiting for more info, but I assume it will be something like that.
     
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  23. patfan1

    patfan1 Moderator
    Staff Member

    Aug 19, 1999
    Nashua, NH
    Club:
    New England Revolution
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    Twellman moved over to Apple, after leaving ESPN.

    Also, here's the list of announcers they will be using.
     
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  24. rkane1226

    rkane1226 Member+

    Apr 9, 2000
    Club:
    Stade Brestois 29
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    Did he have a relegation clause? Or is ESPN cleaning house since they are losing MLS, USMNT and, I assume USWNT?

    I only skimmed the link but will Apple be offering the content ESPN used to provide in terms of podcasts and soccer specific shows?

    Finally, I was disappointed not to see Craig Burly (or however it is spelled) on that list of announcers. I was so hoping I could listen to him bash all American players on a regular basis.

    And I don’t think I saw Brad?
     
  25. NFLPatriot

    NFLPatriot Member+

    Jun 25, 2002
    Foxboro, MA
    Club:
    New England Revolution
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    It seems Apple is all-in on this, so I assume there will be equivalent level of content, if not more.
    For example, ExtraTime Radio podcast, which used to be on mlssoccer.com and YouTube, is now (as of Jan 5th) only on Apple Podcasts.

    Brad and Charlie are not on the list, but the list is only a partial one. They are still negotiating with others.
     

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