MLS Turns Down Offer for Cooper

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  1. 3rd Degree

    3rd Degree Member

    Feb 6, 2000
    Dallas
    Club:
    FC Dallas
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    MLS Turns Down Offer for Cooper
    June 22nd, 2008 . By: Buzz Carrick
    http://www.3rddegree.net/
     
  2. Northside Rovers

    Jan 28, 2000
    Austin TX
    Club:
    FC Dallas
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    Lets hope that means we have every intent to re-sign him when his contract is up and not let him go on a free or trade him for a draft pick and some cash.
     
  3. Kermmy803

    Kermmy803 Member

    Jul 10, 2002
    Denton County, TX
    Club:
    FC Dallas
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    IIRC, this is the last non-option year on KCJ's contract, correct?

    I would expect him to be gone after this season anyway, especially in light of the fact that it has been stated he is not particularly pleased with his current contract.

    Knowing MLS, they will hold him hostage for the 2 option years left on his contract and then let him go on a free w/o any compensation. :(
     
  4. profiled

    profiled Moderator
    Staff Member

    Feb 7, 2000
    slightly north of a mile high
    Club:
    Los Angeles Galaxy
    Would you rather have 2 more years of Cooper, or make what about 500k in allocation money?
     
  5. Kermmy803

    Kermmy803 Member

    Jul 10, 2002
    Denton County, TX
    Club:
    FC Dallas
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    I would love for Coop to stay, but in all honesty, it time for him to move up in class, IMO.

    Playing, and scoring goals, for FCD isn't doing anything to increase his value as noted by the current NT coach. :rolleyes:
     
  6. Vasco

    Vasco New Member

    Jun 8, 2003
    RIO
    Club:
    DC United
    Nat'l Team:
    Brazil
    kenny is an important member of the team.

    I would like to see him stay in mls too, and build an national team rep

    a million sounds low for kenny a guy with euro experience already.
     
  7. MjrGrubert

    MjrGrubert BigSoccer Supporter

    May 22, 2003
    Whitefish, MT
    Club:
    FC Dallas
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    I really hope KCJ sticks around for a long time. He is uniquely situated to become a real Dallas sports icon. That being said it seems the way that management seems to have treated him means it is likely he will leave sometime maye next year (a year before his last contractual obiligation I think)?
    If the third party valuations for him are only in the $1m range that seems surprising to me but maybe he is not as valuable as we think and hope? Compare that to Jozy,Demps,EJ etc.
    I wonder what was and is his relationship with SH? He bolted after signing up to SMU didn't he? Obviously that will factor in KCJs plans.
    Managment will have missed a golden opportunity to build the team/brand if they stupidly do not secure his services for the intermeadiate future for a few hundred grand here or there. Wonder will they will do?
     
  8. FC Uptown

    FC Uptown New Member

    Feb 3, 2006
    H-town
    Cooper has Dempsey's old agent; all signs point to Europe.
     
  9. SeventhRowScreamer

    Jan 26, 2007
    Club:
    FC Dallas
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    If FCD's FO had the foresight to re-sign Coop then they would've already done it and used the DP on him. If you notice, the offer and the rejection already put him way out in DP land.

    Dallas will lose another reason to keep me and my family around. It's ok if you know how to use players, you know how to treat players while they're here, know how to win with players while they are here and then sell them. It's not ok to waste every one of those and then sell.

    PSV and Ajax have done it for years.

    Shame on FCD.

    I thought next year is FCD's last option year on Kenny.
     
  10. oscar_in_fw

    oscar_in_fw Member+

    Jul 24, 2007
    Kansas City
    Club:
    FC Dallas
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    I was a tad bit depressed watching the Euros this weekend in contrast to watching FC Dallas and USA-Barbados. The quality of play in Europe seems just so much higher. The only positive I've seen is it seems more European clubs are seemingly more willing to take a chance on up and coming USA talents, especially since MLS cannot afford to pay our best talent what they are probably worth in Europe.

    So where does that leave MLS ? We can't keep our best players around because they are good enough to play in Europe and MLS can't afford to pay what they are worth. And we have serious problems attracting fans; which is probably exacerbated by the inability to keep our best native talent. Cooper being "courted" by European teams is just one example.
     
  11. FC Dizzle

    FC Dizzle Member

    Mar 10, 2006
    Dallas, TX
    look. I think kenny is easily the best player on this team. but hes not a DP. sorry
     
  12. chazsoccer

    chazsoccer Member

    Nov 22, 1999
    Republic of Texas
    Club:
    FC Dallas
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    hmm, what do you think he is worth? Relative only to the current players at FCD (forget about actual $$ amounts) In your opinion, who should be the top 5 or 10 players at FCD in terms of how much they are paid?

    Make a list in order, first name gets paid the most.

    According to the CBA salary list leaked earlier this year, the top players, in order, are:
    Duilio Davino, Arturo Alvarez, Juan Toja, Dario Sala, Pablo Ricchetti, Adrian Serioux, Anthony Wallace, Kenny Cooper, Drew Moor, Marcelo Saragosa
     
  13. SeventhRowScreamer

    Jan 26, 2007
    Club:
    FC Dallas
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    you're correct. he's better than a DP. he's young, american and scores lots of goals. I can only think of two DPs that have scored more. The only reason he'd cost DP money now is due to FCIdiot not restructuring his contract on the heels of his 11 goal season. Oh well. F me for giving Hitch and the boys any money to waste. I'm part of the problem too.
    I hope Hyndman can get golden boot winners out of rookies because good players aren't valued as players in this league. They're only seen as product to be sold. Unnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnless of course you're a 32 year old that led a league in scoring in 1998. Now that's the kind of guy we need!:rolleyes:
     
  14. theodore

    theodore Member

    Nov 7, 2003
    We started the off season talking about the market for strikers being overly inflated. I don't see it improving any time soon.
     
  15. FCDallas96

    FCDallas96 Member

    Aug 12, 2004
    Dallas
    Club:
    Manchester United FC
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    Forwards should be your top earners on any team because proven goal scorers are the hardest players to find. The fact that Cooper is so far down on that list is an insult to his ability. Leave it to FCD to over pay defenders and defensive midfielders while giving the finger to it's only goal scoring forward. I'm sure Cooper is disillusioned to learn that 16 year old kids like Abdus Ibrahim are making more money than him and they have yet to kick a ball in ager in MLS. I say sell him now to pay him back for the years he has been underpaid while paying for this team.
     
  16. Hitman

    Hitman Member+

    Mar 31, 1999
    The issue is all about money..

    The reality is that many of these US players are going to leagues that are not as high a quality as MLS... Not that MLS is a "top league", but the Norwegian 1st division ain't "all that", and the 2nd division is probably equal to the USL on a good day.

    And that is MLS' inherent problem. There are quality players in the US that are in their teens that would make killer MLS picks to grow, but many of them have zero intention to play in MLS. They know that if soccer is their career, Europe is their destination. Even if it means going to one of the lower leagues, the money is better.
     
  17. Stumptown Texan

    Stumptown Texan New Member

    Mar 10, 2005
    PDX
    Sad but true. The kids coming into the league now are becoming more and more sophisticated about how the world of professional soccer works. If MLS continues to low-ball it's talented players salary-wise, there will be third-tier Euro-league teams that will be more-than-willing to pick up that talent for a relative song (in their terms at least).
     
  18. FCDallas96

    FCDallas96 Member

    Aug 12, 2004
    Dallas
    Club:
    Manchester United FC
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    I need to make one correction to your statement.
     
  19. Stumptown Texan

    Stumptown Texan New Member

    Mar 10, 2005
    PDX
  20. SeventhRowScreamer

    Jan 26, 2007
    Club:
    FC Dallas
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    It's not MLS's "inherent problem" it's their inherent socialist stupid organization's choice.
     
  21. ttujosh

    ttujosh Member

    Mar 9, 2003
    Dallas, Tx
    whoa. I think Cooper is good, but the way the league works right now, there is no way I pay him DP money. He should be the highest paid player on the team for sure, but to be honest I think a DP player has to have that something extra special to earn that money. I would say right now, only two of them have that, Blanco and Beckham. Angel is a fantastic player, and probably worth the money, but he doesn't draw more fans, and is hurt a bit much. Cooper should get as much as say Twellman, but I don't think too many fans over there are clamoring for him to be a DP. He is older yes, but has shown consistently to be a top scorer in this league.
     
  22. SeventhRowScreamer

    Jan 26, 2007
    Club:
    FC Dallas
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    you're right on not paying him DP money. We should have him tied up in a $375k contract from two seasons ago. Maybe he would've signed for 5 years at that value. That "something extra" is a skin on the wall from 1998. Compare Twellman to Kreis and not to Cooper. Why does he have to go back to Europe to earn your approval?
     
  23. england66

    england66 Member+

    Jan 6, 2004
    dallas, texas
    Correct on both counts.
     
  24. england66

    england66 Member+

    Jan 6, 2004
    dallas, texas

    Wrong. I seem to recall a Norwegian team drawing 1-1 vs Chelsea at Stanford Bridge this past Champions League season....think ANY team in MLS could come close to that..??
     
  25. england66

    england66 Member+

    Jan 6, 2004
    dallas, texas

    Blanco was fcuking useless last week vs FCD....I was watching the game with one of Manchester United's top scouts (he's been with them 20 years) he didn't believe Blanco could play in ANY of the top 5 divisions in England and LHFAO when I told him the guy made north of $2m in MLS.
     

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