MLS Trades

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  1. NFLPatriot

    NFLPatriot Member+

    Jun 25, 2002
    Foxboro, MA
    Club:
    New England Revolution
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    One thing that always bugged me about the Nicol era was the lack of player trades. There were a few over the years, but not many compared to the rest of the league. To me, the inability to make a trade suggests that you overvalue your players.

    I thought that would be one of the differences marking the Heaps era, but so far, not.

    I keep track of MLS transactions (sorry, I'm insane), and looking back discovered the following:

    Since the season began in March, there have been 17 trades involving players, with 13 different MLS teams participating.

    Going back to the end of last season (when Heaps took over), and there have been 39 trades within MLS (again, leaving out the ones that didn't involve players). That brought the number of teams taking part in trades up to 17, all but two: Columbus and New England.

    Code:
    MLS Trades in 2011-2012
    
    July 
    1. Quincy Amarikwa, NRB -> TOR
    2. Eric Hassli, VAN -> TOR
    3. Tyson Wahl, MON -> COL
    4. Dane Richards, NRB -> VAN
       Sebastien LeToux, VAN -> NRB
    5. Bill Gaudette, LAG -> NRB
    6. Andrew Wiedeman, DAL -> TOR
       Julian De Guzman, TOR -> DAL
    7. Justin Braun, MON -> RSL
    8. Bobby Burling, MON -> CDC
    9. Kosuke Kimura, COL -> POR
    June
    10. Long Tan, VAN -> DCU
    11. Kwame Watson-Siriboe, CHI -> RSL
    12. Danny Mwanga, PHI -> POR
        Jorge Perlaza, POR -> PHI
    May
    13. Michael Lahoud, CDC -> PHI
        Danny Califf, PHI -> CDC
    14. Heath Pearce, CDC -> NRB
        Juan Agudelo, NRB -> CDC
    April
    15. Mike Fucito, POR -> MON
    16. Chris Estridge, VAN -> RSL
    17. Paolo Cardozo, LAG -> CDC
        David Junior Lopes, CDC -> LAG
    Feb
    18. Eddie Johnson, MON -> SEA
        Mike Fucito, SEA -> MON
        Lamar Neagle, SEA -> MON
    19. Brian Ching, MON -> HOU
    20. Mac Kandji, COL -> HOU
    21. Kyle Nakazawa, PHI -> LAG
    Jan
    22. Sebastien Le Toux, PHI -> VAN
    23. Wilman Conde, CHI -> NRB
    24. Danny Cruz, HOU -> DCU
    25. Kenny Cooper, POR -> NRB
    Dec
    26. Nathan Sturgis, TOR -> HOU
    27. Marvin Chavez, DAL -> SJE
    28. Jay Nolly, VAN -> CHI
    29. Bobby Convey, SJE -> SKC
    30. Jean Alexandre, RSL -> SJE
    Nov.
    31. Shea Salinas, VAN -> SJE
    32. Jeremy Hall, DAL -> TOR
    33. Robbie Russell, RSL -> DCU
    34. Donovan Ricketts, LAG -> MON
    35. Seth Sinovic, MON -> SKC
        Davy Arnaud, SKC -> MON
    36. Paulo Nagamura, CDC -> SKC
    37. Justin Braun, CDC -> MON
        Gerson Mayen, CDC -> MON
        James Riley, MON -> CDC
    38. Tyson Wahl, SEA -> MON
    39. Ryan Smith, SKC -> CDC
    
     
  2. cml1394

    cml1394 Member

    Apr 5, 2010
    Club:
    New England Revolution
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    It could also mean nobody's interested in players they could realistically trade for (I doubt we would trade Benny, Diego, Rowe/Nguyen/Sene/Cardenas are all in their first year and playing at least reasonably reasonably well, Soares, and probably Shalrie unfortunately). From those who are left, who the hell would want to trade for them? Simms has played well but the fact the entire rest of the league passed on him at the beginning of this year means he's undervalued by others, our defenders are all shaky and some are downright bad, and nobody in their right mind would trade for Nyassi/Boggs/everyone left except Polak, who I don't know if just needs time to adjust to pro's or isn't as good as people thought.
     
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  3. Crooked

    Crooked Member+

    May 1, 2005
    Club:
    New England Revolution
    Valid, but I'm pretty sure that most MLS trades are centered around draft picks, allocation money, allocation spots, etc. (I have no statistical evidence of this, but I'm sure that NFLPatriot does).

    I personally have always thought that the MLS trade market was a place where teams could get great value and really exploit other teams. There are a lot of decent players (depth/role players mainly) on that list who were had for nothing more than mid level draft picks and allocation money. Unfortunately the only trade in recent memory was an absolute bust for the Revs, getting absolutely hosed by Colorado.
     
  4. patfan1

    patfan1 Moderator
    Staff Member

    Aug 19, 1999
    Nashua, NH
    Club:
    New England Revolution
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    That can't be ... Doc said we won that trade. ;)
     
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  5. Crooked

    Crooked Member+

    May 1, 2005
    Club:
    New England Revolution
    But Larentowicz really forced our hand. We had no option but to trade him. :rolleyes:
     
  6. cml1394

    cml1394 Member

    Apr 5, 2010
    Club:
    New England Revolution
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    Also a good point, hopefully a Nat/ex-Nat will return soon so we either get him or finally make a trade and get some of the things you mentioned.
     
  7. NFLPatriot

    NFLPatriot Member+

    Jun 25, 2002
    Foxboro, MA
    Club:
    New England Revolution
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    Well, if you look at the list I posted above, only 9 of the 39 trades had players going in both directions, which I think supports your assertion.
     
  8. NER_MCFC

    NER_MCFC Member

    May 23, 2001
    Cambridge, MA
    Club:
    New England Revolution
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    Clinging to imagined slights from two or three years ago isn't just a hobby around here is it?
     
  9. Crooked

    Crooked Member+

    May 1, 2005
    Club:
    New England Revolution
    Imagined? Ha.
     
  10. patfan1

    patfan1 Moderator
    Staff Member

    Aug 19, 1999
    Nashua, NH
    Club:
    New England Revolution
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    As opposed to having imagined slights about imagined slights?

    See the little winky face on my post ... it was a joke.
     
  11. ToMhIlL

    ToMhIlL Member+

    Feb 18, 1999
    Boxborough, MA
    Club:
    New England Revolution
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    The thing about trading within the league is to identify the kinds of players you think would do well in your own "system" even if they are not at their full potential where they are. This could be for a number of reasons such as a top player in the same position limiting their minutes, wrong kind of role for that player's skillset, or anything else.

    Some teams are good at scouting within the league. Sometimes we gnash our teeth about the Revs scouting in foregin locales, but it is just as important to have a full-time person who does nothing more than closely follow the leauge. Not only for potential trade purposes, but also the advance scout of opponents in the next few weeks to get a sense of who is playing where, how they are playing, and how we could match up with them and find a way to beat them.

    Now I have no real idea of what the Revs do in this area, since it is a bit of a "behind the scenes" task, but if they don't put a lot of emphasis on scouting within the league, I can see why they might not have certain "hidden gems" in mind that they could pry away from another team for next to nothing.
     

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