MLS to Vegas....problematic?

Discussion in 'MLS: News & Analysis' started by wcharriscpa, May 10, 2007.

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  1. wcharriscpa

    wcharriscpa Member

    Arsenal FC
    Dec 26, 2000
    Austin
    Club:
    Arsenal FC
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    Major league team and sports complex envisioned by 2010

    Is this just a case of "beggars can't be choosers?" Obviously, there are (potential?) issues with pro sports teams locating in Sin City. Maybe Garber has ways of mitigating those concerns...but there are issues.
     
  2. GoDC

    GoDC Member

    Nov 23, 1999
    Hamilton, VA
    Just because gambling is legal in Vegas is no reason to keep teams out of there. Bookies are everywhere and the thought that there is no gambling on the Yankees in New York or the Bears iN Chicago or all other examples is just nuts. If they have the money and build a stadium then I say yes.
     
  3. lawrenceterp

    lawrenceterp Moderator
    Staff Member

    Sep 2, 2006
    Virginia
    This would make me incredibly happy. I really think this is a perfect market to move into. The population is growing so fast that it will be a top 25 market within 15 years and there are no competing major league teams. Hell....the college teams aren't even that popular. If one of the casino owners got behind this, we're looking at a very wealthy owner who'd love to spend money on bringing in players. My only stipulation is that they have to be called Club Vegas. It can't get any better then that.
     
  4. monster

    monster Member

    Oct 19, 1999
    Hanover, PA
    Club:
    DC United
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    The only problem is that my wife would probably have an issue with me wanting to go see LV vs. the Rapids when I'm a fan of neither team.
     
  5. texgator

    texgator New Member

    Oct 28, 2003
    Plano
    Yeah, I don't understand why geography automatically removes the possibility of conflict of interest or gambling issues. There have been point fixing scandals at mutliple NCAA schools all over the country....not just UNLV. The amount of money placed on MLS matches in a given weekend is so tiny it isn't even close to worth the potential criminal charges for fixing games. It'd be like risking Federal prison to fix your friend's Super Bowl pool.
     
  6. GoDC

    GoDC Member

    Nov 23, 1999
    Hamilton, VA
    But if you buy the season tickets then she has to let you go.
     
  7. crewfighter

    crewfighter New Member

    Feb 15, 2006
    Claddagh's Roof
    Club:
    Columbus Crew
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    Las Vegas would be nice. Lots of wealthy people, lots of prespective owners with lots of money as well. Seeing stories like this and expansion in San Diego makes me very happy. These are groups asking MLS to give them a franchise or at least are looking into it. That means MLS is succeeding.
     
  8. Smithsoccer1721

    Smithsoccer1721 Member+

    Feb 16, 2007
    Middle of the Table
    Club:
    Columbus Crew
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    If the owners are willing to have a SSS built and are comitted to the long term success of MLS then I dont see why not. I also love the idea that no other pro sports team is already in the city so if MLS gets in first we can hopefully grab the enitial fan base and create life long fans before or if ever another sports team comes to town. The organization might have to be a little more watchful of its players but I dont think the gambling would create major concerns for a MLS franchise.
     
  9. lawrenceterp

    lawrenceterp Moderator
    Staff Member

    Sep 2, 2006
    Virginia
    This has me so excited. I've been posting about Vegas for almost a year. I'm think I'm gonna cry if this doesn't happen now.
     
  10. Fanaddict

    Fanaddict Member+

    Mar 9, 2000
    streamwood IL USA
    Club:
    Chicago Fire
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    LasVegas has some problems. A lot of the population works evenings at casinos.Even with a retractable roof it doesn't solve problem as day games don't draw and Vegas has never shown it will support a sports team in the numbers MLS needs.
     
  11. superdave

    superdave Member+

    Jul 14, 1999
    VB, VA
    Club:
    DC United
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    Retractable roof?!?!? Holy shit.

    Man, those'll be the only preseason club friendlies international stars BEG to go to.

    If they can afford the stadium, that place should be a gold mine. It should be the most used professional soccer field in the US. Imagine every January inviting a team from the leagues that are off for a friendly tournament...Ajax, Dynamo Kiev, CSKA Moscow, Borussia Dortmund.
     
  12. GoDC

    GoDC Member

    Nov 23, 1999
    Hamilton, VA

    Retractable roof covers the heat issue. It is up to the owners to get fans there but 2 hours in a stadium that is attached to a casino?? I think it could work.
     
  13. lawrenceterp

    lawrenceterp Moderator
    Staff Member

    Sep 2, 2006
    Virginia
    A retractable roof will be built. They'll have the money to make this stadium to most ridiculous stadium in the world. And they'll do it too. Everything in Vegas is done bigger, better and flashier then anywhere else in the world. You're right about some of the population working at night, but you're forgetting about how fast that city is growing. I believe it's the fatest in the country. There is a lot of business going on over there that has nothing to do with the casinos. I really don't think that's going to be a huge problem.
     
  14. monster

    monster Member

    Oct 19, 1999
    Hanover, PA
    Club:
    DC United
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    Every place has some problems. The thing about Vegas is that the tourism trade is their 24/7/365 and is very international. That doesn't even get into the fact that every team would likely have traveling support. That wouldn't sell out the place, but it is an angle other MLS cities really don't have.

    And the corporate sales could be through the roof, especially if Beckham is still around and/or some comparably marketed player is in the league if/when Vegas gets a team.

    Of course people will bitch that X number of seats are filled by people who were comped tickets, but that's another issue. :D
     
  15. MasterShake29

    MasterShake29 Member+

    Oct 28, 2001
    Jersey City, NJ
    Club:
    New York Red Bulls
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    If being attached to a casino works for the Connecticut Sun (WNBA), then why not for MLS? :)

    If they can solve the being in the middle of a desert issue, then why not? The EPL advertises betting on the very game your watching, so somehow I think MLS could survive.
     
  16. uclacarlos

    uclacarlos Member+

    Aug 10, 2003
    east coast
    Club:
    FC Barcelona
    Nat'l Team:
    Spain
    Pablo Mastroeni is a legend for the USMNT, and um... Herculez Gomez is on the nats radar.

    Beckerman, BECKERMAN!!!... c'mon!! Beckerman is sooooo going to be on the USMNT. And then there's Ugo.

    Catch my drift? ;)
     
  17. superdave

    superdave Member+

    Jul 14, 1999
    VB, VA
    Club:
    DC United
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    Seriously, they'll probably comp tickets to high rollers. It'll get more away support than any matches except the LA derbies. And LV is so huge now that while many people work at night, all the people that teach their kids and clean their teeth and manage the grocery stores they shop at will be a big enough fan base.

    Further...UNLV packs 'em in when the team is good.

    EDIT: Monster beat me to many of my points. I hate it when work interferes with posting.
     
  18. monster

    monster Member

    Oct 19, 1999
    Hanover, PA
    Club:
    DC United
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    Oooooh. I met Beckerman's brother and parents when he was a kid and I was reffing wrestling. We need to catch up.

    :D
     
  19. texgator

    texgator New Member

    Oct 28, 2003
    Plano
    The only problem I see is that it hasn't happened sooner. I think someone on the other LV thread said it perfectly. Best venue for MLS Cup EVER!!
     
  20. texgator

    texgator New Member

    Oct 28, 2003
    Plano
    You should have reffed the Sala v Beckerman bout a few months ago.
     
  21. monster

    monster Member

    Oct 19, 1999
    Hanover, PA
    Club:
    DC United
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    Just don't tell Pacman.
     
  22. Mountainia

    Mountainia Member

    Jun 19, 2002
    Section 207, Row 7
    Club:
    DC United
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    I cant see visitors to LV attending MLS games. Sure, the away MLS fans would be more inclined to go on a road trip to Vegas, so that gets a few per game.

    I don't know much about the LV population's interest in Soccer. That would be key if I were the prospective owner. Why not try a few exhibition games? (Has this happened already?)
     
  23. Ikari

    Ikari Member

    Jun 11, 2003
    Las Vegas, NV
    *dances* Oh man if this comes true I'll buy season tickets for the team until the day I freaking die! My god think of the rivalry and atmosphere of matches! LV vs LAG, LV vs CUSA, LV vs RSL. All teams with a fanbase 4-6 hours away by road, and cheap flights to boot.

    Whoever does this needs to get a good number of casino owners to support the project. Get them behind the team and the government here will bend over backwards to make it happen.
     
  24. lawrenceterp

    lawrenceterp Moderator
    Staff Member

    Sep 2, 2006
    Virginia
    They'll get their own Beckham. You can bank on it. We're talking Ronaldhino level signing here. At least one player of that calibre. I'm telling you, everything done in Vegas is meant to be on a larger scale then anywhere else in the world. This is gonna be no different.

    And who cares if the a lot of fans there are on comps. Comps are given out in casinos for a reason. They're making more money off the people then what they give out. So those tickets are paid for, just not directly. I think it's a beautiful thing. People's gambling money is going to pay for the soccer team.
     
  25. monster

    monster Member

    Oct 19, 1999
    Hanover, PA
    Club:
    DC United
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    [tangent]

    His brother was amazing. He was a two-time All-American at Nebraska and was one of the most talented kids I have ever seen in high school (and I covered PA wrestling for a while so I think I have a good basis of comparison). Todd was unreal.

    I never saw Kyle wrestle, but people I knew and trusted said if he had decided to commit to wrestling instead of soccer, he might have been better than Todd because of his mean streak. [/tangent]
     

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