MLS to make new tourney with Mexico?

Discussion in 'MLS: General' started by lond2345, May 6, 2004.

  1. lond2345

    lond2345 Member

    Aug 19, 2002
    USA
    http://www.esmas.com/deportes/futbol/362086.html (in spanish)

    "Víctor Garcés, presidente de la Rama de la Primera División, anunció que se estudia junto con la Federación de Futbol de Estados Unidos la posibilidad de jugar una "Liga Premier" entre clubes de estos países para fortalecer la Liga Mayor de Futbol (MLS)."

    Both federations are studying the possibility to play a "premier league" between clubs of the two countries to make MLS stronger.

    what do you make of this?
     
  2. FlashMan

    FlashMan Member

    Jan 6, 2000
    'diego
    Club:
    --other--
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    this has been rumored before.

    i can't imagine them pulling it off, but what do i know...
     
  3. pupusa3000

    pupusa3000 Member

    May 15, 2001
    East Bay Area
    Interesting, but why would the MFL want to make MLS stronger? It seems it would be in the best interest of both leagues to be better than the other and not try to make the opposite stronger.
     
  4. christopher d

    christopher d New Member

    Jun 11, 2002
    Weehawken, NJ
    It is in Mexico's interest to help the MLS develop because strong rivalries between clubs in each country helps build passion, which helps put rear-ends in seats.

    IMHO, the US-Mexico rivalry is one of the best things to happen to either country's soccer federation. They are now trying to extend this to the clubs.
     
  5. Przybylinski

    Przybylinski New Member

    Apr 28, 2004
    Smallville
    Club:
    Arsenal FC
    Nat'l Team:
    Brazil
    It would be great if the MLS had a tournement with the Mexican league. It would generate more income and interest for the league. I have a feeling that there would be more fans for the Mexican teams playing in the US, but it would make the games more interesting. I love going to games in England because there are always a load of rival fans at the games singing a getting things going. I know they are all penned up in the corners, but it's still a blast. Brazil is pretty wild as well.

    I say get it going.
     
  6. metrocorazon

    metrocorazon Member

    May 14, 2000
    With MLS joining InterLiga in a few years, there will be no need for this.
     
  7. AMEPUNKANIST

    AMEPUNKANIST Member+

    Dec 16, 2003
    Club:
    America Propria
    Why is MLS going to join Interliga?
     
  8. FlashMan

    FlashMan Member

    Jan 6, 2000
    'diego
    Club:
    --other--
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    Since SUM controls the marketing rights (and other rights?) to the InterLiga tourney to get into the Copa Libertadores, it has been widely speculated - and even mentioned by Garber if I'm not mistaken - that MLS teams would sometime in the near future be invited to the InterLiga.
     
  9. I believe that CONMEBOL has something to say about it.
     
  10. FlashMan

    FlashMan Member

    Jan 6, 2000
    'diego
    Club:
    --other--
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    yes, no doubt. sorry if that wasn't implied in my post.

    and it's probably why it didn't happen last january (amongst other logistical difficulties).
     
  11. lond2345

    lond2345 Member

    Aug 19, 2002
    USA
    1 reason, MONEY!

    MFL only cares about the money. They make a lot of money having mfl teams play friendlies here, they get great attendance everytime they show up. Since the Mexican federation and MLS seem to be such good friends, mls has asked the MFL to help them out. Some of you mentioned the Interliga. What I think will happen is that we will have another tournament like that between MLS/MFL teams. I don't know if MLS will use the results of the tournament in its official standings (a possibility that had been mentioned before). It will probably be done for the reason to help mls get noticed more by hispanic crowds while at the same time it makes money for both.

    the interliga was a huge success, so the MFL is probably more than happy to have another tournament here. A lot of the fans that go see mfl teams don't usually go to mls games so this will get them to see them play.
     
  12. billward

    billward Member

    Oct 22, 2002
    El Cerrito, CA
    Club:
    San Jose Earthquakes
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    MFL is clearly interested in money. When they play games in the USA they draw a big hispanic crowd, but few non-hispanics. By playing against MLS teams, they can draw a wider American audience. So helping MLS helps them too.
     
  13. MasterShake29

    MasterShake29 Member+

    Oct 28, 2001
    Jersey City, NJ
    Club:
    New York Red Bulls
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    Why not just expand and (gasp) promote the CONCACAF Champions Cup?
     
  14. Lithium858

    Lithium858 Member

    Aug 11, 2002
    Baton Rouge
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    Why did they cut the teams allowed in half anyway?
     
  15. Brownswan

    Brownswan New Member

    Jun 30, 1999
    Port St. Lucie, FL
    I might answer that with another question. Have you noticed the full stadiums and excitement that is part of any match between the US and Mexico? If the intense rivalry that accompanies the national team matches can be transferred to the club team matches, football on both sides of the border will benefit -- and MLS will have an extra dimension to add to the US sports scene.

    The MLS AllStar-Chivas match had the edge and excitement that MLS needs on a regluar basis. And strong competition is needed to make us better; it's almost like expanding the league, too.

    Now, if only something could be done to promote the Open Cup. A million dollar prize for the winning team, for example. That's something even the main stream sports writers can understand.
     
  16. Andy_B

    Andy_B Member+

    Feb 2, 1999
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    I tend to be on the conservative side when it comes to "gimmicks" or anything out of the norm in terms of seeing MLS grow, but there is something about an MFL/MLS Super League if you will that greatly interests me.

    You could even arrange it like the NFL does, with one conference in the US and one in Mexico. The majority of your games would be against your own conference with more than enough non conference games to make things interesting from a TV and ticket buying perspective.

    Have the playoffs be within the conference and then create a home and home championship that will always be between a US based club and a mexican based club.

    The logistics of making this work are probably impossible, but it is in very interesting nonetheless.

    Andy
     
  17. nyrmetros

    nyrmetros Member

    Feb 7, 2004
    This rumor keeps popping up. The Rio Grande Cup would supposedly involve 4 teams from MLS and 4 teams from MFL in a round robin type tournament to determine the winner. I heard this rumor last summer, and the summer before that. Maybe it will finally become a reality? But then again, I would rather see the Concacaf Champion's Cup become the pre-eminent inter country club competition in North America . IMO
     
  18. MasterShake29

    MasterShake29 Member+

    Oct 28, 2001
    Jersey City, NJ
    Club:
    New York Red Bulls
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    Of course you can only have one all-star game a year. So something like that isn't feasible.

    If SUM or someone who's first through fiftieth priorities aren't lining their own pockets could take over promotion of the Champions Cup (or CONCACAF itself preferably), then I think this could be the venue for a MLS-Mexico tourney. For now expand the tourney to 12-16 and put 3-4 American (I say this because the USOC winner should get a berth) and 3-4 Mexican teams in it and there you go. Put in a group stage so you have a set schedule for the first half of it and maybe this can be workable. It won't be the UEFA CL or Copa Libertadores but we have to start somewhere.

    The InterLiga is interesting but the problem becomes when an MLS team qualifies and has to fly to South America midweek. People say we need two conferences in MLS because of travel (I disagree but that's another thread), and MLS plays mostly weekends.

    I'd prefer this over any formal mixing of MLS and the MFL. No need to reinvent the wheel.
     
  19. texgator

    texgator New Member

    Oct 28, 2003
    Plano
    The problem is ripping the CCC from the grip of the corrupt s o b's at CONCACAF. How do you expect that to ever happen? They aren't just going to hand it over to SUM. So, this would be the next best thing. Tell CONCACAF to get their shiite together or MLS and Mexico will go out on their own and make bags of cash along the way. I have no problem with working around the CCC, not the way CONCACAF is being run right now.
     
  20. MasterShake29

    MasterShake29 Member+

    Oct 28, 2001
    Jersey City, NJ
    Club:
    New York Red Bulls
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    Good point. The solution is ripping CONCACAF away from Warner and Blazer. How to go about doing that I'm not sure. You'd think between MLS and Mexico we could figure something out.
     
  21. Craig P

    Craig P BigSoccer Supporter

    Mar 26, 1999
    Eastern MA
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    The problem with control of CONCACAF is that the USSF and Mexican federation have exactly the same number of votes as any two Caribbean nations.
     
  22. Atom'sDad

    Atom'sDad New Member

    Feb 27, 2004
    Texas
    I have a crazy idea, so don't laugh too hard. Why not two seasons in a year? Spring season MFL and MLS play within their own league and then Fall season both leagues combine for a Super Season. Or something on those lines.
     
  23. texgator

    texgator New Member

    Oct 28, 2003
    Plano
    Right, which is why I suggest that instead of trying to oust Warner and Blazer, the two federations just work around them and arrange their own tourneys. Show the CONCACAF ruling party that the Feds wield some power if they want to. Perhaps, they can then agree to cut Warner in on the action for some other concessions.
     
  24. nyrmetros

    nyrmetros Member

    Feb 7, 2004
    All we need is a legitmate Concacaf Champion's Cup with all the best teams in the region and a HUGE payoff with actualy tv time and lots of coporate help.
     
  25. Revolt

    Revolt Member+

    Jun 16, 1999
    Davis, CA
    Club:
    San Jose Earthquakes
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    The CONCACAG Champions Cup, while a great idea, suffers from one problem: It is (dis)organized by CONCACAF. I love the Rio Grande Cup concept. Winner gets water rights!
     

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