News: MLS Suspends season due to Coronavirus

Discussion in 'MLS: News & Analysis' started by Mike Marshall, Mar 12, 2020.

  1. jaykoz3

    jaykoz3 Member+

    Dec 25, 2010
    Conshohocken, PA
    Club:
    Philadelphia Union
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    Wasn't this going to be their last season in MLR to begin with?
     
  2. Yoshou

    Yoshou Moderator
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    May 12, 2009
    Seattle
    Club:
    Seattle Sounders
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    That was the first I heard of it, but based on the responses to their tweet, they had a lot of turnover on their roster this season (but then, most MLR teams are on 1 year contracts, so that is to be expected).
     
  3. Minnman

    Minnman Member+

    Feb 11, 2000
    Columbus, OH, USA
    Club:
    Columbus Crew
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    Well, yes, but (1) many people will have a lot less $$ to spend than they did two months ago, and many of those who weathered wave one of the pandemic will still feel far less economically secure than they did in February, and (2) some businesses just won't ever open again. So a mini-boom due to pent-up demand? Sure. But the crater the pandemic has made in the global economy won't be filled by a mini-boom.
     
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  4. crookeddy

    crookeddy Member+

    Apr 27, 2004
    Well according to the university of Washington, we have reached peak death day today. Lets see if they know what they are talking about.
     
  5. FoxBoro 143

    FoxBoro 143 Member+

    Jan 18, 2004
    MA
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    Their projections are probably most legitimate, but no mathematical model can account for variables like social distancing obedience levels and so many other unknowns about the virus.
     
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  6. POdinCowtown

    POdinCowtown Moderator
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    Jan 15, 2002
    Columbus
    Most of the other models predict the apex hitting next week or the week after.
     
  7. JasonMa

    JasonMa Member+

    Mar 20, 2000
    Arvada, CO
    Club:
    Colorado Rapids
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    I'm the biggest UW fan (and alum) on here, and I can tell you that model is not reality at this point.
     
  8. Yoshou

    Yoshou Moderator
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    May 12, 2009
    Seattle
    Club:
    Seattle Sounders
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    NY is largely driving the curve right now:



    With NY plateauing, we should start to see the curve bend downward in the relatively near future. That doesn't mean it will be tomorrow, but hospitalizations in NY are dropping and the number of deaths lags the hospitalizations.
     
  9. crookeddy

    crookeddy Member+

    Apr 27, 2004
    Yeah, which is why they update in real time based on the most current data. So hopefully they are right, and it doesn't get any worse than this. I have my doubts though.
     
  10. jaykoz3

    jaykoz3 Member+

    Dec 25, 2010
    Conshohocken, PA
    Club:
    Philadelphia Union
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    More clarity here:
    https://www.9news.com/article/sport...rugby/73-9178481c-9c47-4376-be34-afb09d0232bd

    Appears that philosophical differences lead to the withdrawal. Rapid expansion has lead to the need for more foreign players on teams (lack of enough American talent), which has in turn meant less opportunities for American player development.
     
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  11. jaykoz3

    jaykoz3 Member+

    Dec 25, 2010
    Conshohocken, PA
    Club:
    Philadelphia Union
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    Interesting information, given the details of RSL's handling of things:



    DLH definitely has deeper pockets than Jay Sugarman does...
     
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  12. Yoshou

    Yoshou Moderator
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    May 12, 2009
    Seattle
    Club:
    Seattle Sounders
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    Okay.. But seriously... They expected immediate results after 2 seasons? I'm sorry, but I'm not buying it. It is certainly a fair argument that MLR should have less foreign players, but to toss up the 2019 results as evidence showing MLR isn't improving the American player is just nuts.. Give it some dang time...
     
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  13. crookeddy

    crookeddy Member+

    Apr 27, 2004
    This guy's analysis shows that US and Uk cases still growing exponentially, peak not yet reached.

     
  14. Yoshou

    Yoshou Moderator
    Staff Member

    May 12, 2009
    Seattle
    Club:
    Seattle Sounders
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    He's not technically wrong. there was a slowing over the weekend (which is seemingly a thing? No idea why) but there was a big jump on Tuesday from 1.2k to 1.9k and it's been stuck there since. The question is whether this is just another lull, or if it is the peak.. We'll probably have more information next Tuesday. I'd expect another slowing/drop this weekend, then a jump on Tuesday as the numbers from the weekend get reported.
     
  15. crookeddy

    crookeddy Member+

    Apr 27, 2004
    University of Washington predicted that New York cases peaked 2 days ago, so hopefully the data will prove them right...
     
  16. JayRockers!

    JayRockers! Member+

    Aug 4, 2001
    Numbers in MD spiked one day this week because of more testing and a backlog of tests cleared.

    Thx,

    Jay!
     
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  17. Yoshou

    Yoshou Moderator
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    May 12, 2009
    Seattle
    Club:
    Seattle Sounders
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    Confirmed cases is largely a useless metric for this very reason. Even at 150k tests a day, the US isn't testing enough people. It's been over a month since the US started doing testing ad we still haven't even tested 1% of the population and it can take a week (or more) to get the test results back. We aren't testing nearly enough people to determine if the spread is slowing or not and it is taking us too long to get what testing we are doing back to make meaningful analysis of it.

    The only important numbers are hospitalizations and deaths. If those numbers slow and/or peak, then we know things are slowing down, but if they remain high, we're still floundering.
     
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  18. crookeddy

    crookeddy Member+

    Apr 27, 2004
    Deaths can lag cases by a whole week though. Hospitalizations is an important one, no doubt.
     
  19. Paul Berry

    Paul Berry Member+

    Notts County and NYCFC
    England
    Apr 18, 2015
    Nr Kingston NY
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
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  20. Paul Berry

    Paul Berry Member+

    Notts County and NYCFC
    England
    Apr 18, 2015
    Nr Kingston NY
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    I'm 58 and asthmatic and I'm among colleagues and customers from 5am to 9am Monday to Friday.

    Its fine respecting social distances in principle and we take steps to keep employees apart but customers get right in your face not out of malice but out of habit.

    There's very little you can do other than frequently clean your hands frequently and try not to touch your face.

    By the way, I'm one of the younger members of our team and I worry for the older guys but I don't feel vulnerable.
     
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  21. MLSinCleveland

    MLSinCleveland Member+

    Oct 12, 2006
    Cleveland, Ohio
    Club:
    Cleveland C. S.
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    That's what I have heard.
     
  22. MLSinCleveland

    MLSinCleveland Member+

    Oct 12, 2006
    Cleveland, Ohio
    Club:
    Cleveland C. S.
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    If MLS fails, is that it for American soccer forever?
     
  23. crookeddy

    crookeddy Member+

    Apr 27, 2004
    https://www.washington.edu/news/2020/04/10/covid-19-peak-active-cases/

    Well this is the most optimistic prediction I've seen yet, but things seem so bad right now that I can't imagine it just "tapering off" in the first week of June...

    EDIT - Ah, I see. These models still use Chinese data which simply cannot be true when compared to what we're seeing from the rest of the world. I hope these guys are right, but I just can't see it. I am more inclined to trust that Imperial College of London apocalyptic prediction...
     
  24. crookeddy

    crookeddy Member+

    Apr 27, 2004
    I am going to be tracking these University of Washington predictions - I think their post peak period dropoff projections are wayyyyyy too optimistic. So far they have already been wrong in Italy. They predicted 211-522 deaths, but the actual number was 570...
     

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