News: MLS Suspends season due to Coronavirus

I'm not sure we have enough information to say that. Its unclear if these people who are testing positive have all been isolated since their arrival in Orlando. If not, then yes, infected people have gotten into the bubble.

 

Detecting people as they come in is how the bubble is supposed to work. The teams were also performing testing prior to getting into the bubble, including within a day or two of departure.

 

I have very little interest in this ersatz tournament, but at least at this stage "myriad others" seems a bit of a stretch.

 

We’re all a slave to that evil witch TV money.

 

Permit me to make a philosophical, or perhaps psychological case. The predominate, and largely accurate, view is that the less social activity the better in fighting the virus. But the problem is that our species isn't designed to go nowhere and do nothing for months at a time. In fact it is a formula for ill health. We need activity, stimulation, entertainment. I would suggest that at a time when many forms of activity and entertainment are highly restricted, spectator sport is a beneficial option, especially (but far from exclusively) for those of the male gender. It's a lot easier to stay out of a bar if you can watch some sports at home. So if MLS can keep its players safe and not contribute to the spread of COVID I'm all for the tourney.

 

https://www.foxnews.com/us/coronavirus-expert-says-americans-will-be-wearing-masks-for-several-years

I think this year will be the last chance for us to see sports until 2025 or so.

 

Vaccine won't be enough to end the pandemic. It'll only be the beginning of the end. It will take several years to reach herd immunity.

 

Most of the reports I've seen recently only expect immunity from most exposures to the virus and vaccines to last months, not years.

Only real path forward it eliminating it. Which will happen sooner or later in the places that haven't already done so, by keeping the reproduction rate under 1.

 

No, it's too late to eliminate it. It's endemic now. The current outbreak will end in a decade or so, and will reemerge again one day.

 

Exactly ZERO diseases have been eliminated in the history of the planet via herd immunity alone. It's a theory, more than a practical solution.

 

It won't eliminate the disease. It will just end the current pandemic.

 

Why doesn’t MLS just hire Lance Armstrong’s doctor? He will make all these positive tests go negative!

Problem solved.

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And here we go again: https://t.co/27jJPg98rp

— Jonathan Tannenwald (@thegoalkeeper) July 7, 2020

 

Tonight 44 Florida hospitals, including 5 in Orange County, are reporting that their ICU's are full.

 

It's already all but gone from some countries, and half the provinces here. Other than one or two spots, everything very traceable. Numbers are reducing every week.

The R is well less than 1.0 ... why would it not take months, not decades?

 

Because it'll just rush right in the moment borders are open.

 

Even if the borders open (which I can't imagine will be the case to some countries for a long time), 14-day quarantines will still be required - the same way they are when going into provinces that are covid-free.

Sure, you get the occasional flare-up of 3-4 cases from travel ... but whack-a-mole has worked time and time again in all these places.

 

Right, so the virus won't be exterminated. That's what I said. Just look at Australia - they had to use a Chinese style lockdown to get at the current flareup!

 

It will be exterminated. The little flare-ups have all been caused by travel from other regions that aren't Covid-free yet.

Australia only has a new problem in one region. They've literally only had 4 deaths in the last 6 weeks. They only have 23 active cases outside of Queensland.

They got a bit lax, too early, before eliminating it ... but they'll sort it out.

If the USA had done as good as job as other countries have done, like Australia, and China, they wouldn't be as big as risk to other countries now.

Vermont is doing relatively well, with strong rules about quarantines before and after coming to the State. Everywhere else just needs to lockdown better. Closing all indoor facilities and requiring masks in essential indoor locations should work there, just like it's worked everywhere else.

Meanwhile, there's a model in place, to let US teams into most of Canada to play. Might be a while before it's allowed in Vancouver though.

 

First of all it's only exterminated in literally one place - new Zealand. And that's because they're an island. - when they closed their borders that was it - no way in. And even they have had recent close calls. China did their great job by using a military lockdown, literally welding doors shut and dragging infected people away kicking and screaming. It caused a lot of psychological damage on their population. No thanks. Our government is preparing a "live with it forever" doctrine starting next week. Do you think the world will keep American tourist dollars out forever? They'll let us in eventually, and we'll bring the virus back.

 

There's less cases in Newfoundland than New Zealand in the last 30 days. There's other places that have eliminated it.

Not surprising that the places with more natural travel bottlenecks are clearing first. There's no indication that it won't go everywhere.

You think there's no psychological damage with the absolutely pathetic way the Americans are dealing with this? Quebec's rate was higher than almost every American state, and they are down to about 40 cases a day now, from over 1,000 a day at one point, and falling quickly. New York has also done quite well, with only a handful of deaths now per day - a lot less than Florida and Texas.

You don't have to go to quite the Chinese extreme to eliminate it. (though they really didn't quite know what they were dealing with initially ... I haven't seen reports of similar measures used in with the recent outbreak in Beijing).

I can pretty much guarantee it. If Vermont can impose quarantine on those from high Covid areas, so can other countries. There may be more granular restrictions, and real-time testing requirements, reducing quarantine periods.

Given how many people Americans have already chosen to let die - who didn't need to die, I'm sure even they will come to their senses, and move to eliminate it. It isn't difficult. Keep non-essential indoor places closed, and wear masks in essential places. That's not the fastest way to eliminate it, but it will get there.

 

How did you conclude that from this article?

 

Vaccines, in this case, are how you reach herd immunity.

There's no way to eliminate a disease, once it's out there. Vaccines and whatever immunity one might develop from having had a disease, are how diseases become effectively "eliminated," even if they still exist in nature. Polio is still a disease.

Outside of a vaccine, you're also totally discounting the development of drugs and treatments that could dramatically lessen the disease's fatality rate or its ability to make people terribly ill (as with HIV).

 

Things won't be getting better for years, and if we can't get sports going now, we might never be able to.