It is of my opinion that if we want to be treated less Mickey Mouse, and more grown up, that the tossing of rolls of paper, string confetti and anything else should be banned from all stadiums on corner kicks. I am a fan of streamers and all, but when a player is taking a corner he should not be pelted with objects being thrown at him, PERIOD. Why start this thread now? I have a mental image in my head, of a certain English star not able to leave MLS for Italy about to take a corner, and a ton of crap being thrown at him. Why would that be upsetting? Joe blow average guy might think its funny, so would a few 8 year olds, but the image projected to any future foreign player would be one of disgust. Disgust of the lack of repsect, disgust of the lack of security (because it is a potential security risk to the players), and disgust with the thought of having to play in that mess. Look, its all fun and games until the confetti starts to mask jerks that are tempted at throwing batteries, coins, beer and bodily fluid from a guy that drank too much of that beer. The throwing of objects towards players needs to stop entirely. I am not against celebratory streamers for goals and what not. I think MLS should make a league wide announcement BEFORE the first game is even kicked off about it. Thoughts?
The ECS has asked it's members to not disrupt the game by throwing streamers at players taking corners or throw ins. We have asked that streamers only be thrown after a goal (or after the National Anthem on occasion).
Sorry guys. Disagree. I see nothing wrong in the paper streamers as thrown in Toronto or the odd toilet roll chucked at a goal net after a goal. Coins. lighters, motor scooters "OK, more San Siro than Rio Tinto" are another matter entirely. IMO there's too much regulation in modern life as it is.
It's as if you didn't even read the initial post. He said to ban those things during corners/throw-ins, but NOT after goals. You can't disagree by saying the same thing. I agree completely with removing the horrible parts of the game. Throwing crap on the field, with the exception of goals, should be an ejection from the stadium. If a team won't get its fans under control, toss a yellow onto their captain for multiple offenses.
Nothing should ever be thrown onto the field no matter what. Last night someone threw a empty pint bottle at a Mexican national team member. That's BS. Just because it's happened in the past doesn't make it right. It's dangerous. The streamer thing got old really quick.
What this guy said. There's no line to be drawn. "Oh, if its paper, its ok". I mean, it's not that I don't want to chuck stuff at Ante Razov on a constant basis, but that doesn't mean it should be policy to allow it.
i agree and have said so in the past, in other threads. nothing, no exceptions, should be thrown at any player. i can care less about the celebrity or non-celebrity of the player. it should be unacceptable to throw anything at any player at any time.
And it will be soooo 2009 if MLS doesn't enforce a rule that will keep it from happening. The crap that goes down in Toronto on corners is practically disturbing. They should clamp down on it so people don't continue to think its OK to do it. This league needs to get more professional in every sense of the word. I am not against streamers and confetti when goals are scored, go nuts, its awsome. Hell I even like to see the smoke bombs and flares in the stands. I just can't handle seeing players having to deal with projectiles in any moment of the game, specially corners.
I think streamers should be still able to be thrown after goals, but its hard to ask them to stop one when aloud another. Although, I went once to see the rapids and i was really dissapointed about what they didn't allow. No signs, banners, nothing to give you the soccer atmosphere that you see in almost all other stadiums. As long as this doesn't turn into a "we'll lets take away all chance of someone bringing in any item that could be used as disruption..ie signs, banners, noise makers." I've seen it happen where the atmosphere is just taken away, and your left with watching a game like tennis.
I love all the anti-Rapids stuff, it is funny most of the time(because its true), but.... I have to sit back and say wtf are you talking about? I have never seen a time where banners or flags or any of that has been banned.
No, it's more like you've never seen a game at BMO. The streamers I referred to are a feature of corner kicks in that stadium.
Not that I am a spokesmann for TFC or anything but both Usector and RPB verbally stated that streamers will not be thrown at players taking corner kicks. That said, it continues to happen but there are only really about 1000 dedicated supporters that will follow the party line and that leaves 19,000 others to join in the fun. It will slow and end once we have something better to watch on the field.
I kind of like it. Once. I don't like it when there are 5 corners in a half and each one takes a couple of minutes because of the damn streamers. Maybe a policy of, once in each corner of the field, 4 max. total in a game. Hit the same corner twice, fans start getting escorted out. There was a very famous play in the NCAA tournament in, I think, 1983. UNC vs. James Madison, I think. (OK, with all of these "I thinks" maybe it wasn't so famous. ) Anyway, JMU had a thing going then that after the first basket of the game, the fans threw streamers out onto the court. The game would stop, their cheerleaders would go out there and jump and do splits and all that, the stuff would be cleaned up, then the game would go on. They did it ONCE, not every basket. Kinda cool. Anyway, Carolina didn't know about the tradition, and after the made basket, they tried to get upcourt quickly. The guy with the ball (Jimmy Braddock, I think) was racing down and this female cheerleader came onto the court to do her shtick and Braddock just plowed right into her. Good times, good times.
Columbus Supporter Groups have pretty much stopped with organized streamers as well. You might get the occasional one thrown but beyond that it's rare anymore.
If this were to happen, Toronto would end up playing in front of an empty stadium the whole time. Let's do it!
I’m all for celebrating after goals or such as has been said. But I agree it is just in poor taste to throw anything on the field during the play of game. Yes it slows the game down, even worse when something hits the players; what’s next batteries, bags of urine? As much as we bitch about Guatemala well, let’s take the high road. We’re better than this. Celebrate after you score a goal, don’t impede the game while it’s in progress.
i dont think it should be banned, groups should just put more work into other things. if they start banning things, then you could see more and more things start to go. the groups should be able to have a choice in my opinion, even if they look like idiots. personally think streamers look the best when they are thrown together in an organized fashion when the teams come out.
Almost. That game was in 1982 and thanks to UNC and the NCAA, they quickly squashed that afterwards. It's still done at our football games, but ONLY when the team takes the field and after they score. We've faced several permanent bans in the last couple years because some drunk idiot inevitably throws a streamer at the opposing team (student section is directly behind the visitors' bench). That is the difference between celebrating, which TFC and others should be doing, and what they are actually doing. To allow the streamer problem to get where it has by forcing a player to stop taking the kick to clean up the mess is simply inexcusable. As others have mentioned, once streamers are allowed to be thrown, it is very easy for a couple people to abuse the situation and throw something a little harder, with the intent to hit the opposing player.
It'll stop when a player gets badly injured trying to play around all the streamers. It would be karma if that player turned out to be Beckham.
Are you retarded!! You making this whack opinion, make you and your league look mickey mouse!!! Its soccer get over its going to happen, nothing you can do about it, and if they ban it, they might as well fold the whole league... the throwing of objects show the disrespect of the other team, which shows pride for your team and that you'll do anything to stop the other team from winning... dont be gay, looks like you have nothing else to talk about...