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This makes no sense at all. Let's put it in terms you'd understand: that's like fans refusing to go to a game between Sporting CP and Porto because the two teams also have to play all the small teams in the league. Really?

Fans don't show up because it's midweek, that's all.

 

Considering a domestic cup is Chicago's only realistic chance at silverware any time soon, I care.

I definitely think we need to solidify our existing competitions before we start adding more shit. But I think there's room for a secondary international tournament provided it's done right.

 

I get what you're going for, but it's pretty unnecessary at the moment.

First off, the Champions Leagues possible return to the old format basically takes care of this already. (http://www.si.com/planet-futbol/2015/09/18/concacaf-champions-league-schedule-changes-format). And, hopefully, the rumored schedule change might help things a bit on the MLS side. IF things work out well, a secondary cup competition might be worth it adding.

 

Why? CONCACAF <---- I mean, seriously wtf?

 

The way to solve the whole "pro-rel" BS (and it is complete BS) is to put MORE emphasis on the playoffs and possibly include a group format. Look at the playoffs as promotion. If you're Chicago or Philly you're basically relegated to sitting at home 2 months of the season. If MLS could add financial incentives to getting in the playoffs that pretty much solves all the issues Ted Westerveltenhoosen and his ilk have with the current set up. As it is, playoff teams get more revenue from ticket sales, advertising, parking, concessions, etc.

Give teams that make the playoffs an extra $500k in TAM or something. Boom. Done. Can't wait for November.

 

Rich get richer problem then. Now the following year the teams that were already good now have even more money to separate themselves from the bad tams, which leads to them getting another $500K of TAM the next year, repeat, etc.

 

But they get high draft picks.

 

No, that doesn't make sense. If people aren't showing up to a game with a big opponent, it's not because the other teams in the competition -- the ones that aren't even playing in that game -- are unknown.

 

I can only speak for SoCal but the opposition is not the biggest issue.

Southern California commuter traffic is. It's a nightmare for many to get to Carson for a 7pm kickoff. Depending on where you are, some cannot physically be there for kickoff and some can't get there at all.

I once attended a friendly been Chelsea and Inter at the Rose Bowl, left straight from work in Long Beach directly and was still in the car well over two hours later.

I finally got to my seat about five minutes into the second half.

 

Which is why the Galaxy need to focus their marketing dollars in Long Beach and South Bay. Not billboards in Sylmar.

 

You could put MLS in the CopaLib, or the qualifying rounds of the UEFA Champions League, and there's little reason to believe it would get anyone who doesn't care about MLS to start caring. MLS clubs play in MLS, the US Open Cup, the CONCACAF Champions League, and the Canadian Championships. Two of those competitions aren't on TV, and the remaining one that isn't MLS is on TV because Mexican soccer is really popular in this country. No one cares about the Cups we have; why make more?

And yes, this and SuperLiga are exactly the same thing.

In 2011, we packed 51,000 people into a stadium on a Wednesday to watch the second to worst team in MLS play Manchester United. In the same stadium that saw 7,000 people show up on a Satud

The people who spend their free time talking about soccer on an outdated Internet Forum is, frankly, not a large enough group to build a soccer competition around

 

I admit that the CONCACAF Champions League isn't popular, but games with MLS clubs are on one of the Fox channels. If what I underlined was true, the CONCACAF Champions League would have games with Mexican clubs on TV in Spanish with no games on TV in English. I don't think the popularity of Mexican soccer makes fans of Mexican clubs watch Group Stage games between an MLS club and a Central American or Caribbean club. I don't think CONCACAF is ready for another cup either. As for your first sentence, putting MLS clubs in Copa Libertadores could get fans of those clubs who don't care about the CONCACAF Champions League to care about international club games even if it didn't get the clubs any new fans.

 

Right, so stop making more of them.

How?

But they don't.

CONCACAF minus Central America and the Caribbean would give you a tournament featuring MLS and Liga MX. So you want to eliminate most of the confederation and remake Superliga. Am I reading this correctly?

You're not wrong.

And you base this on what now?

How are they not?

That's why there is no more Superliga.

 

They didn't allow teams to compete in both tournaments in 2009 and 2010. So what you're proposing is exactly Superliga.

If we can't get enough interest with two trophies available, let's make it three! That'll work!

 

First: Just a few years ago there were 4 teams in each group, and it didn't get any media attention. The media won't pay attention just because there are more games being played on each matchday, there need to be people interested in those games first.

Second: you do realize that the Caribbean Club Championship is played in two weeks, don't you? There's a one-week group stage with each group being hosted at a single location, and then the semifinals and final are played in one location in a period of 3 days. They don't play any more games than that because of MONEY.

Third: why would Mexico agree to this? Mexico only stands to lose money, because Copa Libertadores pays and CONCACAF competitions don't.

 

How the hell are you going to convince the powers that be in the Caribbean to enact these changes to CCL? They wouldn't allow this for a second.

 

That's not important right now

 

He can go about his business