MLS Playoffs 2011: Conference Semis, First Legs [Multiple R]

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  1. Ismitje

    Ismitje Super Moderator

    Dec 30, 2000
    The Palouse
    Club:
    Real Salt Lake
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    Odd schedule this weekend with one game on Saturday and three on Sunday.

    Saturday 29 October

    Seattle at Salt Lake, 10:00 EDT, Fox Soccer Channel

    Sunday 30 October

    Los Angeles at New York, 3:00 EDT, ESPN2
    Houston at Philadelphia, 5:00 EDT, ESPN2
    Kansas City at Colorado, 7:00 EDT, Fox Soccer Channel

    We'll run this thread through Sunday night and head for the second leg thread on Monday morning. As always, keep it friendly here in the neutral thread.
     
  2. Knave

    Knave Member+

    May 25, 1999
    I have no option except to root for a meteor strike.
     
  3. DynamoEAR

    DynamoEAR Member+

    May 30, 2011
    New England
    Club:
    Houston Dynamo
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    come on dude it's real football. 3 pm start, on a sunday, in a great stadium, and cool weather.:cool:
     
  4. cthomer5000

    cthomer5000 Member+

    Apr 23, 2007
    Raleigh NC
    Club:
    New York Red Bulls
    A real bummer if you're attending games on Sunday (as I am), because it is just impossible to watch all the games live. Philly fans getting the worst of it i guess.

    At least im going to the early game, so i can race home and start getting caught up on the Philly-Houston game.
     
  5. evangel

    evangel Member+

    Apr 12, 2007
    The meteors are contractually obligated to land after the match.
     
  6. Indiscretion

    Indiscretion Member

    Aug 6, 2007
    Atlanta, GA
    Club:
    Toronto FC
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    So glad we are moving on to real playoff games. The Wild Card games were AWFUL. I really hope they arent brought back next year.
     
  7. Omar

    Omar Hurrrrr....

    Nov 23, 2007
    Monterrey MEX
    Club:
    Club Tigres de la UANL
    Nat'l Team:
    Mexico
    Meteor Bowl!!!
     
  8. Knave

    Knave Member+

    May 25, 1999
    I like this.

    METEOR BOWL

    It has been named!

    Thus it is!

    ... anyway ...

    So, one lower seeded wildcard and one higher seeded wildcard went through.

    Does that meant the wildcard system was a success?
     
  9. DynamoEAR

    DynamoEAR Member+

    May 30, 2011
    New England
    Club:
    Houston Dynamo
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    less than 8k for that colorado stinker
     
  10. cthomer5000

    cthomer5000 Member+

    Apr 23, 2007
    Raleigh NC
    Club:
    New York Red Bulls
    Since the Red Bulls benefited, i'm OK with them right now. :D

    And i think it was especially silly to add them *this* year, when the calendar aligned how it did. We are racing through the first few rounds of the playoffs (teams could play 4 games in 12 days), and then there is two weeks between the conference championships and MLS cup.

    The playoff format(s) continue to be my pet peeve with the league. Above all though, any of them would be more tolerable if they just stuck with one.
     
  11. Sounders78

    Sounders78 Member+

    Apr 20, 2009
    France
    Club:
    Seattle Sounders
    Nat'l Team:
    France

    Such a loaded question. New York in the West, Colorado in the East, #2 vs #3, while #5 plays #6 (or 7) and #7 (or 6) plays #8, etc ...
     
  12. Brazbit

    Brazbit BigSoccer Supporter

    Jun 1, 2009
    Manchester, WA (USA)
    Club:
    Seattle Sounders
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    I am sure it is pure coincidence but reports are starting to come in from observatories around the planet that the asteroid belt has mysteriously ceased to exist and no stray rocks can be found anywhere in the cosmos.

    Good going Knave....
     
  13. cthomer5000

    cthomer5000 Member+

    Apr 23, 2007
    Raleigh NC
    Club:
    New York Red Bulls
    The core 'problem' with the playoff system right now is tied to the balanced the schedule. Because we had a balanced schedule the last two years, it's plain as day who is ranked 1-8 (or 1-10) in the league. It's not even debatable.

    Since we can legitimately rank teams 1-10 based on results against each other, it bothers us that the playoffs are all over the place.

    We have 1,2,3,10 in the West now and 5,6,7,8 in the East. And #6 in the East is actually the 'lowest' seed in the East. Not to mention we have two teams swapping conferences.

    For people to stop whining one of two things need to happen:

    A) Forget the concept of conferences and go single table and seed playoffs accordingly

    B) Embrace conferences and unbalance the schedule, preferably to a significant degree, something along the lines of teams have maybe 75-80% of their schedule in common with teams from the other conference

    --

    You never heard outrage because Peyton Manning's Colts and Tom Brady's Patriots couldn't meet in the Super Bowl. Or the Yankees and Red Sox. Everyone accepts those divisions of the leagues, and the playoffs are made necessary (or at least their existence is justified) because of unbalanced regular season schedules.

    --
     
  14. Howard the Drake

    Feb 27, 2010
    yeah, I'm hoping the league reconsiders the wildcard round after the ugly games with small crowds.
     
  15. Howard the Drake

    Feb 27, 2010
    More than anything, it seems like the league is trying to please everyone with the format. They want the American conferences approach, but then they basically admit the flaws with that approach by making the playoffs quasi-single table (in terms of admitting teams).
     
  16. cthomer5000

    cthomer5000 Member+

    Apr 23, 2007
    Raleigh NC
    Club:
    New York Red Bulls
    And now Colorado have to turn around and sell tickets in 3 days, again.
     
  17. Sounders78

    Sounders78 Member+

    Apr 20, 2009
    France
    Club:
    Seattle Sounders
    Nat'l Team:
    France

    Very well said.
     
  18. youth=glory

    youth=glory Member

    Sep 2, 2010
    What??? People complain about playoffs in other leagues all the time. NFC West last year was horrible and yet a undeserved team made the playoffs. In the NBA they don't reseed, so when the Warriors beat the Mavs, the higher seeded teams got screwed. In the NHL division winners get the 3 highest seeds no matter what....even if they have lower points then other teams in the playoffs....(NFL to). Don't even get me started on BCS.
     
  19. TheSmokingPun

    TheSmokingPun Member

    Mar 31, 2010
    Kansas City, MO
    Club:
    Sporting Kansas City
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    And we're bringing a bus full of folks plus others like myself who are driving in.

    Went to Colorado earlier this year, what a snoozer of a game. Of all people, Ryan Smith scored his only goal of the year before taking off. We were really bad back then, starting Mike Jones in the backline? Wow, wonders that we've came back this far.
     
  20. DynamoEAR

    DynamoEAR Member+

    May 30, 2011
    New England
    Club:
    Houston Dynamo
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
  21. AndyMead

    AndyMead Homo Sapien

    Nov 2, 1999
    Seat 12A
    Club:
    Sporting Kansas City
    If you consider a sample size of two games to be sufficient, then sure - by all means.

    I have facebook posts from friends from as late as the 7th inning last night saying that the WS game was "setting baseball back by 20 years".

    I find it hard to get too worked up over two games. And, frankly, the main point wasn't those too games, but the last two months of the regular season - have you seen Knave's tragic number thread?
     
  22. GreatGonzo

    GreatGonzo Member+

    Jul 1, 1999
    MA
    Club:
    Colorado Rapids
    I have the sense that this is what MLS is aiming for in the long run. Keeping the conferences in the current set up makes no sense unless MLS is aiming for continuity (which they're screwing up by adding more rounds, but that's a different issue) and hoping to have meaningful conferences in the years to come.

    On the one hand, they should do better since it's a Sunday. On the other hand, kickoff is at 5 PM MDT, the Denver Tebows kickoff at 4 PM, and the Avs have a home game at 8 PM.
     
  23. xtomx

    xtomx Member+

    Chicago Fire
    Sep 6, 2001
    Northern Wisconsin, but not far from civilization
    Club:
    Chicago Fire
  24. DoctorD

    DoctorD Member+

    Sep 29, 2002
    MidAtlantic
    Club:
    Philadelphia Union
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    Folks, isn't this the pbp thread?
     
  25. DoctorD

    DoctorD Member+

    Sep 29, 2002
    MidAtlantic
    Club:
    Philadelphia Union
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    From that one comment, it seems that the Guardian can't even do this for the Championship level and below! :D
     

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