MLS - Players Union Agreement

Discussion in 'MLS: News & Analysis' started by AndyMead, Nov 11, 2004.

  1. AndyMead

    AndyMead Homo Sapien

    Nov 2, 1999
    Seat 12A
    Club:
    Sporting Kansas City
    Official Announcement:
     
  2. monster

    monster Member

    Oct 19, 1999
    Hanover, PA
    Club:
    DC United
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    But no mention of single table. :p

    Unfreakingbelievable news.

    Labor agreement
    adidas money

    Great week for MLS.
     
  3. writered21

    writered21 Member+

    Jul 14, 2001
    Middle of the Road
    Club:
    DC United
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    Big news indeed. It's a major step forward.
     
  4. AndyMead

    AndyMead Homo Sapien

    Nov 2, 1999
    Seat 12A
    Club:
    Sporting Kansas City
    Yeah, but a pure league would have free agency. :p
     
  5. fatbastard

    fatbastard Member+

    Aug 1, 2003
    Lincoln (ish), Va
    Club:
    DC United
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    All-in-all great news for the league and its players. Thanx for posting it.
     
  6. monster

    monster Member

    Oct 19, 1999
    Hanover, PA
    Club:
    DC United
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    Indeed.

    On a serious note, it looks like they may have traded that for increases in licensing, etc., which is more significant given the adidas deal, which shouuld get gear into more stores.
     
  7. guamster

    guamster Member+

    Mar 30, 2001
    Winnetka, CA
    Club:
    --other--
    Nat'l Team:
    Guam
    ...and no American football lines on the "pitch."
     
  8. writered21

    writered21 Member+

    Jul 14, 2001
    Middle of the Road
    Club:
    DC United
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    Premiership and Coke Championship "pitches" have rugby lines on them on occasion, what's the difference? Maybe the football lines are just a sign of our increasing "sophistication." :p
     
  9. Bonji

    Bonji Moderator

    Feb 4, 2003
    Denver, Colorado
    Club:
    Colorado Rapids
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    Happy to hear it. The raising of the league minimum salary should help keep some of the top young talent from heading overseas. Hopefully preventing situations where players who are drafted leave to try and make it with a DII English team instead of giving it a go here.
     
  10. swedcrip34

    swedcrip34 New Member

    Mar 17, 2004
    thumbs up

    where was that smart aleck comment in the last few days about this never getting done?
     
  11. guamster

    guamster Member+

    Mar 30, 2001
    Winnetka, CA
    Club:
    --other--
    Nat'l Team:
    Guam
    Oops. Sorry, I forgot the :).

    For the background story on the "impurity of MLS soccer," read this thread.
    On second thought, don't bother.

    Back on topic, this announcement sure came out of the blue. Was anyone aware that the two parties were this close to announcing an agreement?

    Monday's announcement: Quakes to stay in SJ for 2005
    Yesterday's announcement: Adidas and the reserve league
    Today's annoucement: CBA between MLS and the Players' Union.

    I can't wait to see what tomorrow's big announcement will be.
     
  12. AndyMead

    AndyMead Homo Sapien

    Nov 2, 1999
    Seat 12A
    Club:
    Sporting Kansas City
  13. murtaugh29

    murtaugh29 New Member

    Oct 4, 2004
    roja LOCURA
    is that the actual logo?
     
  14. BulaJacket

    BulaJacket Member

    Columbus Crew (hometown), Minnesota United (close ties), Colorado Rapids (now home), Jacksonville Armada (ties)
    United States
    May 9, 2003
    Ashtabula, OH / Denver, CO / MN / Jax
    Club:
    Colorado Rapids
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
  15. AndyMead

    AndyMead Homo Sapien

    Nov 2, 1999
    Seat 12A
    Club:
    Sporting Kansas City
    Yes.

    Wait, I mean...

    Si.
     
  16. AndyMead

    AndyMead Homo Sapien

    Nov 2, 1999
    Seat 12A
    Club:
    Sporting Kansas City
  17. swedcrip34

    swedcrip34 New Member

    Mar 17, 2004
    yes. Wilt had suggested it was close.

    today the MVP will be named

    is free agency really necessary in MLS? hopefully it's changing, but do players ask themselves, "will that AEG team pay me more than this AEG team". a little overboard, but still, there's always the Swedish second division as an alternative. I don't see MLS not accomadating older players' wishes on location any less than other US pro sports does
     
  18. jeffenbauer

    jeffenbauer Member

    Jul 17, 2002
    dallas, tx
    They should have just gone with MLS at the top and a big P.U. in the middle.
     
  19. AndyMead

    AndyMead Homo Sapien

    Nov 2, 1999
    Seat 12A
    Club:
    Sporting Kansas City
    1. Free agency isn't necessarily who will pay more - especially with the tight salary caps - but about a players ability to control where he plays once his contract runs out. MLS has basically reinstituted MLB's old reserve clause.

    2. The fact is - if the MLSPU traded Free Agency for things like health benefits, a 401k, and increased salaries for development and minimum salary players, then it was likely a good decision. This being the first collective bargaining agreement, having that agreement affect and help virtually every player is key. Free agency would only affect a relatively small, and likely well-paid, set of players.
     
  20. swedcrip34

    swedcrip34 New Member

    Mar 17, 2004
    the lawsuit seems ancient history as most of the players involved are gone

    any word about how much the developmental pay will go up? if 4-6 new developemental spots are added, that'll be more of an issue. seems like they have medical benefits covered. With a little off the books help on housing and meals, dev pay isn't that bad of a short-term option as it might seem (at ages 21-23).

    MLS is in competition with Europe and other professions. I don't mind losing out to Europe in some cases, but it'll improve the league to keep more of the top talent playing soccer
     
  21. monster

    monster Member

    Oct 19, 1999
    Hanover, PA
    Club:
    DC United
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    First wire hit online I got was at 2:02 p.m. :eek:
     
  22. AndyMead

    AndyMead Homo Sapien

    Nov 2, 1999
    Seat 12A
    Club:
    Sporting Kansas City
    What you see is all that has been released. Until the players have ratified the deal, I'm not sure how many of the details will come out.
     
  23. AndyMead

    AndyMead Homo Sapien

    Nov 2, 1999
    Seat 12A
    Club:
    Sporting Kansas City
    The press release was emailed at 1:41pm, and the time on the MLSnet.com item is 1:39pm.

    Trusdell doesn't mess around.
     
  24. Goodsport

    Goodsport Moderator
    Staff Member

    May 18, 1999
    Club:
    San Jose Earthquakes
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    Eurosnob! :mad:





























































    Just kidding. :D
     
  25. swedcrip34

    swedcrip34 New Member

    Mar 17, 2004
    NHL doesn't allow free player movement until age 31 IIRC. NFL has "franchise players". NBA allows the team holding player rights to almost always offer more. MLB is a big mess that I think will self implode within 10 years (just my opinion, most probably disagree).

    I think we agree free agency would be nice. But I'm not a huge fan considering it works against giving all markets a competitive fair playing field. If pro athletes get paid to play sports and don't get to pick their place to live until age 30, I don't feel that sorry for them. But this is all a little off topic.
     

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