MLS players form union, serve league with papers

Discussion in 'MLS: News & Analysis' started by Northside Rovers, May 2, 2003.

  1. Northside Rovers

    Jan 28, 2000
    Austin TX
    Club:
    FC Dallas
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    http://sports.yahoo.com/mls/news?slug=mlsplayersunion

    The MLSPU has taken the first step.

    "The documents seek clarification of several issues, including player salaries and an explanation of the salary cap, which many sources have said borders on the artificial."
     
  2. kenntomasch

    kenntomasch Member+

    Sep 2, 1999
    Out West
    Club:
    FC Tampa Bay Rowdies
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    In a related story, Bigsoccer servers are expected to crash after the data is released.
     
  3. soccerfan

    soccerfan BigSoccer Supporter

    Mar 13, 1999
    New Jersey
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    i have no idea what all this will mean in the long term, just one question, is it bad ? should we start to worry there won't be an MLS because of it?
     
  4. FootyMundo

    FootyMundo New Member

    Mar 1, 2001
    Minneapolis
    Only if the players are unbelievably STUPID.
     
  5. kenntomasch

    kenntomasch Member+

    Sep 2, 1999
    Out West
    Club:
    FC Tampa Bay Rowdies
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    No. Discussed ad nauseum here.
     
  6. NateP

    NateP Member

    Mar 28, 2001
    Plainfield, NH, USA
    Club:
    New England Revolution
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    Agreed. The things the union are asking for (so far)are the same things that fans and reporters have been pusuing for awhile. Making the way MLS does business more transparent can only be a good thing IMHO, and changes in the minimum salary, a pension plan, and some form of limited free agency can probably be worked out to everyone's satisfaction.
     
  7. Northside Rovers

    Jan 28, 2000
    Austin TX
    Club:
    FC Dallas
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    Hah. Huss / Jesse / whoever better start some DR testing.


    And there will be some serious player movement and re-classification in the MLS Fantasy Leagues - where the impact of this union will be felt the hardest.
     
  8. diablodelsol

    diablodelsol Member+

    Jan 10, 2001
    New Jersey
    I hope the players have considered that one of the results of transparancy could be that the cap is actually enforced.
     
  9. monster

    monster Member

    Oct 19, 1999
    Hanover, PA
    Club:
    DC United
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    It's not like this whole thing has been a surprise to either side. So I would guess that any gaps are ready to be closed when the time comes. And it's not like players aren't used to biting the bullet.
     
  10. Jeremy Goodwin

    Jeremy Goodwin Member+

    SSC Napoli
    Feb 16, 1999
    Club:
    Montreal Impact
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    An actual, enforced, public, hard cap is the thing that I think will get the players whatever they want in exchange. It's pretty clear that the league just can't help itself when it comes to bringing in players who won't count toward the cap, so they may choose to rely on the union to keep their hands out of the cookie jar (oooh, Luis Hernandez! Ahhhh, Hong Myung-Bo!).

    Could result in a league that, in terms of player aquisition costs, is more responsible.
     
  11. kenntomasch

    kenntomasch Member+

    Sep 2, 1999
    Out West
    Club:
    FC Tampa Bay Rowdies
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    And then we'll get the bitching about the quality of play again because they're "responsible" in their spending.
     
  12. Jeremy Goodwin

    Jeremy Goodwin Member+

    SSC Napoli
    Feb 16, 1999
    Club:
    Montreal Impact
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    Yeah, well, I'm not so sure. I'm thinking we can certainly get more player for our buck than we have been in the past.

    Name brand players? Nope.

    Good players who will improve the level of play in our league, be positive role models for our youth, and make long term commitments to grow the sport in the US? Yep.
     
  13. kenntomasch

    kenntomasch Member+

    Sep 2, 1999
    Out West
    Club:
    FC Tampa Bay Rowdies
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    I'm sure you're right but that won't stop the bitching necessarily.
     
  14. jmeissen0

    jmeissen0 New Member

    Mar 31, 2001
    page 1078
    if the cap becomes hard and everything is known, i could see transfer fees allowing for softness in player acquisitions, which would probably be something the players union would be up for, as it would provide it's members a chance at a higher level
     
  15. HalaMadrid

    HalaMadrid Member

    Apr 9, 1999
    Furthermore, if things become more transparent, in terms of acquisition fees and salaries, the league might not go after as many 'cap-shady' players or at least manage the costs for them better. Then if the players agree to a hard cap, there's every possibility it'd actually be somewhat considerably higher.
     
  16. kenntomasch

    kenntomasch Member+

    Sep 2, 1999
    Out West
    Club:
    FC Tampa Bay Rowdies
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    Just talked with Evan Whitfield, the Fire's player rep. He said "We could have a deal next week, but it probably wouldn't be a great deal for the players." ;)

    They don't have a timetable, this has all happened in just the last two weeks. They're gathering information and will put it all together in a platform to present to the league at some point. He mentioned that besides the big three issues that Lalas mentioned (salaries, free agency, licensing rights), there are a ton of little items that need to be addressed, none of which are dealbreakers by themselves, but which all fall under the 'general working conditions' category.

    So don't look for an announcement next week.
     
  17. Steve Holroyd

    Steve Holroyd New Member

    Apr 19, 2003
    New Jersey
    Club:
    --other--
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    Employers are required to supply to unions, upon request, information that is "necessary and relevant" for the purposes of collective bargaining.

    Most new unions usually "serve" broad, general information requests upon employers simply to get a firm grasp of the bargaining unit, what needs to be addressed, etc. This should not be surprising. Most employees do not know what their fellow employees are earning, for example, or whether they are all getting the same benefits.

    This is not necessarily the first salvo in an inevitable war. It's actually pretty routine.
     
  18. rocketeer22

    rocketeer22 Member+

    Apr 11, 2000
    Oakton,VA
    Club:
    DC United
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    #1 General Working Condition: Please keep Dema off the field when I am playing.
     
  19. Rodan

    Rodan New Member

    Feb 16, 1999
    Providence
    My "Post-of-the-Day".
     

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