News: MLS owners approve fall-spring calendar and season format changes: Sources

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  1. STR1

    STR1 Member+

    Atlanta United
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    May 29, 2010
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    Real Madrid
    Super Bowl is on a Sunday. They can restart the season that same weekend just not schedule any games for that Sunday.
     
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  2. JasonMa

    JasonMa Member+

    Mar 20, 2000
    Arvada, CO
    Club:
    Colorado Rapids
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    The report about the change said specifically that they were looking to avoid restarting on Super Bowl weekend. Which makes sense, any coverage, even on Saturday, would be dwarfed by the Super Bowl coverage.

    They did float restarting the week before though, at which point they would probably follow your suggestion and just have Saturday games on Super Bowl weekend.
     
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  3. sportie1

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    Sep 4, 2008
    MLS 3.0- becoming part of the world soccer schedule- mid-Summer to late Spring- coming in 2027

    MLS 4.0- the salary cap- cancellation or major modification- new ownership groups with deeper pockets will have to come- but it will come if MLS wants to play with the big world leagues- within 5 years

    MLS 5.0- promotion-relegation- within 10 years
     
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  4. fortcollins

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    St. Louis City SC
    Apr 12, 2006
    Fort Collins
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    Colorado Rapids
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    United States
    Just measuring the proposed transition season, wouldn't this be closer to a Half Cup? And if the Half Cup measure is made of wood, "woodent" it also be closer to a Half Spoon? ;)

    half cup half spoon.jpg
     
  5. An Unpaved Road

    An Unpaved Road Member+

    Mar 22, 2006
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    I don’t think we’re still in MLS 2.0.
     
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  6. fortcollins

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    St. Louis City SC
    Apr 12, 2006
    Fort Collins
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    Colorado Rapids
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    United States
    Absolutely. Since at least part of the reason for the season shift is broadcast revenue, one issue is whether Apple TV would allow the matches in the 1:30 time slot.

    <sarcasm alert>
    They might be persuaded if heat was not provided to the broadcast booths, to help make the broadcasts more realistic.
    </sarcasm alert>
     
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  7. Chesco United

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    DC United
    Jun 24, 2001
    Chester County, PA
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    DC United
    Nat'l Team:
    Argentina
    I never thought MLS would actually do it. Wynalda's followers on the dead bird site are strongly in favor of this, for what it's worth. This won't be dull.
     
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  8. An Unpaved Road

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    I hope USL doesn’t change, no soccer around the Fourth of July timeframe would just feel wrong.
     
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  9. AeroNaught

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    Atlanta United
    Feb 14, 2007
    Birmingham, AL
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  10. An Unpaved Road

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  11. deejay

    deejay Member+

    Feb 14, 2000
    Tarpon Springs, FL
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    Jorge Wilstermann
    Nat'l Team:
    Bolivia
    Not just smart teams but quite possibly all teams. During the winter window MLS teams are by far the big movers and since MLS can't compete against MLS the less prepared teams could barely make a move. In the summer window they will have a lot more opportunity.
     
  12. Jeremy Goodwin

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    SSC Napoli
    Feb 16, 1999
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    Montreal Impact
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    United States
    I'm reasonably confident that if this is a total disaster, MLS will have zero qualms about reversing course immediately.
     
  13. Jeremy Goodwin

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    SSC Napoli
    Feb 16, 1999
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    Montreal Impact
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    Garber described the owner support for the measure as "overwhelming" and basically said he was surprised for many groups voted for it while admitting they would have gone ahead with the change with less support.

    Steamrolling to me suggests that a smaller group with disproportionate power pushed through a change detrimental to everyone but it seems like there was broad agreement. Not everyone was happy but that's not how league governance works.
     
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  14. tallguy

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    Sep 15, 2004
    MoCoLand, MD
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    DC United
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    United States
    After thirty years of Spring, Summer & Fall seasons, I'm OK with conforming ourselves to the European schedule. I'm so tired of all those international breaks that MLS plays through with largely second and third tier players while our top tier players go off to play for their national teams. Cold weather may be a problem, but it's usually not too bad in Maryland until New Years and our weather tends to break towards Spring by the second or third week of February. That's when I usually start packing my wool sweaters away. One dodgey aspect is that MLS playoffs will be competing with the NBA and NHL playoffs, as things are now MLS playoffs compete with the NFL and college regular seasons -- so it's a wash in my opinion.
     
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  15. JasonMa

    JasonMa Member+

    Mar 20, 2000
    Arvada, CO
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    Colorado Rapids
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    United States
    *sigh*
     
  16. JasonMa

    JasonMa Member+

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    Colorado Rapids
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    United States
  17. TrueCrew

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    Dec 22, 2003
    Columbus, OH
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    Columbus Crew
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    United States
    #192 TrueCrew, Nov 14, 2025
    Last edited: Nov 14, 2025
    For me:
    1.0: Original 10, + 1998 expansion + Tampa/Miami contraction.
    2.0: Expansion phase with DP.
    3.0 Calendar switch.

    If you wanna wait until after Chivas contractsxto call Phase 2.0, fine. Though SSS opening in 1999 is also a good transition point. Though contraction comes after.

    Original 10. 1996-1997.
    Early expansion/relocation/Contraction. 1998, 2005, 2014.
    The rise of SSS. 1999- now
    Rapid expansion & DPs.
    Schedule change: 2027

    There is some overlap. But those are the biggies.
     
  18. GunnerJacket

    GunnerJacket Moderator
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    Sep 18, 2003
    Gainesville, GA
    Club:
    Arsenal FC
    Apologies if I missed this point while skimming the earlier pages...

    For context, I was a kid attending Atlanta Chiefs matches in the 70's. I understand that compared to elsewhere and to other sports, pro soccer in the US has always faced unique hurdles and will continue to do so, and as a result never make everyone happy. Simple as. Even as MLS stumbled its way into establishing a stable home for the sport here, there's been constant griping about what was "wrong." (Especially in the day and age of the Attention Economy, I trust the griping will continue regardless.) So, I'm indifferent about the move personally but I know this won't affect everyone evenly and I truly sympathize with those who'll be adversely impacted.

    What I do think has helped me accept the potential of the shift, however, is that MLS is an established commodity. To paraphrase the line from A League of Their Own, they sold us a product when there was none, but now there is a product. Yes, MLS is obviously trying to glom more off the casual association with soccer's biggest team and league brands, but that may well be a good idea. These guys have put a lot of money into the product to date so I'd hate to think they made this calculation too casually. Time will tell, but I believe the league has earned the right to try this because of how much they've done to get pro footie in the states to this point.

    I would add this: If they knew they were leaning in this direction, they missed an optimal window to make the change with next year's World Cup. Should've committed to the action a year earlier and then we could've all more gracefully pivoted after taking in the showcase event. C'est la vie.

    Bottom line, we still have a strong, stable domestic top flight. I'll give this a chance and see what it means for the league.
     
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  19. superdave

    superdave Member+

    Jul 14, 1999
    Raleigh NC
    Club:
    DC United
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    The first thing on your list is an attempt to solve a problem, namely, how MLS interacts with the global transfer market. Secondarily, as the player pool has improved, avoiding playing through FIFA dates has become more and more important.

    The second thing, well, I can imagine a world where it solves a problem, but that world doesn’t exist yet. Right now there’s nowhere near enough value in being more competitive with Mexican and other CONCACAF sides.

    A world where pro/rel solves a problem is hard to imagine, like a world with abundant, cheap, clean energy, like if we wove the cold fusion problem. Suggesting p/r is silliness.
     
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  20. morrissey

    morrissey Moderator
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    Feb 18, 2000
    West Los Angeles, Calif
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    DC United
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    United States
    Come on. That wasn't trolling. It was a decent option supported by examples to back up assertions. So you disagree. Great.
     
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  21. Yoshou

    Yoshou Fan of the CCL Champ

    May 12, 2009
    Seattle
    Club:
    Seattle Sounders
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    Hey now, hopefully the Revs will be in their new Boston (Everett) stadium by then! Also hopefully they'll include a roof that can be fully closed, HVAC, and a heated field.
     
  22. morrissey

    morrissey Moderator
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    Feb 18, 2000
    West Los Angeles, Calif
    Club:
    DC United
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    You get to 40 Teams you can have a Top Division and Lower Division. That's the way I see it happening.
     
  23. Yoshou

    Yoshou Fan of the CCL Champ

    May 12, 2009
    Seattle
    Club:
    Seattle Sounders
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
  24. Yoshou

    Yoshou Fan of the CCL Champ

    May 12, 2009
    Seattle
    Club:
    Seattle Sounders
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    I know I'm working both sides in this thread, but there is a difference between November/December play-off games and November/December regular season games.

    I think it is perfectly okay for people to acknowledge that the other side's concerns are valid.
     
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  25. Yoshou

    Yoshou Fan of the CCL Champ

    May 12, 2009
    Seattle
    Club:
    Seattle Sounders
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    I would add that MLS teams will also be able to sell players at a higher price at a more beneficial time. As an example, the Seattle Sounders are shopping Obed Vargas around. His value to a European team as a mid-season (winter) addition is less than if he were a beginning of season (summer) replacement. The Sounders are also more likely to accept an offer made to him during the summer than they would have been under the current calendar.

    Except FIFA is already talking about moving the World Cup to a Fall/Winter competition.

    Single table is a bit of a misnomer, isn't it? 5 of the spots will be assigned to division winners.

    How so? Apertura starts in early/Mid July and Clausura starts in mid January.. Liga MX will be a month into their season while MLS will be coming in from a 1 to 2 month break.
     

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