News: MLS owners approve fall-spring calendar and season format changes: Sources

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  1. wantmlsphilly

    wantmlsphilly Member+

    Aug 2, 2006
    Philadelphia, Pa.
    Club:
    Philadelphia Union
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    Putting Cascadia with Texas would make sense for winter/summer weather and keeping California together but weather relief doesn't seem to come into play for the North or Midwest. I like this even though Cascadia and Texas will be the biggest division when it comes distance traveled each season.
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    From a rivalry standpoint it makes more sense and keeps everything together for current rivalries out west. Only DC United would lose current rivalries but moving into the South gets them some attractive teams for their fans to play.
     
  2. TrueCrew

    TrueCrew Member+

    Dec 22, 2003
    Columbus, OH
    Club:
    Columbus Crew
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    I think they want to loosen the purse strings a bit. Slight raise in the cap, maybe a 4th DP/U22, etc. But they have to have the $$ to do it.

    But they also want to maintain parity (like the NFL) and make sure everyone has a shot.

    The stadium situations coming to fruition in Miami, NYC, and Chicago will be nice boosts. Those are premiere markets.

    NE/Boston and a path forward for the Whitecaps are the next two big ones in the near term. Seattle SSS in the medium term.
     
  3. JayRockers!

    JayRockers! Member+

    Aug 4, 2001
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  4. JayRockers!

    JayRockers! Member+

    Aug 4, 2001
    In addition, they’re dropping DC into a group of non-original teams that have had time to organically start their own rivalries. I’m afraid I don’t have another 20 years left to learn to hate Charlotte or Nashville. Two cities and geographic cultures I’m not interested in being from the Northeast.

    Thx,

    Jay!
     
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  5. owian

    owian Member+

    Liverpool FC, San Diego FC
    May 17, 2002
    San Diego
    Club:
    Liverpool FC
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    I realize no matter what happens there are going to be fan bases unhappy with where they end up but please keep San Diego with the two LA teams. It probably doesn't matter to the LA teams, they have each other, but it's huge to SD fans. There is already a huge sporting rivalry because of baseball, and basically we don't like LA full stop so it goes beyond sports. So please Don let us chant "Beat LA"!
     
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  6. pr0ner

    pr0ner Member+

    Jan 13, 2007
    Alexandria, VA
    Club:
    DC United
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    If they're really emphasizing geography over rivalries, why is DC separated from its three closest teams in what The Athletic is reporting?
     
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  7. STR1

    STR1 Member+

    Atlanta United
    United States
    May 29, 2010
    Club:
    Real Madrid
    They don't even have to add another DP. Just exclude the DPs from the salary budget completely. That opens up cap space (around $2.2M in freed up space give or take?) for the entire roster. Transfer fees and salaries for DPs are already paid for by the team anyway.


    We know that not everyone has a shot. At least 8-10 are competing while the rest are just fillers.
     
  8. mbar

    mbar Member+

    Apr 30, 1999
    Los Angeles, CA
    Club:
    Los Angeles Galaxy
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    That raises something that has been on my mind. It seems a no brainer that the cold weather games under the new schedule will be something more like 2pm local kick offs to make things as pleasant for fans as possible? Do we expect that to be the practice?
     
  9. STR1

    STR1 Member+

    Atlanta United
    United States
    May 29, 2010
    Club:
    Real Madrid
    I'm already seeing this complain but what they don't get is that now every team will play each other at least once. That's a huge improvement over what we have now that several teams go years without playing each other.

    Plus the divisions are just to round off the games to 34 by having your team play home and away against the ones in its division. The real kicker will be the single table, that's the one that will matter the most.
     
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  10. AlbertCamus

    AlbertCamus Member+

    Colorado Rapids
    Sep 2, 2005
    Colorado, USA
    Club:
    Colorado Rapids
    I hope so.
     
  11. Yoshou

    Yoshou Fan of the CCL Champ

    May 12, 2009
    Seattle
    Club:
    Seattle Sounders
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    You say this, but per Paul Tenorio and Tom Bogert, San Jose is not with the CA teams, which likely means it is Vancouver, Seattle, Portland, San Jose, RSL, Colorado. With LAFC, LAG, San Diego joining Austin, Dallas, and Houston.

    https://archive.is/XbrfO

     
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  12. AeroNaught

    AeroNaught Member+

    Atlanta United
    Feb 14, 2007
    Birmingham, AL
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    Right, I was saying your first scenario of Cascadia with the Texas teams I didn't see happening.
     
  13. Jeremy Goodwin

    Jeremy Goodwin Member+

    SSC Napoli
    Feb 16, 1999
    Club:
    Montreal Impact
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    DC is the fifth closest MLS market to Miami (excluding Miami), narrowly edging out Houston.

    Geographic compactness on the East Coast is satisfied, although all the old school MLS fans will stay grumpy.
     
  14. ArsenalMetro

    ArsenalMetro Member+

    United States
    Aug 5, 2008
    Chicago, IL
    Club:
    Arsenal FC
    The New York - DC rivalry has lost most of its steam since NYC and Philly came into the league anyway. I’m not all that broken up about it being an annual affair going forward.
     
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  15. ThreeApples

    ThreeApples Member+

    Jul 28, 1999
    Smurf Village
    Club:
    San Jose Earthquakes
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    The first few weeks of the 2026, which correspond to one of the difficult parts of the schedule under the new system, have some indication of that, with several early games each week.

    Week 1: STL, CIN, LAG
    Week 2: CHI, NYR, COL, MIN, ATX, PHI
    Week 3: NER, NYC, DCU, NYR, CIN
    Week 4: ATL, CLB, NER, SJE
    Week 5: PHI, CIN, NYC, MIN, POR, SD

    Some of those are for FOX timeslots, but most of them seem to be just a scheduling choice.
     
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  16. pr0ner

    pr0ner Member+

    Jan 13, 2007
    Alexandria, VA
    Club:
    DC United
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    No it's not.
     
  17. Yoshou

    Yoshou Fan of the CCL Champ

    May 12, 2009
    Seattle
    Club:
    Seattle Sounders
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    Dang it. I completely misread your post. ;)
     
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  18. superdave

    superdave Member+

    Jul 14, 1999
    Raleigh NC
    Club:
    DC United
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    What is then? Charlotte, Orlando, Atlanta, Nashville, DC? What did I miss?
     
  19. Mantis Toboggan M.D.

    Philadelphia Union
    United States
    Jul 8, 2017
    Having watched the league literally since the inaugural game, seeing them split up the last 2 remaining OG 1996 rivalries for no good reason sucks.

    DC might be trickier but there's no reason they can't group the 4 California teams with Colorado and RSL and then pair Cascadia with Texas.
     
  20. pr0ner

    pr0ner Member+

    Jan 13, 2007
    Alexandria, VA
    Club:
    DC United
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    Geographic compactness is not satisfied by keeping DC away from the three teams it is physically closest to.
     
  21. STR1

    STR1 Member+

    Atlanta United
    United States
    May 29, 2010
    Club:
    Real Madrid
    The travel. Someone is getting screwed over no matter what pairing they do but getting screwed over for doing longer travels is worse than playing your rival only once in a year instead of two times.
     
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  22. ArsenalMetro

    ArsenalMetro Member+

    United States
    Aug 5, 2008
    Chicago, IL
    Club:
    Arsenal FC
    What would your solution be that doesn't leave someone isolated?
     
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  23. ThreeApples

    ThreeApples Member+

    Jul 28, 1999
    Smurf Village
    Club:
    San Jose Earthquakes
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    The travel difference amounts to an average of 1.5 games per season. Everybody travels to half of their non-division oppenents anyway, so that's an average of 1.5 trips to Texas for PNW teams. If they got grouped in the same division, that number goes up to 3. As a share of the overall travel over a season, it's not that much of a difference.

    Grouping San Jose with PNW instead of SoCal both increases San Jose's travel for those 1.5 games and splits it from rivals.

    Also, SoCal + Texas isn't exactly a geographically compact, low-travel division.
     
  24. superdave

    superdave Member+

    Jul 14, 1999
    Raleigh NC
    Club:
    DC United
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    Ok, I thought you were saying DC is the 6th or 7th closest club.
     
  25. pr0ner

    pr0ner Member+

    Jan 13, 2007
    Alexandria, VA
    Club:
    DC United
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    This was my suggestion that Andrew Wiebe amplified on Twitter and on an MLS Youtube show last month:

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