MLS & NBC Sports have agreed on a 3-year deal

Discussion in 'MLS: News & Analysis' started by CenterForward, Aug 10, 2011.

  1. LordRobin

    LordRobin Member+

    Sep 1, 2006
    Akron, OH
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    Cleveland C. S.
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    United States
    To me, that makes sense. If KONG's broadcast deal with the Sounders involved them paying for the rights, I don't think MLS/SUM or anyone can legally say "Sorry, but we're taking this game for the national network. You can't broadcast it. Sucks to be you." Not without compensating them in some way.

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  2. derek750

    derek750 Member+

    Apr 16, 2007
    Brooklyn
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    Philadelphia Union
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    United States
    The game turned out to be on MLS Live after all. Talk about full of sound and fury, signifying nothing. :D
     
  3. JJ Mindset

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  4. Fiosfan

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    Mar 21, 2010
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    New York City FC
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  5. redinthemorning

    redinthemorning Member+

    Apr 26, 2011
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    Houston Dynamo
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    United States
    Now that the network has year-round programming (assuming the NHL ever comes back, but I'm not bitter or anything), NBCSN's distribution was the last impediment to really competing with ESPN.
     
  6. MLSFan123

    MLSFan123 Member+

    Mar 21, 2011
    Boston Area
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    New England Revolution
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    That article is not quite correct. NBCSN has been available in numerous Direct TV packages outside of the Sports Pack. I believe any package at Choice XTra or higher included the channel.

    I don't know if the move today adds it to the lowest tier packages but it is not listed in those low packs on the Direct TV web site.
     
  7. UnionFreak1

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  8. JJ Mindset

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  9. LordRobin

    LordRobin Member+

    Sep 1, 2006
    Akron, OH
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    Cleveland C. S.
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    United States
    In other words, roughly 99.97% of homes that get ESPN also get ESPN2. Isn't that good enough to stop talking about them as though they were networks with different audiences?

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  10. MLSFan123

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    Mar 21, 2011
    Boston Area
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    New England Revolution
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    United States
    You definitely need to talk about them as different networks because the general populace still treats them differently even if they are available in the same number of homes.

    You could have the identical programming on ESPN2 and ESPN and almost 100% of the time, ESPN will draw better ratings than ESPN2.
     
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  11. LordRobin

    LordRobin Member+

    Sep 1, 2006
    Akron, OH
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    Cleveland C. S.
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    United States
    I understand that ESPN gets better ratings than ESPN2, but I always figured that was due to ESPN placing the best programming and spending the most marketing on its flagship network. I don't see where the difference comes from otherwise. The two networks are always right beside each other in the lineup. I've always thought of ESPN2 as "just another ESPN channel".

    Is there really some segment of the viewing population that looks at the cable listings and says "Ooh, soccer! I shall watch-- WAIT! ESPN...2??? Pshaw! No pedestrian B-list network shall sully my TV!"

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  12. Stan Collins

    Stan Collins Member+

    Feb 26, 1999
    Silver Spring, MD
    Well, the thing is, this last sentence is actually different in a subtle but important way from the rest of your description. The difference is habituation. If ESPN put the same quality of programming on the two channels, the ratings would not meet in the middle over night because people who have always thought of ESPN2 as "just another ESPN channel" (emphasis on the just is mine) don't change that conception right away. It could also be argued that they never get 100% equal ratings that way, because the mere sticking of the '2' on the end is just slightly diminutive.

    (They aren't actually always right next to each other, though ESPN carry charges go up if you put them apart, so it's an incentive not to do that.)

    No. . .there's a segment that never looks at what's on ESPN2 in the first place, because ESPN has trained them not to. MLS falls through that net; time and time again, basically the same type of game has been shown on ESPN as one that's on ESPN2 and it will get 2 or 3 times the viewership on the former as the latter.
     
  13. ElJefe

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    Feb 16, 1999
    Colorful Colorado
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    FC Dallas
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    United States
    There's a reason why ESPN has been putting the third-tier bowl games on ESPN2 as opposed to ESPN.
     
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  14. AndyMead

    AndyMead Homo Sapien

    Nov 2, 1999
    Seat 12A
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    Sporting Kansas City
    There's a cultivated mindset that if there's nothing worth watching on ESPN, then switching to espn2 isn't going to help. To be honest, I'm surprised that ESPNU continues to survive in a land where ESPN is pushing more and more college content to the web (aka ESPN3).
     
  15. El Duderino

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  17. Indiscretion

    Indiscretion Member

    Aug 6, 2007
    Atlanta, GA
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    Toronto FC
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    United States
    I really hope NBC shows the Open Cup final this year
     
  18. MasterShake29

    MasterShake29 Member+

    Oct 28, 2001
    Jersey City, NJ
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    New York Red Bulls
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    United States
    GolTV, which has the rights to 2013 & 2014, will have to want to give it up, presuming they remain in business that long.

    But yes.
     
  19. Inca Roads

    Inca Roads Member+

    Nov 22, 2012
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    GolTV has it for that long? Bummer. No one actually has GolTV, as far as I can gather. Just a step up from BeIN Sports...
     
  20. MLSFan123

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    Mar 21, 2011
    Boston Area
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    New England Revolution
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    United States
    GolTV is not a step up from beIN Sport in terms of household penetration. beIN Sport is in significantly more homes now than Gol TV. A combination of Gol TV being dropped by some carriers and beIN Sport being added.

    In order of household penetration for English language soccer related programming, it goes like this

    NBC, ESPN, ESPN2, NBCSN, FSC, beIN Sport, Gol TV.
     
  21. SoccerPrime

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    All of them
    Apr 14, 2003
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    My basic cable has beIN Sports but not Fox Soccer. I think beIN is bigger than FSC now.
     
  22. AndyMead

    AndyMead Homo Sapien

    Nov 2, 1999
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    And if it isn't, it likely will be in the coming year.
     
  23. Fanatical Monk

    Fanatical Monk Member+

    Jun 14, 2011
    Fantasyland
    Ain't that the truth. FSC seems like a dead man walking unless they can come up with some programming soon. No MLS, Laliga, Serie A, EPL. What's left? US open cup, SPL and college soccer aren't going to keep the lights on. I'm surprised FSP is still around. Surely that will be gone unless there is a bigger rugby demand than I think there is. Rebrand back to FSW?
     
  24. HailtotheKing

    HailtotheKing Member+

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    Dec 1, 2008
    TEXAS
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    San Antonio Scorpions FC
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    United States
    Such is the case with DirecTV in my area (San Antonio). When it was installed the pamphlet channel guide still had GolTV listed, but the channel is in fact beIN Sports NOT GolTV.
     
  25. MLSFan123

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    Mar 21, 2011
    Boston Area
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    New England Revolution
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    Direct TV made this change nationally on September 13th.
     

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