PBP: MLS N&A Running USMNT and other International Games Thread {R}

Discussion in 'MLS: News & Analysis' started by jaykoz3, Mar 19, 2023.

  1. STR1

    STR1 Member+

    Atlanta United
    United States
    May 29, 2010
    Club:
    Real Madrid
    Yea, it was time for Berhalter to go after that Copa America results. But many were always blaming him (and MLS players) and never the European players. Calling it the best US players ever and the golden generation. Coaching helps but these players are way overhyped just cause "Europe". If Poch doesn't improve significantly wonder if these fans will keep on blaming everyone else but the players.
     
  2. ArsenalMetro

    ArsenalMetro Member+

    United States
    Aug 5, 2008
    Chicago, IL
    Club:
    Arsenal FC
    Lol find me someone who was penciling Ream in for 2026 period, much less for that reason.

    The fact that he made it to 2022 is his first miracle for sainthood.
     
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  3. JasonMa

    JasonMa Member+

    Mar 20, 2000
    Arvada, CO
    Club:
    Colorado Rapids
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    Same group that blamed Shaq Moore in 2022 even though he had 95% of his appearances in Europe and he'd been in MLS less than half a season at that point.
     
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  4. jaykoz3

    jaykoz3 Member+

    Dec 25, 2010
    Conshohocken, PA
    Club:
    Philadelphia Union
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    Has Ream even made his debut for Charlotte yet?
     
  5. STR1

    STR1 Member+

    Atlanta United
    United States
    May 29, 2010
    Club:
    Real Madrid
    It was all over Twitter. This was of course prior to him coming to MLS. Now he is a bum with zero ambition.

    Yes.
     
  6. Elninho

    Elninho Member+

    Sacramento Republic FC
    United States
    Oct 30, 2000
    Sacramento, CA
    Club:
    Los Angeles Galaxy
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    #4256 Elninho, Sep 7, 2024
    Last edited: Sep 7, 2024
    I see Berhalter is still being blamed because, supposedly, a good team can function on its own without a coach but he destroyed the chemistry.

    When the team looked good under interim coaches in 2023, the narrative was that it was proof that Berhalter was just getting in the players' way.

    No matter the result, it would have been spun as proof of Berhalter's incompetence.
     
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  7. carnifex2005

    carnifex2005 Member+

    Jul 1, 2008
    Club:
    Vancouver Whitecaps
    Wow, I had no idea it has been this long...



    I only watched the highlights but both goals were off seemingly lazy and/or disorganized play by the US. I'm guessing that will not fly for long if Poch comes.
     
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  8. jaykoz3

    jaykoz3 Member+

    Dec 25, 2010
    Conshohocken, PA
    Club:
    Philadelphia Union
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
     
  9. Chesco United

    Chesco United Member+

    DC United
    Jun 24, 2001
    Chester County, PA
    Club:
    DC United
    Nat'l Team:
    Argentina
    France leads Belgium 1-0 in the UEFA Nations League.
     
  10. Elninho

    Elninho Member+

    Sacramento Republic FC
    United States
    Oct 30, 2000
    Sacramento, CA
    Club:
    Los Angeles Galaxy
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    One other thing about the Canada game: it was the first time in 2024 that we had gone for an entire half without a shot on goal. According to my social media feeds, this is Gregg's fault, of course, even though it was the only USMNT game so far in 2024 that Gregg didn't coach.
     
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  11. morrissey

    morrissey Moderator
    Staff Member

    Feb 18, 2000
    West Los Angeles, Calif
    Club:
    DC United
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    This is some kind of take - his team, his assistants, his (lack of) tactics, we have no new coach, no new tactics and you expected something else.
     
  12. JasonMa

    JasonMa Member+

    Mar 20, 2000
    Arvada, CO
    Club:
    Colorado Rapids
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    There were plenty of the same fans who blames Gregg for all our problems lauding what BJ did when he was in charge. Same players, same coaches, we have no new coach, etc. Why didn't that apply to BJ?
     
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  13. morrissey

    morrissey Moderator
    Staff Member

    Feb 18, 2000
    West Los Angeles, Calif
    Club:
    DC United
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    Pretty sure Jessie Marsch mentioned his preparations were based on Berhalters tactics and noted the interim coach was using that system. Can't find the quote at the moment but read it recently. So this is not about BJ this is about how Canada prepared to play against whatever Berhalter's tactics are and managed to win.
     
  14. JasonMa

    JasonMa Member+

    Mar 20, 2000
    Arvada, CO
    Club:
    Colorado Rapids
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    No, this is how people are applying a double standard to the team being coached by a former Gregg assistant based on the result. One coaches and wins "See, we're so much better without Gregg". One coaches and loses "See Gregg is still the fundamental problem even when he's not coaching". Its either one or the other guys,
     
  15. JayRockers!

    JayRockers! Member+

    Aug 4, 2001


     
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  16. JayRockers!

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    Aug 4, 2001
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  17. sitruc

    sitruc Member+

    Jul 25, 2006
    Virginia
    A goal happened.
     
  18. sitruc

    sitruc Member+

    Jul 25, 2006
    Virginia
    Wow. Ref talked it over with the AR and says no goal for a foul. There wasn't much there.
     
  19. morrissey

    morrissey Moderator
    Staff Member

    Feb 18, 2000
    West Los Angeles, Calif
    Club:
    DC United
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    No - it really can be both. We can suck with Gregg and without Gregg using Gregg's "tactics". The whole point is that we are better off without him and with new tactics.
     
  20. Namrog The Just

    Namrog The Just Member+

    L.A. Galaxy
    United States
    Jul 2, 2007
    Baltimore County, Maryland
    Club:
    Los Angeles Galaxy
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    It's also quite possible that we'll suck without Greg and without his tactics.
     
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  21. carnifex2005

    carnifex2005 Member+

    Jul 1, 2008
    Club:
    Vancouver Whitecaps
    I thought this snippet from the US Soccer press release was interesting...

    Pochettino’s appointment is supported in significant part by a philanthropic leadership gift from Kenneth C. Griffin, Founder and CEO of Citadel and Founder of Griffin Catalyst. Additional support has been provided by Scott Goodwin, Co-Founder and Managing Partner of Diameter, and several commercial partners.

    So both Canada and the US have had to go hat in hand to 3rd party donors for their coaches. That's rather sad.
     
  22. morrissey

    morrissey Moderator
    Staff Member

    Feb 18, 2000
    West Los Angeles, Calif
    Club:
    DC United
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    #4272 morrissey, Sep 10, 2024
    Last edited: Sep 10, 2024
    100% possible. It just will be an all new type of suck that we can discuss without the baggage of the last suck.

    At least it is almost 100% guaranteed that we will qualify for the WQ. /s
     
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  23. JasonMa

    JasonMa Member+

    Mar 20, 2000
    Arvada, CO
    Club:
    Colorado Rapids
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    As a Rapids fan I can expertly attest that its a bad sign when the U.S. can't score against a team starting Tommy Smith on the back line...
     
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  24. jaykoz3

    jaykoz3 Member+

    Dec 25, 2010
    Conshohocken, PA
    Club:
    Philadelphia Union
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    Pulisic Goal, 1-0 USA
     
  25. JayRockers!

    JayRockers! Member+

    Aug 4, 2001
    Caleb Wiley experiment over.
     

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