PBP: MLS N&A Running USMNT and other International Games Thread {R}

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  1. sitruc

    sitruc Member+

    Jul 25, 2006
    Virginia
    #2801 sitruc, Jun 8, 2024
    ******** this day.
     
  2. JayRockers!

    JayRockers! Member+

    Aug 4, 2001
    #2802 JayRockers!, Jun 8, 2024
    2-2
     
  3. sitruc

    sitruc Member+

    Jul 25, 2006
    Virginia
    #2803 sitruc, Jun 8, 2024
    O Mexico...
     
  4. JayRockers!

    JayRockers! Member+

    Aug 4, 2001
    #2804 JayRockers!, Jun 8, 2024
    Hahaha 2-3
     
  5. JayRockers!

    JayRockers! Member+

    Aug 4, 2001
    #2805 JayRockers!, Jun 8, 2024
    Lozano looks like he has jaundice.
     
  6. KCbus

    KCbus Moderator
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    United States
    Nov 26, 2000
    Reynoldsburg, OH
    Club:
    Columbus Crew
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    #2806 KCbus, Jun 9, 2024
    USMNT fans have been telling me for years that the magic formula was just to get a whole bunch of players playing for big European teams/leagues. Am I to believe that they've been misleading me all this time?
     
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  7. An Unpaved Road

    An Unpaved Road Member+

    Mar 22, 2006
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    #2807 An Unpaved Road, Jun 9, 2024
    If Trapp didn’t play in those friendlies in 2018 we would’ve easily beaten Colombia yesterday.
     
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  8. morrissey

    morrissey Moderator
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    Feb 18, 2000
    West Los Angeles, Calif
    Club:
    DC United
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    United States
    #2808 morrissey, Jun 9, 2024
    of course. It’s that simple. It couldn’t possibly be a poorly coached team of talented players. A good coach can elevate a team of talented players and a bad coach lowers their capabilities. We have a bad coach. 11 euro players are essentially playing a pickup game every time they take the field. It would be the exact same for a team of 11 MLS players or any combination in between.
     
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  9. KCbus

    KCbus Moderator
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    United States
    Nov 26, 2000
    Reynoldsburg, OH
    Club:
    Columbus Crew
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    #2809 KCbus, Jun 9, 2024
    Hey bite me -- I don't need your nuance. :)

    Yes, I'm mostly having a go at dumb people. Of course it's not that simple. But that hasn't stopped tons of people over the years from trying to tell me it was.
     
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  10. Paul Berry

    Paul Berry Member+

    Notts County and NYCFC
    United States
    Apr 18, 2015
    Nr Kingston NY
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    #2810 Paul Berry, Jun 9, 2024
    Christ, its one match.
     
  11. KCbus

    KCbus Moderator
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    United States
    Nov 26, 2000
    Reynoldsburg, OH
    Club:
    Columbus Crew
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    #2811 KCbus, Jun 9, 2024
    I don’t need your nuance, either. :D
     
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  12. jaykoz3

    jaykoz3 Member+

    Dec 25, 2010
    Conshohocken, PA
    Club:
    Philadelphia Union
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    #2812 jaykoz3, Jun 9, 2024
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  13. Ismitje

    Ismitje Super Moderator

    Dec 30, 2000
    The Palouse
    Club:
    Real Salt Lake
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    #2813 Ismitje, Jun 10, 2024
    Meh. If we don't go deep in the tournament to include a win over a top South American side, change coaches. No need for it to be a super big deal. We were utterly garbage on defense in the last one and a repeat would be damning.
     
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  14. AlbertCamus

    AlbertCamus Member+

    Colorado Rapids
    Sep 2, 2005
    Colorado, USA
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    #2814 AlbertCamus, Jun 10, 2024
    My understanding is this tournament and next summer’s gold cups are preseason for the 2026 World Cup, so no need to panic; we’re not even halfway through preseason!
     
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  15. wantmlsphilly

    wantmlsphilly Member+

    Aug 2, 2006
    Philadelphia, Pa.
    Club:
    Philadelphia Union
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    #2815 wantmlsphilly, Jun 10, 2024
    Bad news for the Leagues Cup haters.
     
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  16. morrissey

    morrissey Moderator
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    Feb 18, 2000
    West Los Angeles, Calif
    Club:
    DC United
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    United States
    #2816 morrissey, Jun 11, 2024
    One can still despise the mid season cash grab despite the fact that others do not.
     
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  17. Paul Berry

    Paul Berry Member+

    Notts County and NYCFC
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    Apr 18, 2015
    Nr Kingston NY
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    #2817 Paul Berry, Jun 11, 2024
    It's all a cash grab. All professional sport is a cash grab.
     
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  18. wantmlsphilly

    wantmlsphilly Member+

    Aug 2, 2006
    Philadelphia, Pa.
    Club:
    Philadelphia Union
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    #2818 wantmlsphilly, Jun 11, 2024
    Self loathing is all about the individual.
     
  19. morrissey

    morrissey Moderator
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    Feb 18, 2000
    West Los Angeles, Calif
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    DC United
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    United States
    #2819 morrissey, Jun 11, 2024
    Yes. That said, those that only assign value and relevance to sport based on revenue and viewership are arguing that leagues cup is more legit than the US Open Cup. That seems like rationalizing.
     
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  20. Paul Berry

    Paul Berry Member+

    Notts County and NYCFC
    United States
    Apr 18, 2015
    Nr Kingston NY
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    #2820 Paul Berry, Jun 11, 2024
    It's weird how people take sides when they feel attacked.

    The Open Cup, MLS, CCC and Leagues Cup are all legitimate competitions. Competitions take time to get established.

    The Europa League started as a competition between cities that had hosted international trade expos

    The EFL League Cup was a money generating response to the unexpected success of the European Cup and also helped cover the cost of newly installed floodlights.

    The UEFA Conference League has absolutely no purpose other than generate money for those teams just outside the elite. I mean, what does Olympiacos's win actually mean from a competitive standpoint?

    If the Leagues Cup is still going in ten years no-one will question its legitimacy. I really want the format to change though so we don't have to cancel a whole month of the regular season.
     
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  21. wantmlsphilly

    wantmlsphilly Member+

    Aug 2, 2006
    Philadelphia, Pa.
    Club:
    Philadelphia Union
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    #2821 wantmlsphilly, Jun 11, 2024
    Blame the planet for this. It's too big on this side of the world, it's too hot and cold at the same time, and the other leagues in CONCACAF come from some of the smallest countries and economies.
    .
    If you did change the time to play, what competition would you like to take on? NBA & NHL finals or the NFL? Because the MLB in late July & August has most the teams out of it but not quite into the playoff run.
     
  22. morrissey

    morrissey Moderator
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    Feb 18, 2000
    West Los Angeles, Calif
    Club:
    DC United
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    #2822 morrissey, Jun 11, 2024
    I've pretty much been consistent about the mid season break as my real issue. I just don't care enough about the tournament itself but the break just makes the whole season longer and we don't have roster depth for the amount of games and an 11 month long season.
     
  23. Paul Berry

    Paul Berry Member+

    Notts County and NYCFC
    United States
    Apr 18, 2015
    Nr Kingston NY
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    #2823 Paul Berry, Jun 11, 2024
    Group stage over 8/9 days the week after the Liga MX final.

    Knockout stages in August.

    Teams that didn't make the knockout stage would have the option to rearrange regular season games on those weekends, ensuring they don't end up with multiple blank weeks.
     
  24. KCbus

    KCbus Moderator
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    United States
    Nov 26, 2000
    Reynoldsburg, OH
    Club:
    Columbus Crew
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    #2824 KCbus, Jun 11, 2024
    It's definitely BUSIER. But longer? MLS Cup last season was on December 9. MLS Cup has been held in December ten times in the last thirteen years.

    Having another team, thus guaranteeing that you don't need a bye week on every matchday, which starts next year, will help.
     
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  25. wantmlsphilly

    wantmlsphilly Member+

    Aug 2, 2006
    Philadelphia, Pa.
    Club:
    Philadelphia Union
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    #2825 wantmlsphilly, Jun 11, 2024
    How do you sell season tickets then? So you might be playing but you might not, will let you know. Your bigger problem is all the sponsors from last year signed back up and they gained even more new ones.
    https://www.insideworldfootball.com...nveiled-leagues-cup-sponsors-multi-year-deal/

    https://www.prnewswire.com/news-rel...s-partnership-with-leagues-cup-302164043.html
     
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