MLS in the U.S. Open Cup [R]

Discussion in 'MLS: News & Analysis' started by ArsenalMetro, May 23, 2012.

  1. crookeddy

    crookeddy Member+

    Apr 27, 2004
    And what do you figure I discovered from those attendances? The Galaxy can get 10k when they make the game available to season ticket holders. Half of them won't bother showing up. Plus, I feel that the team's core support has actually decreased significantly. Same for Dallas. No advertising = no crowd.
     
  2. ElJefe

    ElJefe Moderator
    Staff Member

    Feb 16, 1999
    Colorful Colorado
    Club:
    FC Dallas
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    Dallas' core support has decreased significantly since 2007?

    That's news to, well, anyone who's been paying attention.
     
  3. Unak78

    Unak78 BigSoccer Supporter

    Dec 17, 2007
    PSG & Enyimba FC
    Club:
    Chelsea FC
    Nat'l Team:
    Nigeria
    !

    They're not gonna leave it like that, will they? The LSP interior decorator in me will freak, that's way crooked.
     
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  4. Rulas

    Rulas BigSoccer Supporter

    Apr 3, 2007
    Chicago
    Club:
    Chicago Fire
    Just saw the pk's. Zusi and EJ... Yikes
     
  5. Oobers

    Oobers Member+

    Oct 17, 2011
    Boise
    Club:
    Sporting Kansas City
    The term was #PaintTheWall not #LetYourGoalieClumsilyStickerTheWall
     
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  6. Unak78

    Unak78 BigSoccer Supporter

    Dec 17, 2007
    PSG & Enyimba FC
    Club:
    Chelsea FC
    Nat'l Team:
    Nigeria
    Yeah, I feel slightly deceived by your team that no actual paint was involved. :p
     
  7. Oobers

    Oobers Member+

    Oct 17, 2011
    Boise
    Club:
    Sporting Kansas City
    Should have just handed Jimmy a brush and a bucket of paint and let him go to town on the wall.
     
  8. Unak78

    Unak78 BigSoccer Supporter

    Dec 17, 2007
    PSG & Enyimba FC
    Club:
    Chelsea FC
    Nat'l Team:
    Nigeria
    Who knows, the numbers might have been straighter.
     
  9. Sachsen

    Sachsen Member+

    Aug 8, 2003
    Broken Arrow, Okla.
    Club:
    Sporting Kansas City
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    EJ... yes. Same with Alonso. Guys have got to keep those down.

    But I have no problem with Zusi's. Yes, he put it over. But I like the guts. It takes chutzpah to even think about trying that, and that's what I want in my team. So he missed it. I still like the idea.

    Note that if we would have lost, my feelings may have been entirely different :p
     
  10. Unak78

    Unak78 BigSoccer Supporter

    Dec 17, 2007
    PSG & Enyimba FC
    Club:
    Chelsea FC
    Nat'l Team:
    Nigeria
    Why do idiots like this have to waste air?
    http://espn.go.com/sports/conversat...ng-kansas-city-wins-us-open-cup-penalty-kicks

    Really!?!


    What a moron!
     
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  11. SombraAla

    SombraAla Member+

    Apr 2, 2006
    Waldo (Kansas City)
    Club:
    Sporting Kansas City
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    [Posting here what I posted in one of the MLSSoccer.com articles]

    Was able to find a video made in the stands and used that to do the comparison of Nielsen's save of Tiffert and Gspurning's save of Nagamura to answer the "why wasn't Nielsen's save called back?" question:



    Sure, they're both off their line at the time the ball is hit, but Gspurning starts coming off his line earlier:
    Frame 140 - Gspurning is starts to move off of line
    Frame 143 - First foot is off line
    Frame 150 - Gspurning is completely off of his line (both feet down)
    Frame 175 - Nielsen starts to move off of line (both feet)
    Frame 178 - Nielsen starts is off of his line (still in air, though, even)
    Frame 180 - Nielsen plants right foot off of line
    Frame 185 - Ball is struck (both videos)

    At 30 FPS, Gspurning is off his line roughly a second earlier than Nielsen.

    Furthermore, Nielsen is off his line for about 0.2-0.3 seconds before the ball is struck... so I feel, at least, that expecting the ref to see that is asking a lot.
     
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  12. PassionOfTheFoot

    Feb 12, 2002
    Incheon, South Korea
    Club:
    Seattle Sounders
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    Yeah I thought on replays that Nielsen was a little more cheeky with his approach of coming off the line compared to Gspurning. Fair enough. The second it went into pks we were done for anyway. I don't want to look up our pk percentage but it's bad. Brad Evans continues to be the only consistent shooter.
     
  13. Dirt McGirt

    Dirt McGirt Member+

    Jun 20, 2005
    Phoenix, AZ
    Club:
    Seattle Sounders
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    That was a hard match to watch as a Sounders fan. I knew from the opening whistle what the end result was going to be and if the Sounders had to lose I'm glad it was to a club like Sporting KC. That looked and felt like what a cup final should be.
     
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  14. VioletCrown

    VioletCrown Member+

    FC Dallas
    United States
    Aug 30, 2000
    Austin, Texas
    Club:
    Austin Aztex
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    Yeesh. OK, be anal about it. Yes, in 2007 Dallas did better than 10k. By 618. And to pick on my LA comment? You'll note that I did say "Galaxy could have a 'middle of the week, school' limitation as an excuse."... which is pretty much exactly what that 2005 number states.

    I guess I'm not allowed to agree that there are still some weak spots in the league while trying to take crookeddy to task for only looking at the down side of things. Feeling a little like I'm being chastised by Solo.;)
     
  15. Churchill913

    Churchill913 Member

    Nov 17, 2010
    Kansas City
    Club:
    Sporting Kansas City
    Completely agree. this is the video proof of Gspurning starting off the line before Nagamura strikes the ball. Nielsen has a technique of dragging his right foot to make it look like he is still on the line. IMO, the hop off the line that most keepers use just as the shooter plants his foot is the movement that is not called. However, starting off the line as the shooter is still approaching the ball is different.
     
  16. ElJefe

    ElJefe Moderator
    Staff Member

    Feb 16, 1999
    Colorful Colorado
    Club:
    FC Dallas
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    Consider it a gentle reminder that this is the "MLS: News & ANALysis" forum, not the "MLS: News & Handwaving" forum, which goes by the name "MLS: General." ;)
     
  17. Oobers

    Oobers Member+

    Oct 17, 2011
    Boise
    Club:
    Sporting Kansas City
    I'm pretty sure the last time SKC (or KC Wizards) participated in a PK shootout was when we lost to the (USL) Sounders in '08.
     
  18. Buzz Killington

    Buzz Killington Member+

    Oct 6, 2002
    Lee's Summit
    Club:
    Kansas City Wizards
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    2009 vs Minnesota in the Open Cup. We're 3-2 in PK shootouts.
     
  19. Yoshou

    Yoshou Fan of the CCL Champ

    May 12, 2009
    Seattle
    Club:
    Seattle Sounders
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    I miss the days when the Sounders were good at taking PKs.. We have to have the worst success rates in the league at this point.
     
  20. Oobers

    Oobers Member+

    Oct 17, 2011
    Boise
    Club:
    Sporting Kansas City
    Ah thanks, for whatever reason the 2008 one stood out.
     
  21. AndyMead

    AndyMead Homo Sapien

    Nov 2, 1999
    Seat 12A
    Club:
    Sporting Kansas City
    Because we sabotaged a USOC run. After playing 5 guys nobody had heard of in Carolina and making the mistake of putting Claudio Lopez in trailing 2-0 in the 70th and winning 4-2 a.e.t.. We then sent nobody to Seattle (USL1) the following week, starting 10 guys nobody had heard of with Conrad and Harrington on the bench being the only notable players, then somehow managing to get to 120 minutes 0-0.

    Not that I'm still bitter or anything.
     
  22. Oobers

    Oobers Member+

    Oct 17, 2011
    Boise
    Club:
    Sporting Kansas City
    Ah yes, just took a look at the PK takers and while I recognize almost every one on there, I'm still trying to remember who Ryan McMahen was.
     
  23. Buzz Killington

    Buzz Killington Member+

    Oct 6, 2002
    Lee's Summit
    Club:
    Kansas City Wizards
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    He played in 4 games over 3 seasons, all US Open Cup games. Then played for the Austin Aztex.
     
  24. Felixx219

    Felixx219 BigSoccer Supporter

    Nov 8, 2004
    Kansas City, MO
    Club:
    Kansas City Wizards
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    Yeah, I remember that and wasnt happy considering that was about the only thing we could realistically win that season.

    I dont know what will happen next year being in the CONCACAF Champions League but I hope we continue taking the USOC seriously.
     
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  25. Felixx219

    Felixx219 BigSoccer Supporter

    Nov 8, 2004
    Kansas City, MO
    Club:
    Kansas City Wizards
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    Opening whistle? Didnt the double rainbow appearing over the stadium before the game started tell you anything? We basically won the game at that point, the Seattle fans should have just packed their shit up and left LSP. :p
     
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