MLS GAME DAY 13: RSL hosts PTFC Wednesday, May 14, 7:30pm

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  1. 15 to 32

    15 to 32 Straw Hog

    Jul 1, 2008
    Salt Lake
    Club:
    Real Salt Lake
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    I think the entire stadium sighed as it happened. It was more sad than frustrating
     
  2. 15 to 32

    15 to 32 Straw Hog

    Jul 1, 2008
    Salt Lake
    Club:
    Real Salt Lake
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    I’ll take that bet
    Hell, I’d put Agada over / under at 6.5 goals for 2025
     
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  3. Med_Phys

    Med_Phys Member+

    RSL
    United States
    Jun 20, 2019
    Terre Haute, IN
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    Meet me at the season finale in STL and we'll settle up.
     
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  4. RSLer

    RSLer Member+

    Sep 24, 2008
    Stansbury Park, UT
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    Real Salt Lake
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    You aren’t counting the goals to come in the playoff run?
     
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  5. RSLer

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    Sep 24, 2008
    Stansbury Park, UT
    Club:
    Real Salt Lake
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    Piol and Gozo have pretty high ceilings imo but need playing time to get there. Last night Piol was much much better than Barea. Defenders have to account for Piol because he makes runs and recycles runs continuously. Last night no one even seemed to look his way when he did. He also was active in the defensive press.

    Gozo is getting more confident with each opportunity. His all around game needs work, other than the motor and the desire; but last night the main area for development that was apparent to me was that final decision to be made in the box.

    I think all of the above posts about Goncalves are accurate. Pablo alluded to the talent and skills last night and said he’s still finding his way with the team. At the same time we have to admit that he might never produce at a DP level here. The above observations about his lack of fight are disturbing. I was on the other side of the stadium and missed the details. In this league they will run right over you if you don’t fight. The dilemma is that Pablo can’t sit him. As I posted elsewhere, the highly paid players in American sports don’t sit.

    I think Russell was on the bench last night to be used only if we were a goal down late in the game where his defensive form wouldn’t have mattered.
     
  6. Med_Phys

    Med_Phys Member+

    RSL
    United States
    Jun 20, 2019
    Terre Haute, IN
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    Even I'm not optimistic enough that they make the playoffs. Leagues Cup games will count though.
     
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  7. SenordrummeR2

    SenordrummeR2 Member+

    Jul 21, 2008
    Layton, UT
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    Real Salt Lake
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    Unless we're talking about the NBA. Game load management is the worst thing introduced to pro sports...
     
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  8. 15 to 32

    15 to 32 Straw Hog

    Jul 1, 2008
    Salt Lake
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    Real Salt Lake
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    I’ll give you any meaningless friendlies scheduled too
     
  9. Med_Phys

    Med_Phys Member+

    RSL
    United States
    Jun 20, 2019
    Terre Haute, IN
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    That's free beer at 7 goals the rest of the year*

    *barring injury/the premise is that he's getting starting minutes.
     
  10. 15 to 32

    15 to 32 Straw Hog

    Jul 1, 2008
    Salt Lake
    Club:
    Real Salt Lake
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    The asterisk makes the bet null
    Take it?
     
  11. Med_Phys

    Med_Phys Member+

    RSL
    United States
    Jun 20, 2019
    Terre Haute, IN
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    I'll take the bet. I'm just not confident he'll play enough. Should be fun.
     
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  12. Allez RSL

    Allez RSL Member+

    Jun 20, 2007
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    Like in a 3-2-3-2 formation?
     
  13. Med_Phys

    Med_Phys Member+

    RSL
    United States
    Jun 20, 2019
    Terre Haute, IN
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    That's probably the only way to do if you want to play Eneli and Ojeda in the middle. Then you aren't playing Katranis.
     
  14. Allez RSL

    Allez RSL Member+

    Jun 20, 2007
    Home
    That's what I was thinking. Or a 4-1-3-2 with Katranis if you wanted to rest one of Eneli/Ojeda.
     
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    15 to 32 Straw Hog

    Jul 1, 2008
    Salt Lake
    Club:
    Real Salt Lake
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    Trevor from wasatch sentinel went right at Pablo in the postgame asking if there is actually competition for Diogos spot
    Pablo says the backup only has 2 professional games… who is he talking about?
     
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    15 to 32 Straw Hog

    Jul 1, 2008
    Salt Lake
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    Real Salt Lake
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    Also
    Drinking game for when Pablo says “again”
     
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  17. DrownedElf

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    Jul 5, 2010
    Ogden
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    Real Salt Lake
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    United States
    Saying Russell would be a defensive liability seems like such a weak excuse. I'm not saying play him for 45, but I'm sure he could easily go 10-15. Worse than a completely gassed Luna, or Diogo who doesn't fight for anything?
     
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  18. Med_Phys

    Med_Phys Member+

    RSL
    United States
    Jun 20, 2019
    Terre Haute, IN
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    It's not Wolff. Could be referring to Brook or Barea. Neither has two starts (3&1). Hard to believe that Barea has already passed Brook and Wolff (60 appearances) if that's what he's implying. There's some big whiffs from the club lately that's been pretty solid with their signings over the last several windows.

    So many guys need to be playing at the Monarchs if they aren't playing with RSL, but there's such a huge difference between that and MLS that I'm not sure that's even the best idea.
     
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  19. Med_Phys

    Med_Phys Member+

    RSL
    United States
    Jun 20, 2019
    Terre Haute, IN
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    Exactly, especially in a 3 games in 8 days situation. I believe only 3 subs were used on Wednesday. Crazy.
     
  20. 15 to 32

    15 to 32 Straw Hog

    Jul 1, 2008
    Salt Lake
    Club:
    Real Salt Lake
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    Correct
    Pablo’s unwillingness to play Russell is crazy
    That he rode a visibly slower Luna the full 90 was crazy. He got lucky to not give up a goal late so that sort of justifies not subbing across the back, but I’d rather he go for it at home
     
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  21. RSLer

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    Sep 24, 2008
    Stansbury Park, UT
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    Real Salt Lake
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    This might seem to be counterintuitive, but I think keeping Luna in was, actually, Pablo going for it. I interpreted it as him thinking Luna gave us our better chance to score.
     
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  22. RSL Wonderbra

    RSL Wonderbra Member

    Jan 30, 2013
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    Real Salt Lake
    We basically play 3 in the back in the attack. Katranis pushes WAY up, even in front of Eneli/Ojeda. Our RB typically holds a bit more defensive shape.

    Ojeda/Eneli sometimes invert but typically remain a double pivot.

    Then you have Luna floating or way up playing next to the striker, Diogo in the CAM spot, Marczuk on one wing, and the other wing sometimes moves ahead and towards the middle.

    So it is basically a 3 / 2 / 3 / 2 in the attack now. When we take a defensive position we have 4 in the back.
     
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  23. RSL Wonderbra

    RSL Wonderbra Member

    Jan 30, 2013
    Club:
    Real Salt Lake
    My point is, remove Diogo, shift Luna in to the CAM spot (where Diogo plays now), move Gozo up top where Luna currently floats, and promote another wing to play opposite Marczuk.

    Defensively, it is more of a 4 / 4 / 2 or a 4 / 2 / 4 however you want to look at it.

    I think you get a little more dangerous with that lineup. Plus Diogo can taste that Utah pine for once.
     
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  24. Allez RSL

    Allez RSL Member+

    Jun 20, 2007
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    I guess that was my question: who do you put opposite of Marczuk who can cover that wide left spot in defense? Could Brook cover that much ground?

    Maybe it would be least disruptive to just have Katranis in his regular spot and have Gozo line up on the wing, but drift into the wide forward position in attack.
     
  25. RSLer

    RSLer Member+

    Sep 24, 2008
    Stansbury Park, UT
    Club:
    Real Salt Lake
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    In these formation discussions how would Luna’s role of coming back deep to rescue our back line when they can’t beat the press be accounted for? Because he often does that. In every game so far this season.
     
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