MLS Flavors of the Week: 2020 Edition

Discussion in 'USA Men: News & Analysis' started by IndividualEleven, Feb 28, 2020.

  1. DHC1

    DHC1 Member+

    Jun 3, 2002
    NYC
    I’ll take vaguely interesting nowadays
     
  2. Pegasus

    Pegasus Member+

    Apr 20, 1999
    Club:
    FC Dallas
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    Thank goodness for the Bundesliga to actually have new games and new data to discuss.
     
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  3. DHC1

    DHC1 Member+

    Jun 3, 2002
    NYC
    they’d have to incur short/medium term losses to make this happen but I could see how they could think about it if they thought it would dramatically increase TV revenues, which are the driving force in sports.
     
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  4. DHC1

    DHC1 Member+

    Jun 3, 2002
    NYC
    Here's some basic numbers from this article: (https://www.cnbc.com/2020/02/27/maj...t-needs-to-secure-huge-media-deals-first.html)

    MLS
    TV deal: $90m*
    Player Salary: $200m
    Loss: $110m

    NFL
    TV deal: $7b
    Player Salary: $6.6b
    Profit before other items: $400m

    * which is after a sweetheart deal with USSF....
     
  5. Excellency

    Excellency Member+

    LA Galaxy
    United States
    Nov 4, 2011
    Club:
    Los Angeles Galaxy
    ESPN charges very little for their MLS subscription. I'd be more than understanding if they add some COVID19 surcharge and give it to the clubs to pay salaries. With more people staying at home, is it not expected that ESPN would get the eyeballs which usually go to games, along with some extra household members?
     
  6. DHC1

    DHC1 Member+

    Jun 3, 2002
    NYC
    except for the part where advertising aren’t paying anything for ads right now and their sister businesses are getting crushed (DisneyWorld, Land, etc.)
     
  7. jaykoz3

    jaykoz3 Member+

    Dec 25, 2010
    Conshohocken, PA
    Club:
    Philadelphia Union
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    Except for the fact that it's not a MLS Subscription. When you subscribe to ESPN+ you get all of ESPN+ (MLS, their other Soccer properties, Rugby, 30 for 30 etc.). Unlike NBC which charges a premium for each sport on NBC Gold.

    Also, those out of market streaming rights were already paid for by ESPN. The advertisements for the TV games were likely already sold prior to the season starting as well.
     
  8. glutton4Bolts

    glutton4Bolts Member+

    United States
    Mar 18, 2019
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    Live Soccer is now listing a difference between ESPN+ and MLS Live. I think that the difference might be that ESPN+ matches can be watched live and MLS Live on replay? I am really not sure. Earlier this season all the MLS games were saying ESPN+ and there was no MLS Live. When you read the fine print it says that MLS Live is broadcast on ESPN+ with certain caveats. It is all confusing. Anyone with more info? Season restarts this weekend according the Live Soccer:

    https://www.livesoccertv.com/schedules/2020-06-13/
     
  9. glutton4Bolts

    glutton4Bolts Member+

    United States
    Mar 18, 2019
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
  10. Excellency

    Excellency Member+

    LA Galaxy
    United States
    Nov 4, 2011
    Club:
    Los Angeles Galaxy
    Seltzer has his dream bracket with regional rivals in groups together.
    https://www.mlssoccer.com/post/2020/06/10/my-dream-mls-back-tournament-draw-greg-seltzer

    Eh..not for me. They say they will have a revised regular season MLS schedule for the period after the tournament at a later date, so they can adjust it to balance whatever happens in the tournament draw. I'd rather see regional rivalries in the regular season later when everybody is back in form and playing in familiar venues.
     
  11. Eleven Bravo

    Eleven Bravo Member+

    Atlanta United
    United States
    Jul 3, 2004
    SC
    Club:
    Atlanta Silverbacks
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    Thank God I need some soccer to talk about.
     
  12. Excellency

    Excellency Member+

    LA Galaxy
    United States
    Nov 4, 2011
    Club:
    Los Angeles Galaxy
    Feel like matchups in MLS tournament were unwise. Essentially we are getting the main course for an appetizer. The regional rivals are all paired in the group stage which means we will see far too many derby's because I imagine the regular schedule in the fall will involve "travel lite" matchups - i.o.w., more derby's.

    The only plus is that each region will be represented in ko rounds.
     
  13. gogorath

    gogorath Member+

    None
    United States
    May 12, 2019
    Matchups:

    [​IMG]
     
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  14. Eleven Bravo

    Eleven Bravo Member+

    Atlanta United
    United States
    Jul 3, 2004
    SC
    Club:
    Atlanta Silverbacks
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    I guess it was random selection... how come Group A has so many teams?
     
  15. truefan420

    truefan420 Member+

    May 30, 2010
    oakland
    Club:
    Chelsea FC
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    Maybe they wanted to keep even numbers in the groups
     
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  16. Patrick167

    Patrick167 Member+

    Dortmund
    United States
    May 4, 2017
    26 teams
     
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  17. Excellency

    Excellency Member+

    LA Galaxy
    United States
    Nov 4, 2011
    Club:
    Los Angeles Galaxy
    #342 Excellency, Jun 11, 2020
    Last edited: Jun 11, 2020
    Think "remainder" as in 26 divided by 4 = 6 remainder 2.
     
  18. Excellency

    Excellency Member+

    LA Galaxy
    United States
    Nov 4, 2011
    Club:
    Los Angeles Galaxy
    They stuck with geographical areas. But isn't that whom we will see in the regular season which begins after the tournament? They aren't going to charter jets to fly from Toronto to LAFC so why not have them meet in Orlando so I can get to see a good game? I'll see Toronto v Montreal in Orlando, then 2 times home/away for regular season then in Canadian championship (if it isn't cancelled) then a 5th time in playoffs, perhaps. I'm tired already just thinking about it. I"d rather see Toronto v Dallas or Sporting etc. I think the reason they did what they did was because everybody was pointing out that there could be uneven matchups in Orlando group stage which would determine conference standings outside of face to face meeting inside conference.
     
  19. glutton4Bolts

    glutton4Bolts Member+

    United States
    Mar 18, 2019
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    It was supposed to be random outside of a pre-agreed matchup between Orlando and Miami... but I question whether it was truly above board. In the end, I don't really care if some rivalries were added outside the random to make the tourney more interesting. I just want to watch. I am completely starved for Soccer. The Bundesliga is coming to a close and there are not that many USMNT players/prospects internationally outside of that league.... so the MLS has quickly become a must watch for me... especially since it seems like the quality has really increased over the last couple of years. Players I am geeked to see back in action... I am sure I am missing someone but the list is getting pretty long/intriguing:

    Duncan - RB Red Bulls
    Sands - CD/CDM NYCFC
    Cannon - RB FC Dallas
    Pomykal - M FC Dallas
    Tessmann - CDM FC Dallas
    Servania - M FC Dallas
    Ferreira - F FC Dallas
    Pepi - F FC Dallas
    McKenzie - CD Philly
    Aaronson - M Philly
    Bassett - M Colorado
    Araujo - RB Galaxy (although his manager never plays him :-( )
    Hyndman - M Atlanta
    Lennon - M Atlanta
    Mihailovic - F Chicago
    Blackmon - RB LAFC
    Busio - M KC
     
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  20. Excellency

    Excellency Member+

    LA Galaxy
    United States
    Nov 4, 2011
    Club:
    Los Angeles Galaxy
    On your list I'm interested in Sands, Aaronson and Pomykal.
    My sense is that Duncan is a talent but man do we have rb's galore.
    It will be interesting to see how far Robbie Robinson will go and if Pepi can do some damage.
    I'd add Miles Robinson to your list.
    It would be interesting to see Busio in Europe. He kinda doubled for Reyna with the u17's.
     
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  21. DHC1

    DHC1 Member+

    Jun 3, 2002
    NYC
    do we know when FCD’s first game against an elite DP is?
     
  22. IndividualEleven

    Mar 16, 2006
    #347 IndividualEleven, Jun 12, 2020
    Last edited: Jun 12, 2020
    SJ: Thompson(CM, hopefully) and Yuiell(CM)
    LAG: Araujo(RB), Acosta(LB)
    Portland: Farfan(LB) Ebobissie(FW/WM)
    COL:: Vines(LB), Lewis(FW,WAM) Trusty(CB)
    FCD: CM/AM: Pomykal, Tessman, Servania, Cerillo
    FCD: FW: Ferreira, Pepi
    FCD: RB: Cannon
    FCD: LB: Hollingshead
    CLB: FW: Zardes
    NYC: CM: Parks, Sands
    NYRB: RB/LB: Duncan
    DC: WM/AM: Gressel
    ATL: CB:Robinson, AM: Hyndman
    MIN: FW: Toye, CM: Dotson
    CIN: CM: Amaya
    Nashville: CB: Zimmerman, FW: Vazquez
    MIA: CM: Trapp FW: Robinson
    ORL: WM/FW: Mueller
    RSL: GK: Ochoa
    CHI: CB/CM: Pineda, LM: Mihailovic
    SEA: FW/WM: Morris, CM: Roldan
    SKC: RW: Shelton AM: Busio
    PHI: AM: Aaronson, CB: McKenzie
    TOR: AM: Delgado
     
  23. glutton4Bolts

    glutton4Bolts Member+

    United States
    Mar 18, 2019
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    Fantastic List Indy11! Thanks for that. I need to bookmark it.... done :)
     
  24. gunnerfan7

    gunnerfan7 Member+

    San Jose Earthquakes
    United States
    Jul 22, 2012
    Santa Cruz, California
    Club:
    Arsenal FC
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    For SJ don't forget Cade Cowell. He didn't look out of place this year, although the team didn't do very well.
     
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  25. Patrick167

    Patrick167 Member+

    Dortmund
    United States
    May 4, 2017
    I'd add Blackmon and get rid of everyone over 25...
     

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