MLS Cup vs SS on following conditon...

Discussion in 'MLS: General' started by DCU1996, Jan 30, 2008.

  1. DCU1996

    DCU1996 Member

    Jun 3, 2002
    N. VA
    Club:
    DC United
    Nat'l Team:
    Korea Republic
    Assuming both MLS Cup winner and SS winner get berth to CCL,

    If MLS regular season top 4 performers get berth to SuperLiga,

    If SuperLiga winner gets berth to Copa Libertadores,

    If you have to choose one between;

    1. your team finish 5th in MLS regular season and win MLS Cup

    or

    2 your team win SS

    What would you choose?
     
  2. WarrenWallace

    WarrenWallace Member

    Mar 12, 1999
    Beer and Cheese
    For me, simple. Finish 5th and win MLS Cup. To me, there are two competitions each year. Try to win MLS Cup and then try to win US Open Cup. Anything else in my opinion is worthless. I don't care about international competition and won't watch any of them unless it is the World Cup. For for that it either has to have the USA playing or a match up between two elite teams.
     
  3. SixKick

    SixKick Moderator
    Staff Member

    Nov 13, 2000
    Club:
    Club América
    Nat'l Team:
    Mexico
    Not even close.


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  4. narko

    narko New Member

    Jul 16, 2007
    North Carolina
    Club:
    DC United
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    There has to be a better way to determine who from MLS would get into Copa Libertadores (one day... eventually... maybe) than Superliga.
     
  5. MarkRFC_

    MarkRFC_ New Member

    Oct 21, 2007
    Reading, England
    Winning the play-offs shows a team is good at knock-out formats after a long season, so should be the Libertadores entrant
     
  6. DCU1996

    DCU1996 Member

    Jun 3, 2002
    N. VA
    Club:
    DC United
    Nat'l Team:
    Korea Republic
    There are two scenarios - either CONMEBOL give US a couple of straight tickets or somehow MLS and FMF have to compete for 3-5 CL spots.

    If CONMEBOL give US straight tickets then MLS can decide however it wants.

    If MLS and FMF have to compete, I guess SuperLiga is good solution and it'll make SuperLiga really big deal which SUM and FMF try to make of. Currently, FMF gets 3 straight tickets. It may start by FMF give up 1 ticket to SuperLiga winner. Then, later maybe ask for a couple more tickests and combine SuperLiga and FMF's InterLiga to decide whole 4-5 tickets.
     
  7. SxSxWxC

    SxSxWxC Member

    Mar 16, 2007
    Wyandotte Crossing

    I'd give up both our SS and US Open Cup for one of those.
     
  8. Buzz Killington

    Buzz Killington Member+

    Oct 6, 2002
    Lee's Summit
    Club:
    Kansas City Wizards
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    agree.
     
  9. krudmonk

    krudmonk Member+

    Mar 7, 2007
    S.J. Sonora
    Club:
    San Jose Earthquakes
    Supporters Shield > US Open Cup
     
  10. Foousic

    Foousic New Member

    Dec 23, 2002
    Washington/Richmond
    Club:
    DC United
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    This makes you're opinion on the matter completely worthless. Just being honest...
     
  11. NYFC

    NYFC Member

    Jul 30, 2006
    Brooklyn
    I would take the Supporters Shield over the MLS Cup any day. It's a shame the league does not hold it in the same regard as the Cup. Their should be a much bigger deal made about the Supporters Shield along with a trophy presentation, t-shirts for sale etc.

    Don't tell me you wouldn't be shelling out dough for a Supporters Shield Champion of the League T-Shirt.
     
  12. ritsoccer86

    ritsoccer86 Member

    Jul 18, 2005
    As a DC fan, I'd have to say SS AND MLS Cup. I just think that our team puts their goals a lot higher than most teams. Tradition is their motto.
     
  13. ItsCalledSoccer

    ItsCalledSoccer New Member

    Jan 23, 2007
    The Shield is a consolation prize. "Congrats, you won the first round!" It's at the bottom of the list of things I want the Rapids to win (someday...). The only reason I'd be happy that they won the Shield is that they would have a shot at winning the Champions League and SuperLiga the next year.

    Actually, I think the CL and SL spots ought to go to the four Conference Finalists, because they are the four teams who came the closest to becoming league champions, but oh, well. This works to.

    The Supporters Shield winner isn't the champion of the league. Officially and Unofficially.
     
  14. NebraskaAddick

    Aug 26, 2005
    Omaha, NE
    Club:
    New York Red Bulls
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    Whatever gets me into Copa Libertadores is my pick. Winning that trumps any MLS Cup, because it is more prestigious by a country mile.

    I understand we'd probably get killed at this time, but any professional soccer club worth their salt should strive to play against the best competition they can to test their limits, or they should get off the field.

    A small-conference basketball team doesn't turn down an NCAA Tournament berth.
     
  15. NebraskaAddick

    Aug 26, 2005
    Omaha, NE
    Club:
    New York Red Bulls
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    I concur with that, because I look at which is the harder one to win? Get hot for a couple weeks in November, or stay hot long enough from April to October?
     
  16. mchughes

    mchughes New Member

    Feb 19, 2007
    Provo, Utah
    Club:
    Real Salt Lake
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    what it is
    mls cup>SS>superliga, CCC>us open cup

    what it should be
    ss>CCL>superliga>us open cup
     
  17. MNGalaxy

    MNGalaxy Member

    Jul 25, 2006
    Minneapolis
    Club:
    Los Angeles Galaxy
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    MLS Cup by far
     
  18. MLS3

    MLS3 Member

    Feb 7, 2000
    Pac NW
    Club:
    Seattle Sounders
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    who are the people voting for the SS???

    winning the SS basically means you were the champion of the exhibition season...the real season begins in the MLS Cup playoffs meaning the MLS Cup is the REAL champion...

    I understand people want us to be like europe and not even have a MLS Cup, the league champion just being whoever finishes atop the standings (err, table)...but this is AMERICA, we have champioship games. The SS would mean more to me and in the league if each team played every other league team home and away, but with an unbalanced schedule it makes no sense to try and claim the SS is most important or that the league champions are the SS winners, idiotic really...

    what it is, MLS Cup>CCC>Superliga>SS>USOC

    what is should be, MLS Cup>WCC>CCL>USOC>SS
     
  19. Sanguine

    Sanguine Member

    Jul 4, 2003
    Reston, VA
    MLS Cup is always the top priority every year as far as I'm concerned. As a DC fan, winning two consecutive Supporter's Shields is a completely empty achievement. Sure it's a nice consolation prize, but that's all it really is. The only time the SS really matters is if you win it and the MLS Cup in the same year - then you can say you truly dominated the league.
     
  20. WarrenWallace

    WarrenWallace Member

    Mar 12, 1999
    Beer and Cheese
    It is nice to know that my opinion, that MLS Cup is by far the most important thing to win, is worthless. Thanks for telling me that.
     
  21. mchughes

    mchughes New Member

    Feb 19, 2007
    Provo, Utah
    Club:
    Real Salt Lake
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    if the reason we should not have the european format is that we are american, then why have a soccer league at all? were american dammit

    if the MLS cup is the most important thing and the only reason to play the season is to get to the playoffs and if 8 of 14 teams get to the playoffs it makes the season useless. Making the Supporters shield the most important thing makes the games have purpose. every game counts.

    Simply absorb the MLS cup into the USOC or something like that. That way there is still a knockout tournament for a team to claim.
     
  22. SixKick

    SixKick Moderator
    Staff Member

    Nov 13, 2000
    Club:
    Club América
    Nat'l Team:
    Mexico
    No it doesn't. It makes the regular season important for getting you into the playoffs and seeding.
     
  23. Buzz Killington

    Buzz Killington Member+

    Oct 6, 2002
    Lee's Summit
    Club:
    Kansas City Wizards
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    No it doesn't. By late in the season, the teams that would be fighting for the 7th or 8th playoff spot would instead be fighting for absolutely nothing, making the games late in the season have no purpose.
     
  24. DCU1996

    DCU1996 Member

    Jun 3, 2002
    N. VA
    Club:
    DC United
    Nat'l Team:
    Korea Republic
    hence we make both equally important.

    best of both worlds!!!

    after all both get berth to CCC.
     
  25. Count

    Count New Member

    Oct 7, 2007
    Chapel Hill
    Club:
    DC United
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    It's not as if a regular season champion is unheard of in american sports. In college Bball, the team with the best conference record at the end of the season is the ACC Champion. The winner of the ACC tourny is the ACC tournament champion.

    Two different things, stop acting like it's impossible.

    Unless you're telling me that ACC basketball isn't american enough.
     

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