MLS Cup & Third Place Game

Discussion in 'MLS: General' started by bunge, Nov 7, 2008.

  1. bunge

    bunge BigSoccer Supporter

    Oct 24, 2000
    It's that time of year again when the supporter in me wishes there were a third place game in MLS. Right now, the Fire are one of the top four teams in MLS. If there were a third place match at the same date and location as MLS Cup, Fire fans could already be booking flights and preparing for game day.

    With as many new tournaments as we have, couldn't a third place match become more important? Wouldn't a double header be more fun for the random MLS fans that show up simply because they enjoy the league? And obviously, wouldn't it help supporters make arrangements?
     
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  2. El Naranja

    El Naranja Member+

    Sep 5, 2006
    Alief
    Club:
    Houston Dynamo
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    No.

    "Americans will never tolerate a loser. I wouldn't given a hooten hell about a man who lost, and laughed."
     
  3. Master O

    Master O Member+

    Jul 7, 2006
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    This is America. The only place that matters is first place. Second and third do not exist.
     
  4. nobius

    nobius BigSoccer Supporter

    Jan 3, 2006
    Houston, Texas
    Club:
    Houston Dynamo
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    That's a pretty interesting idea since it helps people make travel arrangements earlier. It could work if they tied winning 3rd to something like CCL or Superliga.
     
  5. bunge

    bunge BigSoccer Supporter

    Oct 24, 2000
    This is exactly my thought. It would help 'supporters', but also sideline sitters who are interested in the final. To be able to see their team play would just be a bonus.
     
  6. Fanaddict

    Fanaddict Member+

    Mar 9, 2000
    streamwood IL USA
    Club:
    Chicago Fire
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    I agree that it would have to lead to being in a tournament if you won third place. Even in the WC no one really cares about third place.
     
  7. henryo

    henryo Member+

    Jun 26, 2007
  8. Justin O

    Justin O Member+

    Seattle Sounders
    United States
    Nov 30, 1998
    on the run from the covid
    Club:
    Seattle
    Qualification for other tournaments - so that teams would try to lose the third place game?
     
  9. DC Fan in Chatt

    DC Fan in Chatt New Member

    Jul 10, 2007
    Chattanooga, TN
    Club:
    DC United
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    terrible idea, sorry
     
  10. bunge

    bunge BigSoccer Supporter

    Oct 24, 2000
    Terrible explanation. Sorry.
     
  11. DCUdiplomat96

    DCUdiplomat96 Member

    Mar 19, 2005
    Atlanta, GA
    Club:
    DC United
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    the MLS Cup is not a "cup" tournement. its a playoffs for the league championship.
     
  12. bunge

    bunge BigSoccer Supporter

    Oct 24, 2000
    I wasn't suggesting that it is. I'm suggesting that a third place game that has some value, would make life easier for supporters and fans to support their team at MLS Cup.

    I would have bought my ticket to LA last week if I had known the Fire were playing in LA at MLS Cup. Instead, I'm waiting. If more people travel to see their team, more people will learn to appreciate MLS Cup as an event. Having more supporters at the event will help make it more of an event.

    I was at one MLS Cup that the Fire weren't in and it was still a good time.
     
  13. El Naranja

    El Naranja Member+

    Sep 5, 2006
    Alief
    Club:
    Houston Dynamo
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    Well, the point of MLS Cup is to have only 2 teams play. I don't think you'd get much TV time (which is really key) or attendance for the 3rd place game. That said, the supporters have been great for the past two years (if I may say so :) ) despite long distance travel on short notice. Even before that MLS Cup has been a great place and traveling support was always good. IIRC in 2006 and 2007, every club was represented and I don't anticipate that changing anytime soon.

    Some go only for their team...the majority show up for the event. It's not dissimilar from the All-Star game. This is a celebration of MLS and the _____ season. It's also a great chance for the SGs to meet, hand off the SS and to talk with the various suits about SG problems, concerns and desires and to hang out with other soccer fanatics from across the country.

    Then go to this one regardless. A good time will be had, regardless of who is playing. Celebrate the league you support.
     
  14. obie

    obie New Member

    Nov 18, 1998
    NY, NY
    Club:
    New York Red Bulls
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    It's a pointless exercise for both the players and the fans. The only reason why the WC keeps its third-place match is because it makes money.
     
  15. bunge

    bunge BigSoccer Supporter

    Oct 24, 2000
    I do, a third place game just seems like a way to make it easier for people to do. I would love to go to MLS Cup this year as I DO celebrate the league. I can only afford to go if the Fire go though. There's a cost of time and money to every trip and it's not realistic to think everyone can always make it.

    One day MLS Cup will (hopefully) be as tough a ticket to get as any other pro final in this country. Until then, I think the league should keep doing things to make it that popular and half time shows aren't going to do it. Soccer, on the other hand, is going to do it.
     
  16. number 22

    number 22 New Member

    Oct 22, 2003
    South Side, Chicago
    Club:
    Chicago Fire
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    you have 8 playoff spots to determine a champion along. win you move on. i never liked the idea of 3rd place games in anything other than an ultimate singular championship like world cup, world basketball championships, olympic tourneys, etc.

    doesn't seem necessary on a league level. lose and go home. winning earns you the right to take the trip to that championship city and if you are lucky, you are that city and it's a home game.
     
  17. CrewBeat

    CrewBeat Be Massive My Friends

    Jul 27, 2004
    Manhattan
    Club:
    Columbus Crew
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    If you're going to change the cup final then get rid of the neutral venue, let the team with the highest points host it. Gives more value to the regular season.
     
  18. DCUdiplomat96

    DCUdiplomat96 Member

    Mar 19, 2005
    Atlanta, GA
    Club:
    DC United
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    lets see if the Columbus crew are really worth being called Champion if they can win the MLS Cup
     
  19. DCUdiplomat96

    DCUdiplomat96 Member

    Mar 19, 2005
    Atlanta, GA
    Club:
    DC United
    Nat'l Team:
    United States

    DCU hasnt learned that last season the players like frackin Benny Olsen was still drunk off the SS Kool aid lol
     
  20. henryo

    henryo Member+

    Jun 26, 2007
    For the record, Chicago has finished 3rd in 2008 MLS Cup Playoffs, base on their more superior G/D versus RSL:

    Yr: 3rd-place-- W-L-T GS-GA 4th-place-- W-L-T GS-GA
    08: Chicago---- 1-1-1, 4-2 (Salt Lake-- 1-1-1, 3-3)

    Note that:
    1) Chicago have now finished 3rd in 3 of the past 4 seasons (05, 07 & 08).
    2) Chicago are now tied with Columbus for the most number of 3rd-place finishes (3 each).
    3) It's a pity that they'd narrowly missed out on CCL '09/10, having also finished 3rd in 2008 Regular Season.
     
  21. henryo

    henryo Member+

    Jun 26, 2007
    Just an update: Seattle Sounders now have the scant consolation of finishing 3rd in MLS Playoffs 2012, ahead of D.C. United, with reference to the "playoffs standings" (thru. Nov-18) as below: :p

     

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