MLS Considering Split Season, Playoff Changes

Discussion in 'MLS: News & Analysis' started by Th4119, Sep 22, 2002.

  1. Th4119

    Th4119 Member+

    Jul 26, 2001
    Annandale, VA
    Don't know if this has been posted here yet, sorry I only checked quickly and hadn't seen anything.

    http://sports.yahoo.com/mls/news/20020921/mlschanges.html

    This article is saying that MLS is considering to moving to 2 20 game seasons per year a la Mexico, and also altering a confusing playing system.

    Discuss.
     
  2. Th4119

    Th4119 Member+

    Jul 26, 2001
    Annandale, VA
    A single table would also be used in replacement of the Eastern and Western Conferences.
     
  3. lond2345

    lond2345 Member

    Aug 19, 2002
    USA
    i hope they do this after expansion, it would be awful to have so many games with only 10 teams
     
  4. Mayo

    Mayo Member

    Jul 21, 2000
    Chicago
    I for one think the scheduling change would be a disaster on several fronts.
    1) Taking off June & July would mean no July 4 games. The 7/4 matches make up 8% of total MLS attendence each year. Far and away, the biggest matchday of the season.
    2) If the first half had to be complete by June 1, Games in Chicago, Columbus, New England and NJ would need to be played during early March. No one would show up!
    3) Increasing the # games per year to 40 would push a much larger percentage of those games to weeknights. This would seriously hurt attendence.

    This is a terrible idea.
     
  5. Juan Luis Guerra

    Juan Luis Guerra Red Card

    Jun 11, 2001
    New York City
    I agree with that format. It's a long wait till March, almost April
     
  6. Chowderhead

    Chowderhead Member

    Aug 3, 1999
    Central Falls, RI
    I'm for a single table and a simplified play off format, but split seasons, especially those that award separate trophies, would be stupid. Seasons are always a quest. To split them up would be to disrupt the journey. To reward a trophy for each "season" would be to render them both meaningless.
     
  7. Chowderhead

    Chowderhead Member

    Aug 3, 1999
    Central Falls, RI
    And do we really want to emulate the "organization" of Mexico, Colombia and Argentina?

    I shudder.
     
  8. Brownswan

    Brownswan New Member

    Jun 30, 1999
    Port St. Lucie, FL
    Frankly, I like the idea of a split season. I have advocated it a number of times on these boards, mainly to escape the heat of July and August.

    I think the Spring Championship should conclude on July 4th, and the Autumn campaigne begin on Labor Day weekend. I don't care if we go against football in the fall; we already do. Another 3 or 4 weeks won't matter.

    The proposed schedule is based on competitions that now conflict with the MLS schedule, so It's seems that the "season" would still be more-or-less continuous through the summer, with a lighter schedule of non-MLS matches during the break.

    1. We need bigger rosters to manage even the current schedule.

    2. We still need to beat the August heat. many days this summer were just too hot for good health and good soccer.
     
  9. monster

    monster Member

    Oct 19, 1999
    Hanover, PA
    Club:
    DC United
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    Consider the source and look closely at the language.
     
  10. The Truth Commission

    Mar 29, 2000
    Parts Unknown
    Yes it has, on the MLS board.
     
  11. Th4119

    Th4119 Member+

    Jul 26, 2001
    Annandale, VA
    My fault Truth, hadn't seen that you had started a similar thread.
     
  12. tcmahoney

    tcmahoney New Member

    Feb 14, 1999
    Metronatural
    Excellent point.
     
  13. JMU Soccer!

    JMU Soccer! New Member

    Jul 19, 1999
    Oh c'mon people!!! Jamie Trecker has a long track record of competent writing!!!!!
     
  14. Rocket

    Rocket Member

    Aug 29, 1999
    Chicago
    Club:
    Everton FC
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    What do you mean by "consider the source"?
     
  15. tcmahoney

    tcmahoney New Member

    Feb 14, 1999
    Metronatural
    Agreed, for all the reasons you cited. And throw in Chowderhead's comment as well, too.
     
  16. Knave

    Knave Member+

    May 25, 1999
    He means that Jamie Trecker has little credibility.
     
  17. Rocket

    Rocket Member

    Aug 29, 1999
    Chicago
    Club:
    Everton FC
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    I agree.

    But Trecker quoted MLS communications director Trey Fitz-Gerald as stating, "The playoff change is more definite, I think," he said. "For the season, that may be a little more long-term. Right now we are looking at the calendar."

    And again, Fitz-Gerald is quoted re switching to single table, "However, that's something, again, we're still talking about," Fitz-Gerald said. "There may be some payoff in having those in terms of travel and perhaps in rewarding two teams."

    Although a lot of what Jamie Trecker writes needs to be taken with a pound of salt, I seriously doubt he's making up quotes from named sources.
     
  18. Knave

    Knave Member+

    May 25, 1999
    So Trey is talking about things. So what? I'm they talk about lots of crazy ideas. Whether any of them come to fruition ... well, that's another thing entirely.
     
  19. Old Man!

    Old Man! BigSoccer Supporter

    Chicago Fire SC
    Mar 11, 2000
    I'm not sure if I like the idea of awarding separate trophies for each season, but why not just have a mid summer break? It wouldn't be set in stone each year, but depending on what was occuring, i.e. World Cup, Confederations Cup etc., maybe we have June off one year, and then July off the next, depending on what other competitoins were occuring. We should not get rid of 4th of July games though.

    Also, as was stated already, this should only really happen after expansion. 40 game season contested b/t 10 teams? ugh.
     
  20. Rocket

    Rocket Member

    Aug 29, 1999
    Chicago
    Club:
    Everton FC
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    So what? So it's news, that's what.

    Not earth-shattering news by any means, but the type of stuff you'll see mentioned in MLS Confidential or in a Jeff Bradley column.

    Just because it's Jamie Trecker and not Bradley or Ridge Mahoney writing the story doesn't make it any less newsworthy.
     
  21. lond2345

    lond2345 Member

    Aug 19, 2002
    USA
    "And do we really want to emulate the "organization" of Mexico, Colombia and Argentina?

    I shudder."

    mexico is the most financially wealthy league in the americas, plus it is the third best league in the americas. (behind argentina and brazil)
     
  22. monster

    monster Member

    Oct 19, 1999
    Hanover, PA
    Club:
    DC United
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    My point was that these things might b considered but they aren't set in stone or imminent. They talked about contraction for a whole year and admitted that they had discussed it along with tons of other scenarios like they do every winter.

    It's kind of significant that Trey talked about this stuff. Now all we have to do is compare his quotes with those from Mr. Rumor to see what the real scoop is. ;)
     
  23. G Enriquez

    G Enriquez Member+

    Apr 1, 2002
    Tampa
    Club:
    FC Tampa Bay Rowdies
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    I personally don't like the idea of having two seperate seasons, I think it cheapens the league. I believe that having one final at the end of the season builds excitment and drama. I like the format that MLS currently uses of 28 games plus Open Cup matches.
     
  24. TWR

    TWR New Member

    Jan 18, 2000
    New York
    July and August is when I pay attention to MLS the most. No Basketball, No NFL, No College Football, just boring old baseball. I want the MLS playing games when there is the least competition.
     
  25. Stan Collins

    Stan Collins Member+

    Feb 26, 1999
    Silver Spring, MD
    Exactly.

    Notice Trecker didn't give detail one about the playoff change, even though it was the more likely change. What does "simplify the playoffs" mean? We don't know, because Trecker didn't bother to tell us (other than Trecker implying that it might mean no playoffs at all, which if you look carefully can't be true given Fitzgerald's comments about single table). Instead, we got whole lot of talk about the proposed changes that are clearly in the early, exploratory stages.

    No, he's just writing a whole lot more than is there. MLS probably talks about a whole lot of things that don't end up even close to happening. And a 40-game split-season strikes me as something that if MLS ever did it, they'd spend a whole lot of time thinking and talking about first. It's too radical a change not to.
     

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