MLS Coaching and Front Office - News & Discussion Thread 2019

Discussion in 'MLS: News & Analysis' started by xbhaskarx, Jan 4, 2019.

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The next MLS coach to get fired will be...

Poll closed Jul 4, 2019.
  1. Adrian Heath

    23 vote(s)
    29.1%
  2. Alan Koch

    0 vote(s)
    0.0%
  3. Anthony Hudson

    9 vote(s)
    11.4%
  4. Ben Olsen

    3 vote(s)
    3.8%
  5. Brad Friedel

    8 vote(s)
    10.1%
  6. Brian Schmetzer

    0 vote(s)
    0.0%
  7. Domenec Torrent

    11 vote(s)
    13.9%
  8. Frank de Boer

    10 vote(s)
    12.7%
  9. Giovanni Savarese

    0 vote(s)
    0.0%
  10. Greg Vanney

    1 vote(s)
    1.3%
  11. Guillermo Barros Schelotto

    0 vote(s)
    0.0%
  12. James O'Connor

    6 vote(s)
    7.6%
  13. Jim Curtin

    7 vote(s)
    8.9%
  14. Luchi Gonzalez

    0 vote(s)
    0.0%
  15. Marc Dos Santos

    0 vote(s)
    0.0%
  16. Matias Almeyda

    2 vote(s)
    2.5%
  17. Mike Petke

    1 vote(s)
    1.3%
  18. Remi Garde

    2 vote(s)
    2.5%
  19. Veljko Paunovic

    9 vote(s)
    11.4%
  20. Wilmer Cabrera

    1 vote(s)
    1.3%
Multiple votes are allowed.
  1. TheRealBilbo

    TheRealBilbo Member+

    Apr 5, 2016
    They've been shopping him around with no takers and he hasn't been part of the plan for a while. He's $150k on cap, plus $450k xAM. Hopefully they can cut ties with him soon because of this.
     
  2. TheRealBilbo

    TheRealBilbo Member+

    Apr 5, 2016
  3. Dirt McGirt

    Dirt McGirt Member+

    Jun 20, 2005
    Phoenix, AZ
    Club:
    Seattle Sounders
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
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  4. don gagliardi

    don gagliardi Member+

    San Jose Earthquakes
    Feb 28, 2004
    san jose
    Club:
    San Jose Earthquakes
    Was the Cincinnati coach proven guilty of something? If so, what?
     
  5. AndyMead

    AndyMead Homo Sapien

    Nov 2, 1999
    Seat 12A
    Club:
    Sporting Kansas City
    Apple meet Orange.
     
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  6. Q*bert Jones III

    Q*bert Jones III The People's Poet

    Feb 12, 2005
    Woodstock, NY
    Club:
    DC United
    Have you ever had a job?
     
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  7. JasonMa

    JasonMa Member+

    Mar 20, 2000
    Arvada, CO
    Club:
    Colorado Rapids
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    Was the Cincinnati coach accused of a crime?
     
  8. don gagliardi

    don gagliardi Member+

    San Jose Earthquakes
    Feb 28, 2004
    san jose
    Club:
    San Jose Earthquakes
    That's my point. The accused felon is still on the team. The accused blasphemer is not. Neither accusation has yet been substantiated.
     
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  9. Dirt McGirt

    Dirt McGirt Member+

    Jun 20, 2005
    Phoenix, AZ
    Club:
    Seattle Sounders
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    That's not the same thing. Ron resigned ahead of any team investigation. If he didn't do anything why quit?
     
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  10. JasonMa

    JasonMa Member+

    Mar 20, 2000
    Arvada, CO
    Club:
    Colorado Rapids
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    In public. But we know the team opened an investigation into what the coach said. Do we know what, if any, actions the team has taken into what the player may have done?

    This is apples and oranges you're trying to combine into a fruit salad.
     
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  11. AndyMead

    AndyMead Homo Sapien

    Nov 2, 1999
    Seat 12A
    Club:
    Sporting Kansas City
    Why would a Wookiee, an eight-foot tall Wookiee, want to live on Endor, with a bunch of two-foot tall Ewoks? That does not make sense! But more important, you have to ask yourself: What does this have to do with this case? Nothing. Ladies and gentlemen, it has nothing to do with this case! It does not make sense! Look at me. I'm a lawyer defending a major record company, and I'm talkin' about Chewbacca! Does that make sense? Ladies and gentlemen, I am not making any sense! None of this makes sense! And so you have to remember, when you're in that jury room deliberatin' and conjugatin' the Emancipation Proclamation, does it make sense? No! Ladies and gentlemen of this supposed jury, it does not make sense! If Chewbacca lives on Endor, you must acquit! The defense rests.
     
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  12. Bill Archer

    Bill Archer BigSoccer Supporter

    Mar 19, 2002
    Washington, NC
    Club:
    Columbus Crew
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    Whoa, whoa there, Kimo.

    The man is a first time offender, a non-violent first time offender, who stupidly let his insurance lapse, got in a wreck and tried to get away with claiming a different time frame for the accident. Since insurance companies didn't get rich by being stupid, he didn't get away with it.

    And just for the record, $50,000 bond is ridiculous for a non-violent, first offender, non-flight risk, even if they let him post 10%.

    Either way, I don't see how that's a fireable offense for an employee. Kid screwed up, but lose his livelihood? It's a private matter.
     
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  13. Yoshou

    Yoshou Fan of the CCL Champ

    May 12, 2009
    Seattle
    Club:
    Seattle Sounders
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    Maybe read the article? He may be on the roster, but he is no longer with the team.

     
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  14. don gagliardi

    don gagliardi Member+

    San Jose Earthquakes
    Feb 28, 2004
    san jose
    Club:
    San Jose Earthquakes
    The ESPN article I read, when I read it, said the team had no comment. So, perhaps the article was updated since.
     
  15. FoxBoro 143

    FoxBoro 143 Member+

    Jan 18, 2004
    MA
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    The coach was accused of misconduct while performing team duties and in the presence of players. The player is accused of misconduct unrelated to his team duties.
     
  16. TheRealBilbo

    TheRealBilbo Member+

    Apr 5, 2016
    An arraignment for two felony charges scheduled for Feb 27 is not a good sign.

    I don't get letting your auto insurance lapse then buying a new policy couple of hours after totalling your $50k Beemer. Then you file a claim for the accident swapping times.

    My auto insurance is set for auto pay. That's a risk I don't want to take, and I make a fraction of what Mattocks does. Heck car insurance is less than $200/month max for a low deductible, high liability limit policy with all the bells and whistles that car. My recollection is whenever I made a change to the policy, it took affect at midnight, so essentially the next day.

    Sorry, no sympathy for pure stupidity.
     
  17. ToMhIlL

    ToMhIlL Member+

    Feb 18, 1999
    Boxborough, MA
    Club:
    New England Revolution
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    Young professional ath-uh-leet's who make way more money (even in MLS) than most guys their age are not exactly known for their level-headed pragmatism when it comes to mundane things like insurance.
     
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  18. KCbus

    KCbus Moderator
    Staff Member

    United States
    Nov 26, 2000
    Reynoldsburg, OH
    Club:
    Columbus Crew
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    I don’t buy this for a second. Any 16-year-old driving a $600 clunker knows it’s against the law to drive without insurance. You’re gonna tell me a professional athlete doesn’t know any better?

    He tried to pull a fast one and got burned. No sympathy.
     
  19. ToMhIlL

    ToMhIlL Member+

    Feb 18, 1999
    Boxborough, MA
    Club:
    New England Revolution
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    That's the point, these guys as a whole are generally pretty stupid. Sure, he should know better, but the guy tried to get away with something and got caught. End of story
     
  20. Honore de Ballsac

    Oct 28, 2005
    France.
    "We separate right from wrong, fact from fiction, delicates from permanent press! I recall a man who said, 'With great power comes great responsibility.' That man was Spider-Man's uncle. And now... he's dead!
     
  21. Honore de Ballsac

    Oct 28, 2005
    France.
    Does this mean I can still place my bet on Ron Jans as the first coach to get fired in 2020?
     
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  22. JasonMa

    JasonMa Member+

    Mar 20, 2000
    Arvada, CO
    Club:
    Colorado Rapids
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    If you want to lose your money, yeah.

    (Jans resigned, he wasn't fired ;) )
     
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  23. Honore de Ballsac

    Oct 28, 2005
    France.
    Guess me and Darron have to keep up on the details.
     
  24. POdinCowtown

    POdinCowtown Member+

    Jan 15, 2002
    Columbus
    An insurance company is going to be skeptical if you claim to have suffered a total loss on the same day you buy the policy.
     
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  25. TheRealBilbo

    TheRealBilbo Member+

    Apr 5, 2016
    No doubt that Mattocks deserves a second chance, and I wish him well in the future. But, he does have to earn that chance by making the situation right, being contrite, and penetant.

    Assuming that the charge is accurate, and he did not have insurance at the time if the accident, he needs to return any funds received to the insurance company. At that point, the judge can evaluate whether he has made amends, and dispose of the case appropriately. Withholding adjudication and ultimately dropping the charge would be fine, assuming he doesn't try the same thing in the future.

    If the insurance company made an error, then they need to make him whole.
     

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