MLS Coaching and Front Office - News & Discussion Thread 2019

Discussion in 'MLS: News & Analysis' started by xbhaskarx, Jan 4, 2019.

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The next MLS coach to get fired will be...

Poll closed Jul 4, 2019.
  1. Adrian Heath

    23 vote(s)
    29.1%
  2. Alan Koch

    0 vote(s)
    0.0%
  3. Anthony Hudson

    9 vote(s)
    11.4%
  4. Ben Olsen

    3 vote(s)
    3.8%
  5. Brad Friedel

    8 vote(s)
    10.1%
  6. Brian Schmetzer

    0 vote(s)
    0.0%
  7. Domenec Torrent

    11 vote(s)
    13.9%
  8. Frank de Boer

    10 vote(s)
    12.7%
  9. Giovanni Savarese

    0 vote(s)
    0.0%
  10. Greg Vanney

    1 vote(s)
    1.3%
  11. Guillermo Barros Schelotto

    0 vote(s)
    0.0%
  12. James O'Connor

    6 vote(s)
    7.6%
  13. Jim Curtin

    7 vote(s)
    8.9%
  14. Luchi Gonzalez

    0 vote(s)
    0.0%
  15. Marc Dos Santos

    0 vote(s)
    0.0%
  16. Matias Almeyda

    2 vote(s)
    2.5%
  17. Mike Petke

    1 vote(s)
    1.3%
  18. Remi Garde

    2 vote(s)
    2.5%
  19. Veljko Paunovic

    9 vote(s)
    11.4%
  20. Wilmer Cabrera

    1 vote(s)
    1.3%
Multiple votes are allowed.
  1. xbhaskarx

    xbhaskarx Member+

    San Jose Earthquakes
    United States
    Feb 13, 2010
    NorCal
    Club:
    San Jose Earthquakes
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    #1 xbhaskarx, Jan 4, 2019
    Last edited: Jan 4, 2019
    Previous threads:
    MLS coaches (current and potential) and coaching thread
    MLS Team Front Office Discussion Thread


    It's probably best to keep these combined, given the "Front Office Discussion Thread" was buried under the endless barrage of daily news threads, all the way on page 11...

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    In 2019 MLS will have 10 coaches who took over within the last year (thanks AeroNaught):

    Alan Koch
    (Cincinnati) - head coach of the USL version of Cincinnati since February 2017, officially hired to the MLS team in November 2018

    Caleb Porter (Columbus) - last coached Portland, left in November 2017

    Chris Armas (New York Red Bulls) - assistant coach at NY, promoted when Marsch left in July 2018

    Domènec Torrent (New York City FC) - assistant coach at Manchester City until Vieira left in June 2018

    Frank de Boer (Atlanta United) - last coached Crystal Palace in September 2017

    Guillermo Barros Schelotto (LA Galaxy) - last coached Boca Juniors in December 2018

    James O'Connor (Orlando City) - last coached Louisville City in June 2018

    Luchi Gonzalez (FC Dallas) - previously FC Dallas Academy Director

    Marc Dos Santos (Vancouver) - assistant coach at LAFC until being hired in November 2018

    Matías Almeyda (San Jose) - last coached Chivas Guadalajara in June 2018


    Plus five coaches entering just their second season with their current MLS team:
    Brad Friedel (New England)
    Giovanni Savarese (Portland)
    Bob Bradley (LAFC)
    Rémi Garde (Montreal)
    Anthony Hudson (Colorado)

    That leaves as the grizzled MLS veterans:
    Peter Vermes (Sporting KC since 2009)
    Ben Olsen (DC United since 2010)
    Jim Curtin (Philadelphia since 2014)
    Greg Vanney (Toronto since 2014)
    Veljko Paunović (Chicago since 2015)
    Brian Schmetzer (Seattle since 2016)
    Wilmer Cabrera (Houston since 2017)
    Adrian Heath (Minnesota since 2017)
    Mike Petke (RSL since 2017)

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    Prominent MLS coaches from 2018 who will not be coaching in MLS in 2019:
    Jesse Marsch: NYRB --> RB Leipzig (assistant coach)
    Patrick Vieira: NYCFC --> OGC Nice
    Oscar Pareja: FC Dallas --> Club Tijuana
    Gregg Berhalter: Columbus --> USMNT
    Tata Martino: Atlanta --> Mexico (rumored)
    Sigi Schmid: RIP, last coached LA Galaxy
    Dom Kinnear: LA Galaxy --> LA Galaxy (assistant coach)

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    With some big names moving in and out of MLS, and some MLS coaches getting big jobs elsewhere...
    Is the future of MLS "DP" coaches?
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    New year, new poll... Note that despite all the coaching turnover, four of top five (Olsen, Curtin, Heaps, Paunovic, Heath) from the previous "I can't believe this guy has a job coaching in MLS" poll that was created in summer 2017, still have their jobs in 2019!

    [Note that with 24 coaches and only 20 poll options, I left off Vermes (he's never leaving right?), Armas, Bradley, and Porter]
     
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  2. firefan2001

    firefan2001 Member+

    Dec 27, 2000
    Oswego, Illinois
    Club:
    Chicago Fire
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    I don't care that he signed a two year contract, this asshole will get fired in 2019. That is if Joe buys the remaining 51% form Andi and he hires a replacement for NRod (after he's fired).
     
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  3. xbhaskarx

    xbhaskarx Member+

    San Jose Earthquakes
    United States
    Feb 13, 2010
    NorCal
    Club:
    San Jose Earthquakes
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
  4. xbhaskarx

    xbhaskarx Member+

    San Jose Earthquakes
    United States
    Feb 13, 2010
    NorCal
    Club:
    San Jose Earthquakes
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    D.C. United extends Coach Ben Olsen through 2021

    Plus here's all the coaching related news posted at the end of the previous thread:

    Columbus Crew SC name Caleb Porter head coach, Tim Bezbatchenko president

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  5. jaykoz3

    jaykoz3 Member+

    Dec 25, 2010
    Conshohocken, PA
    Club:
    Philadelphia Union
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    I would think the warmest seats would be:

    Jim Curtin - one year deal, new sporting director

    Domenec Torrent - Didn't finish the season strong, won't have Herrera and Villa in 2019

    Remi Garde - Joey Saputo doesn't like losing

    James O'Connor - New management, that didn't hire him. Also an impatient owner

    Adrian Heath - Year three, and a new stadium. It's put up or shut up time. Road form will be key.
     
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  6. xbhaskarx

    xbhaskarx Member+

    San Jose Earthquakes
    United States
    Feb 13, 2010
    NorCal
    Club:
    San Jose Earthquakes
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    ^ I think those five make the most sense...

    With seven votes in the poll so far, no coach has more than one (Heath, Hudson, Friedel, Torrent, O'Connor, Curtin, Paunovic with one each)... another area where MLS has #parity

    Edit: right as I type that Adrian Heath gets his second vote
     
  7. PTFC in KCMO

    PTFC in KCMO Member+

    Aug 12, 2012
    Club:
    Portland Timbers
    All I am saying is Adrian Heath better watch his ass.
     
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  8. JasonMa

    JasonMa Member+

    Mar 20, 2000
    Arvada, CO
    Club:
    Colorado Rapids
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    If Hudson shows progress then his seat is pretty cool this season. A repeat of last year though and it will heat up quickly. The Rapids finally finish paying Pablo off at the end of the season so they'll be more open to buying out the last year of Hudson's contract.
     
  9. STR1

    STR1 Member+

    Atlanta United
    United States
    May 29, 2010
    Club:
    Real Madrid

    Are NYCFC getting any replacements for Villa and Herrera? Because without any replacements of the same caliber or better I don't see the team doing anything and Torrent getting fired. That is of course if owners care for this team at all.
     
  10. Bluecat82

    Bluecat82 Member+

    Feb 24, 1999
    Minneapolis, MN
    Club:
    Minnesota United FC
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    Heath leading by a wide margin...which may be the only thing he wins before the home opener.
     
  11. PTFC in KCMO

    PTFC in KCMO Member+

    Aug 12, 2012
    Club:
    Portland Timbers
    Who the ******** voted for Frank de Boer?

    I’d really like to hear the reasoning for that one.
     
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  12. Bluecat82

    Bluecat82 Member+

    Feb 24, 1999
    Minneapolis, MN
    Club:
    Minnesota United FC
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    They can't believe he'd stoop so low?
     
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  13. DanGerman

    DanGerman Member+

    Aug 28, 2014
    New York City
    Club:
    New York City FC
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    Haven't gotten any new signings of note (Rocha being brought in doesn't exactly excite me). This season is a make or break season for me with regards to my season tickets. I'm not dropping 1K for 2 tickets to watch a shit show. I'll just buy my tickets on stubhub and save my money.
     
  14. xbhaskarx

    xbhaskarx Member+

    San Jose Earthquakes
    United States
    Feb 13, 2010
    NorCal
    Club:
    San Jose Earthquakes
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    Jesse Marsch update:
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    I almost didn't even put him as an option in the poll, but (devil's advocate obviously) he didn't last very long at his two previous coaching jobs, and Atlanta is a very ambitious team with sky-high expectations, so if it wasn't working out Arthur Blank wouldn't hesitate to write the check to replace him.
    As for who voted for Frank de Boer, obviously it's either an Atlanta hater, or an Atlanta fan since they vote for the Atlanta option in every poll (goal of the week, Tata Martino for best dressed coach, etc.)...
     
  15. FoxBoro 143

    FoxBoro 143 Member+

    Jan 18, 2004
    MA
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    I was the second vote. The question is "next to get fired" not worst coach.
    The Revs won't fire Friedel for at least two more seasons almost regardless of results. Chicago just inexplicably gave an extension to Veljko, meaning he is almost certainly safe for at least a season. The Rapids don't care enough to fire Hudson.

    Then you have De Boar, who needs to regain credibility still and is going to an ambitious club which won't hesitate to make a move. We've all seen stories like him before in which a manager has a couple of very successful stints followed by a long string of failures.
    That being said, I think he will have success, but I'd say his odds of being fired this season are at least 20%, which is behind Heath who 100% should already be fired, and just slightly better than Dome who has enough sway in the CFG organization to keep him in the job long enough to outlast at least two managers.
     
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  16. xbhaskarx

    xbhaskarx Member+

    San Jose Earthquakes
    United States
    Feb 13, 2010
    NorCal
    Club:
    San Jose Earthquakes
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
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  17. Bill Archer

    Bill Archer BigSoccer Supporter

    Mar 19, 2002
    Washington, NC
    Club:
    Columbus Crew
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    #17 Bill Archer, Jan 7, 2019
    Last edited by a moderator: Jan 7, 2019
    With all due respect, Austin FC hiring someone to head their academy is not really "MLS Coaching thread" material.
     
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  18. GunnerJacket

    GunnerJacket Moderator
    Staff Member

    Sep 18, 2003
    Gainesville, GA
    Club:
    Arsenal FC
    *glares @ Bluecat*
     
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  19. Bluecat82

    Bluecat82 Member+

    Feb 24, 1999
    Minneapolis, MN
    Club:
    Minnesota United FC
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    #19 Bluecat82, Jan 7, 2019
    Last edited by a moderator: Jan 7, 2019
    Front Office?
     
  20. Bluecat82

    Bluecat82 Member+

    Feb 24, 1999
    Minneapolis, MN
    Club:
    Minnesota United FC
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    That would be MLS in general, not Atlanta in particular.
     
  21. GunnerJacket

    GunnerJacket Moderator
    Staff Member

    Sep 18, 2003
    Gainesville, GA
    Club:
    Arsenal FC
    Oh, that's better.

    Hey, wait a minute...
     
  22. Egbert Sousé

    Egbert Sousé Member

    NYCFC
    May 25, 2013
    nyc
    Club:
    New York City FC
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    For the most part I agree with this. I believe that unless something catastrophic takes place, Dome leaves when he wants to leave.
     
  23. morrissey

    morrissey Moderator
    Staff Member

    Feb 18, 2000
    West Los Angeles, Calif
    Club:
    DC United
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    I put Olsen because of wishful thinking.

    james
     
  24. GunnerJacket

    GunnerJacket Moderator
    Staff Member

    Sep 18, 2003
    Gainesville, GA
    Club:
    Arsenal FC
    Re: Martino

    I'm grateful for his time here in Atlanta but for his duration as head of El Tri I hope he fails miserably.
     
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