MLS Chivas a bad thing?

I know what most of the epl, german, and la liga teams are comprised of. I also know that MFL and MLS put a cap foreign internationals

Keep in mind MLS is a VERY YOUNG league. We can not afford to let another entity dominate with foreign players. That is why there is a CAP on foreign SI and TI slots with exception to players holding green cards

I think we know what americans are smart alec.

whose they? not according to the interviews he has done.

LOL! you are so ignorant! I have never heard of Hispanic players that came from central or south america. Hispanics are mexican-american. yes we do have a VERY good idea of what he will do to make the team completely foreign and stay within MLS guidelines. (read previous posts.)

 

Re: Re: MLS Chivas a bad thing?

Wow. Aren't you a font of knowledge.

 

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Huh??? Hispanic doesn't just refer to Mexicans.

His·pan·ic ( P ) Pronunciation Key (h-spnk)
adj.
Of or relating to Spain or Spanish-speaking Latin America.
Of or relating to a Spanish-speaking people or culture.

 

Re: Re: MLS Chivas a bad thing?

Oh really? I suppose you can guarantee he will stick strickly to guildlines just like every american club so far? Many clubs do it yes in europe etc. I don't argue that. What some of us worry about are the possible negative affects on US soccer and player developement. This is our league. MFL puts strick guidelines on foreign players/investment. MLS has every right to do the same. Vergara better set things right because alot of us don't believe he will shoot straight.

 

So, it all makes sense now . . .

Vergara says, "My team will have Hispanic players!"

deg thinks, "The Mexicans are coming."

He battens down the hatches, mourns for the fate of MLS, and marches over to the computer to begin the wailing, weeping and gnashing of teeth.

Carlos Bocanegra, Claudio Reyna, Memo Gonzales, Pablo Mastroeni, Tab Ramos, etc, are all Hispanic. If they were somehow all on a San Diego team - heck, I'd support them.

If, deggie, you are looking for the term that specifies Mexican, I believe that's Chicano.

You are in general, a rather sad, paranoid and negative example of an American soccer fan. I shudder at the thought that you might not be the only one.

If Vergara does not follow MLS guidelines, he will not be allowed in the league. That part is simple. You can get all the "bad vibes" you want, but all the clubs follow the same rules. That's what makes a league legitimate.

 

Well sorta..
Here's a page that explains Chicano and Hispanic and Mexican and every other term used on this thread and Big Soccer.

http://www.azteca.net/aztec/chicano.html

 

Femfa, The only thing I am worried about is whether or not the league and american soccer developement suffers.

I would proudly support them but that's not what Chivas USA will be comprised of.

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The league(MLS HQ) and new investor have not made guarantees or assurances that this will be the case.

 

Wolves, I'm sorry, but that's the most inane page ever.

It basically says that whatever term you use is wrong or insulting (possibly) because of the vagueness of exact definition.

So, to be on the safe side, you should just refer to everyone as "people"?

Then again, mebbe the site has a point.

In which case, Vergara will not have Mexicans or Americans on his squad. They will be people.

Who play soccer.

 

Aha!

You KNOW this the same way you KNEW that Hispanic means Mexican?

I have great faith in the things you know.

 

On the positive side, maybe this will mean we'll never have to see another All-Star Game with MLS versus an actual Mexican team.

See, I just think that if the Man U board of directors wanted to start a team in New York, (using their ties with the Yankees), and mentioned wanting to bring developing European talent to U.S. audiences, no one would bat an eye. Maybe they'd be called the New York Red Devils or something.

There would be some worry that our best players might get sucked into the European pipeline and leave us dry, but quietly, a lot of U.S. fans would be honored and excited.

I just think a lot of this has to do with some MLS fans desire to make it a great league, but they want it to be a U.S.only game. We don't mind having Dominican's and Japanese coming into Baseball, because no one will ever question that it's our game, and we control it.

I say, if Vergara wants a team, bring em on. The Galaxy will use them as a doormat.

 

No, no, you should say "those people."

 

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Bright:

Your message is clear and loud. Good answer.

FYI: There are now thousands of Mexicans living and working in North Carolina. I won't tell you how many undocumented because that may scare somebody else. But you can say thousands. Who else will do the menial low-paying jobs no American wants?

How do you think restaurants, hotel, motel, domestic services, farm jobsm etc... survive and prosper?

A relative of mine who went to North Carolina practically naked and with $20 in his pocket is after 15 years the owner of 10 restaurants...

Only in America...

 

because FML is a Mexican League in a country that is full of MEXICANS. There are almost no American-descend/heritage Mexican citizen in Mexico. Whereas in the US, specifically in San Diego (yes a Spanish language term), there are a lot of Mexican-descend/heritage American citizens.

Let's just put it this way.
In mexico, American-Mexicans: less than 0.1 % of the population, thus there is ZERO market
In San Diego, Mexican-Americans: around 30-40% of the population, thus there is a significant MARKET.

By the way, I talked to Vergera the other day, he told me the majority of the team players will be AMERICANS. Doesn't that satisfy you?

Or you just pissed that the investor is not an American.

 

That's bull. I think MLS fans would be extremely nervous that said team wouldn't be following MLS rules.

There are TWO (2) different concerns here. One is that Chivas won't have to follow MLS rules, which IMO is a legitimate worry. The other is that the team will seek out Mexicans and Mexican-Americans, but follow MLS rules on SIs, TIs, etc. A few people worry about that.

Let's not confuse the two.

 

I feel the same way but it's just for those who want to try to state things like only Mexicans are Hispanics and such..

 

Excellent point. I personally don't think it's a great idea for him to try to fill it all with Mexicans, latinos, or hispanic people or of the same descent. I just don't think that most people would react very well to that here in America. However, you're absolutely right that he will not be taking anyone's job. Presumably because he's adding the team they'll be even MORE slots for American players. There of course will be a dispersal draft, and of course at least SOME americans on his team, and someone will have to fill that void.

 

Sure there are other cities that have been mentioned as possiable expansion sites, but none with an owner who seems to be so passionate and well financed. It's not like there's a line of investors going PICK ME PICK ME PICK ME.

 

Let's try this one more time:

The only instances in which Vergara would be taking an expansion spot away from someone else would be if either another investor wants SD or MLS has so many teams that it can't expand any further. Neither instance exists now or is likely to exist in the foreseeable future.

 

Anderson: Have you read all my books?

How come you always take away words from my mouth?

Your score so far: 5--0 in your favor...

 

ay caramba...

Do you really think that MLS would turn down an otherwise desirable expansion deal just so they could stay at 12?

And, of course, there's also this notion that some of us refer to as reality. Just how many viable expansion candidates do you really think there are?