The "potential" (lol); *USMNT plays Gold Cups every 2 years. All at home with home field advantage. Never plays finals in Mexico or Canada or Costa Rica.. *USMNT plays some friendlies at home, which draws shit attendance by the way, that even our best player Pulisic says they should have more support at HOME. *USMNT plays Nations Leagues every year against Caribbean sides away but the "strong" opponents (per CONCACAF standars) at home. The only potential USMNT has is in your head lol. All we play are Gold Cups and Nations League over and over. We don't even play Copa America regularly ffs. Those dual nats that had no option but to play for us really have fans like you overhyping USMNT.
I thought I asked you nicely to refrain from making up my views. I forgot you were unable answer actual questions. I have clue what you mean by "potential ". With those next three statements are you trying to make an argument that because we are stuck in concacaf, we never be able to improve, no matter how good of players we have? If so, that is odd. You have shown no signs of knowing what is in my head. So why make a statement like that? What do think I mean when I say potential? Why do keep bringing up overhyping? Nobody is doing that.
That's what you posted. By the way it will look mighty awkward if USMNT crashes out in next month's NL at HOME under a real coach that has finally unlocked our "full potential" (still lol at this statement). For the sake of not hearing any comparisons I hope USMNT keeps on winning NL now this time with a real coach and real tactics. Those lineups rosters you talk about are mostly dual nats that chose us because their NT didn't even want them. And I'll give you that MLS isn't needed. I agree. So if we take out any USMNT player that was developed and/or played in MLS we would just be another Jamaica 2.0 also with a bunch of rejects. Similar level too. I wonder if Jamaica fans also overhype their NT because of dual nat rejects like USMNT fans like you do.
Fortunately for Pochettino there’s already the built-in excuse that the two upcoming tournaments don’t matter. The World Cup is pretty much his only test reputation wise and even then he probably already has one foot back in Tottenham regardless of what happens.
I dont give a damn about concacaf. The only thing in this paragraph worth noting is an MLS admitting how much of joke Berhalter was. So by MLS having academies, MLS fans can now denigrate our player pool. They have no clue how development occurs, but they know that without NYCFC, Gio wouldn't have made it. If cant explain what mean when say potential or why it is funny to you, probably not worth continuing. I seriously have no clue what you are saying. I am gaining nothing from engaging with you and you don't seem to be a person who can process information, let alone change you weird views.
You were so charming soft here in the quote below; I'll give you Reyna, McKennie and Scally too. They never played a single minute in MLS, just academy minutes. Still doesn't take away from the fact that USMNT depends from dual nats who were ghosted by their other National teams and chose us as a second option. It is those dual nat rejects that have fans like you thinking we are the next France lol. Aren't they after some German-Americans right now? Better hope they aren't that good to play for Germany that way we can reach our "full potential" And speaking of Berhalter, those comparisons are coming next month whether you like it or not. You started them here already.Win or lose they'll show up. We finally have a real coach with real tactics so beating Panama and then either Canada or the "worst Mexico ever" should be even easier than it was before.
This will probably be my last response to you. You continue misrepresent my views and don't have any clue what you are arguing about. The list is much larger than that. No idea why you keep going on about dual nationals. We have always used dual nationals and young group we have is a more talented bunch than we have ever had. Not sure why you denigrate them and claim they were ghosted by other nations when that obnoxious narrative isn't true for most of them. Ignorant MLS fans were saying we couldn't depend on dual nationals (which clearly we can) over 10 years ago. The talent of the non duals is higher than we ever had as well. Not sure why I am spelling this out for you, but the implication of all of that last paragraph is that we are improving in developing players. I will state the other obvious thing being that every part of soccer is growing and improving in this country. As an MLS fan, you seem to be satisfied with whatever MLS gives and the only attempt to make believe like you understand the game is state advanced stats you don't understand. You guys seem unable to look beyond the one game in front of you and only thing that matters is the score. My stated goal was for the USMNT to be better than whatever average word you used. To do that, we have to improve at things and/or do things better. That is a goal that will take decades not years, but believe we have the potential to get their. The flip side would be for example that in 15 years we have become a top 10 team and we would likely said that our system had these players reach their potential. Currently, most American soccer dont ever get near their actual potential. As I said earlier, I dont give a damn about results against concacaf. Berhalter was the worst coach in our history and Poch has already improved the team more than Berhalter ever could. After his disaster, we should never higher another MLS coach again.
For someone so soft as you saying you don't like when people put words in your mouth you sure do like to do that. No one has ever said they want MLS players in USMNT. That's you making imaginary scenarios in your head and then claiming people are saying that. That's you making imaginary conversations in your head when no one ever said that. But hey, it's okay if you do it but when I quote what YOU said I'm putting words in your mouth and saying things you never said. If you don't care about USMNT in CONCACAF then you are a casual fan. You are the type of USMNT fan that appears every 4 years. Claims he doesn't care about CONCACAF. Probably cause we lost to Mexico, with Poch, after a run of games that they couldn't beat us. Yeah, you are a casual fan that just appears every 4 years.
Yes, a ussf board member has said it and over paid to make it happen. You are the one making shit up. Nah, I care about getting better. The style of play is nothing like we see when competing on the world stage. It is why morons were convinced Zimmerman was amazing when he shouldn't be in the pool. Calling me casual and showing up every 4 years is retarded. I would have no problem if Poch used a gameplan that would be used at the world cup, performed well (this is key, and something an MLS fan like yourself couldn't even comprehend how to assess, and lost. I prefer winning, but building is more important. You have zero clue about building.
well the communist aspecgt of MLS may have been necessary for it to survive in the beginning but nowits become a gigantic albatross around its neck...an artificially low ceiling. the lack of any team establishing a winning or losing pattern is by design. it is borrowed from the NFL that does the same rotation of teams in the spotlight to maximize fan interest. the controller of MLS is Dong Garber. he set it up like this ...and it will never be better than it is now unless they take the training wheels off. MLS is extremely fascist. they treat the sport of soccer in the USA as if they own it in its entirety....squashing and destroying any alternative leagues, infiltrating and coopting ussf, they have a no free speech clause in the league that fines any players/coaches for simply speaking their minds in a way that the dictator, garber, doesnt apporve of, they decide if player transfers can happen or not centrally....redusing to let fc dallas sell a player to russia, for example 9but there are many other examples), they force players into extremely unfreindly contracts with many option years and blackball any players who dont play along. Fascism (/ˈfæʃɪzəm/ FASH-iz-əm) is a far-right, authoritarian, and ultranationalist political ideology and movement,[1][2][3] characterized by a dictatorial leader DON GARBER, centralized autocracy (duh) , militarism (okay no....but they have ridiculius rules about what fans can do at games), forcible suppression of opposition (um yes they destroy any other leagues in the USA) , belief in a natural social hierarchy, subordination of individual interests for the perceived good of the nation or race (yes x1000000) , and strong regimentation of society and the economy...(yep) its not even debateable.... i agree about euro leagues....but its funny that europe which is much more socialist...has a league system that is extremely capitalist and the usa which is capitalist has totalitarian state of soccer. the thing about euro leagues that is great, though, is that when you look at euorpe as a whole.....the pyramd/ladder works great....players can move up and down the ladder and each league is slightly better orworse...which is wnderful for player development......ultimately the champions league unites it all and unifies the ladder. even though it can seem like the good teams are always the same.....it is still open to competition and over time the good teams do change, it just takes longer
Imagine calling yourself a USMNT fan (or fan of anything) and saying you care about performing well and not results. As a fan I want to win. Ugly win or dominate win, a win is a win and if it comes with Championships even better. Performing well but losing at the end does nothing. We did it in 2002. Costa Rica also reached QF in 2014. South Korea, Morocco etc have done well in a WC and have done nothing after. Every NT in the world has its ups and downs. It's something delusional USMNT fans like you don't comprehend. You all think we will improve with rejects from other NTs and go up and up and up from there. France and Spain have won the WC and crashed in GS the following WC having some of the best players in the world.
Imagine.... I think you are loser like all other MLS fans. Let me know if you want me to expand on this.
It's ironic that a guy that says he doesn't care about winning as long as we perform is talking about being a loser.
Says the guy that all of a sudden under a new coach now "doesn't care about CONCACAF." Loser mentality considering NL and GC are the ONLY two tournaments we play prior to the WC. If we can't win those tournaments AT HOME against mid to mediocre competition and under a better coach it won't look good going into the WC. What a loser you turned out to be.
Nah, You are more of a loser. Only a loser would say he doesn't care about results in the 2 tournaments USMNT is going to play in before the WC and against mid competition. If USMNT doesn't win those tournaments any loser would bring up excuses saying those don't matter. We haven't even played in them and you are already preparing the excuses incase we don't win. Yep, 100% a fraud.
One wonders whether some of the posters on this forum are actually USMNT fans. They seem to be fans of some imaginary team they're making up in their heads. If you're a USMNT fan, then you want them to win every game. [Its like people who said they wanted the USMNT to lose and fail under Berhalter so that he could be replaced. Pathetic. ] Yes, these two events are critically important. We may not send our best team to both. We don't have any comment from the USMNT staff or USSF on that. But if we don't send our "best" team to the Gold Cup, then it becomes a critically important event for players on that World Cup bubble to state their cases. And a great opportunity to incorporate some new talent. Maybe the Damion Downs and Noahkai Banks types. There is a purpose to every USMNT game and every USYNT camp.
So an MLS and federation shill thinks he gets to decide what it means to be a fan. I personally think your view is retarded. Your view is prevalemt throughout our game and it is detriment to our success. [Losing in the Copa is one the best moments in USMNT history. If you don't understand that, you are moron and should be ignored.]
you would rather berhalter did well enough in copa to still be the usmnt coach? and not have poch??? for me, that makes me question if YOU are a usmnt fan or not! getting Poch is what ive been waitng decades for
They are just fans of certain players and coaches. They aren't really USMNT fans. Notice bsky22 and his sudden deflection of "I don't care about CONCACAF" now that Pochetino is a coach. Of course he doesn't care because if Pochetino can't win NL and GC and do it on a convincing way it will look bad on these type of "fans". That's why for certain players and coaches these "fans" demand a lot, almost perfection, but when it comes to their favorites they turn a blind eye or "don't care because it's for the long term". If we are as good as everyone says we are we should be dominating NL and GC all the time. And now with a better coach it should be even more evident. No excuses. For fan comparison purposes, if Aguirre doesn't win Nations League and/or Gold Cup, the 2 tournaments before the WC, he will be on the hot seat. Probably be fired by the Mexican Federation. Media will press and ask questions. Mexico fans will demand they hire Almada or Jardine to replace Aguirre. While here, if USMNT doesn't win NL and GC, just because it's Pochetino, "fans" will be silent, bring up some lame excuses as to why it doesn't matter that we didn't win. There are level to this. Most USMNT fans aren't really fans of US, they are fans of some players and some select coaches.
Would you be critical if Pochetino can't win Nations League and Gold Cup? And not only win but do it in a dominant fashion? Or do you have your lame excuses lined up like bsky22?