MLS Bias

Discussion in 'USA Men' started by Dan Kohner, Jan 29, 2025.

  1. STR1

    STR1 Member+

    Atlanta United
    United States
    May 29, 2010
    Club:
    Real Madrid
    You never heard of him or have ever seen him play until someone on X said he was eligible. Now all of a sudden he is the best option.


    So now Pochetino is the problem? Is there a time players playing in Europe get the blame for how bad they play?
     
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  2. nbarbour

    nbarbour Member+

    Jun 19, 2006
    Washington DC
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    Weah was set up to fail. He also performed poorly. Two things can be true at once.
     
  3. Paul Berry

    Paul Berry Member+

    Notts County and NYCFC
    United States
    Apr 18, 2015
    Nr Kingston NY
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    Played for every Japan age group team since he was 14. Called up for a couple of friendlies for the full NT but didn't get off the bench.

    Spent his career mainly in J3 and J2 before joining Antwerp last season on a free, as a backup keeper, before taking over during a terrible run of form.

    No idea if anyone from the US has contacted him, unless Adam has been intercepting his email and phone calls for the last 10 years.
     
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  4. An Unpaved Road

    An Unpaved Road Member+

    Mar 22, 2006
    Club:
    --other--
    Surely Garber blocked the call up because he was jealous of the Belgian league.
     
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  5. Paul Berry

    Paul Berry Member+

    Notts County and NYCFC
    United States
    Apr 18, 2015
    Nr Kingston NY
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    That's true. A successful men's national team can only be bad news for soccer in the USA.
     
  6. CoachP365

    CoachP365 Member+

    Money Grab FC
    Apr 26, 2012
    Anybody else google "how many mls based players played in the quarterfinals?"

    The Prem leads the way with 62, followed by La Liga, Serie A, Ligue Ungh, and Der Bundesliga.

    MLS stacks up well with the Portugeuse LIga, Eredivisie. Norway had 4 Championship based players....and 4 in their domestic league.

    If the QF is the goal, seems like a reasonable approach, mostly guys in England/Spain/Italy, a handful of domestics.
     
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  7. STR1

    STR1 Member+

    Atlanta United
    United States
    May 29, 2010
    Club:
    Real Madrid
    We are there already. We just need a better luck of the draw. In 2002 we advanced to QF because we faced off vs Mexico. I think it was on this thread or on another thread that someone said only 3 CONCACAF teams have reached the QF and those were Mexico, US and Costa Rica.

    Mexico vs Bulgaria in 1986
    US vs Mexico in 2002
    Costa Rica vs Greece in 2014

    All three nations did it by facing off to a similar quality opponent or inferior.
     
  8. superdave

    superdave Member+

    Jul 14, 1999
    Raleigh NC
    Club:
    DC United
    Nat'l Team:
    United States


    You have no basis for saying this. You don’t watch the Belgian league. You’re a troll.
     
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  9. Grumpy in LA

    Grumpy in LA Bringing It Since 1807™

    Sep 10, 2007
    Chicago
    Club:
    Los Angeles Galaxy
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    For some people, their agenda is their evidence.
     
  10. Paul Berry

    Paul Berry Member+

    Notts County and NYCFC
    United States
    Apr 18, 2015
    Nr Kingston NY
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    Nozawa was on the bench for Japan against the US in the U17 World Cup, so I'm guessing any discussion about eligibility would have taken place around then, especially as it was Earnie Stewart's time in charge.

    Not everyone wants to play a the country they have no affinity to, especially when they've been part of another country's program their whole career. See Zion Suzuki or Nene Brown.
     
  11. An Unpaved Road

    An Unpaved Road Member+

    Mar 22, 2006
    Club:
    --other--
    Dual internationals developed outside the domestic system who play in Europe are like catnip for some fans.
     
  12. Paul Berry

    Paul Berry Member+

    Notts County and NYCFC
    United States
    Apr 18, 2015
    Nr Kingston NY
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    They seem to find it incomprehensible that someone who has never lived in the United States may not want to represent at Soccerball.

    I guess Trent Alexander-Arnold missed his big opportunity to be taxed twice on his income.
     
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  13. An Unpaved Road

    An Unpaved Road Member+

    Mar 22, 2006
    Club:
    --other--
    Yeah, it’s weird to see a player who has never represented the U.S. at any level as a missed opportunity.
     
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  14. Clint Eastwood

    Clint Eastwood Member+

    Dec 23, 2003
    Somerville, MA
    Club:
    FC Dallas
    Just like 2022, we are going to have an ACTIVE MLS player in the World Cup final.
    This time we might have two. Messi and Rodrigo de Paul.

    Not only that..............................there's a good chance that the World Cup Golden Boot winner will be an active MLS player.
     
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  15. STR1

    STR1 Member+

    Atlanta United
    United States
    May 29, 2010
    Club:
    Real Madrid
    And I'm over here hoping Pulisic doesn't come to MLS.

    Maybe that's what he needs. At least he'll always be available to play Gold Cups and Nations Leagues and just might not be injured as much but I'm doubtful in this last one. Man is made of glass.
     
  16. ThreeApples

    ThreeApples Member+

    Jul 28, 1999
    Smurf Village
    Club:
    San Jose Earthquakes
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    This will be the first time with an MLS player on the field.
     
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  17. Mahtzo1

    Mahtzo1 Member+

    Jan 15, 2007
    So Cal
    Perhaps, but, if so, every player that is trying to earn a spot is "set up to fail".

    I believe that most people: former players, commentators and posters etc like to underline the importance of taking your chances when you get them. Weah wasn't first choice going into the Turkiye game. He had a chance to change that opinion with a good performance.

    Bottom line is that if the player isn't getting minutes, manager doesn't like him or whatever, he needs to produce when given an opportunity. He didn't produce. Period. Aaronson didn't produce either. They weren't the only ones.
     
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  18. gogorath

    gogorath Member+

    None
    United States
    May 12, 2019
    This is right, but also we need to stop with the "We set Weah up to fail."

    This is just the usual protecting of our players. Oh no! Weah was asked to play on the left! I agree, he's not as good there.

    But it's also completely indicative of the fact that he's not that good and he's not playing that well.

    At some point, the standard for our players needs to become "Yes, this was hard but they came up big" and not "Oh, everything wasn't perfect for our baby; that's why he sucked."

    Show me the guys who shine through in difficult times or lift their teammates rather than the guys who collapse when they have to gasp! play with a backup or gosh! adjust to a new position.
     
  19. Paul Berry

    Paul Berry Member+

    Notts County and NYCFC
    United States
    Apr 18, 2015
    Nr Kingston NY
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    Look at Weah's heatmap against Turkey compared to Brenden and Pulisic.

    I don't know if this was per instruction.

    We really could have done with Luna.

    Timmy
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    Brenden
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    Puli
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  20. Mahtzo1

    Mahtzo1 Member+

    Jan 15, 2007
    So Cal
    Agree, but I also think that the "he was set up to fail" meme gets thrown up more based upon preconceived notions of "player quality". It definitely does not get spread evenly. How many times did we see people blaming Berhalter for stars underperforming, while at the same time using a poor performance from an "inferior" player as confirmation of their level.
     
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  21. Mahtzo1

    Mahtzo1 Member+

    Jan 15, 2007
    So Cal
    Not sure exactly what to make of it, but it is quite interesting.
     
  22. An Unpaved Road

    An Unpaved Road Member+

    Mar 22, 2006
    Club:
    --other--
    I can picture him yelling at the ref in a CCC game when things aren’t going well. :p
     
  23. Demo250

    Demo250 Member

    Mar 26, 2025
    Weah was a disappointment.
     
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  24. Mahtzo1

    Mahtzo1 Member+

    Jan 15, 2007
    So Cal
    Yes, he was but I am not ready to write him off.
     
  25. adam tash

    adam tash Member+

    Jul 12, 2013
    Barcelona, Spain
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    no he wasnt...he just played poorly

    him moving to outside back for club was so bizarre to me

    what do you think should have been different for him to succeed exactly?
     

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