News: MLS and Liga MX expanding Leagues Cup in 2023

Discussion in 'MLS: News & Analysis' started by pr0ner, Sep 21, 2021.

  1. POdinCowtown

    POdinCowtown Member+

    Jan 15, 2002
    Columbus
    How could you forget the legendary CONCACAF Giant's Cup? :laugh:
     
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  2. morrissey

    morrissey Moderator
    Staff Member

    Feb 18, 2000
    West Los Angeles, Calif
    Club:
    DC United
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    These are all just bs cash grabs with no clear path. Maybe this will work, likely not. We already have the CCC (or whatever) that gets you into the WCC. That's enough.
     
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  3. footballfantatic

    Mar 27, 2008
    Ontario, California
    Club:
    Los Angeles Galaxy
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    MLS will benefit from the better competition. We will learn from our mistakes versus the better (on paper) Mexican teams and hopefully use it to do better in the CCL and CWC. This tournament could also help MLS get a bigger TV deal. If it doesn't work out, MLS can just end it like all the other failed start-up competitions before. I think it is worth the gamble.
     
  4. morrissey

    morrissey Moderator
    Staff Member

    Feb 18, 2000
    West Los Angeles, Calif
    Club:
    DC United
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    The gamble is if it makes them money or not. If they can make money they will keep going. If this works and the Mexican teams don't feel like it dilutes their play or negatively impacts their league goals or player health then maybe it will stick.
     
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  5. morrissey

    morrissey Moderator
    Staff Member

    Feb 18, 2000
    West Los Angeles, Calif
    Club:
    DC United
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    Even then it will be glorified friendlies in the middle of a season with a made up trophy to win.
     
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  6. Mr. Bandwagon

    Mr. Bandwagon Member

    Terremotos
    May 24, 2001
    the Barbary Coast
    Club:
    San Jose Earthquakes
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    Not arguing, but technically all trophies are made up. And because it is ~US v ~Mex it probably won't be that friendly either. But it will be in the middle of the season.
     
  7. An Unpaved Road

    An Unpaved Road Member+

    Mar 22, 2006
    Club:
    --other--
    All trophies are made up.
     
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  8. POdinCowtown

    POdinCowtown Member+

    Jan 15, 2002
    Columbus
    Maybe. If both teams play B-sides, who does it improve? If SKC made the final would Vermes roll out his backups to save the starters for the following week's MLS resumption?
     
  9. Yoshou

    Yoshou Moderator
    Staff Member

    May 12, 2009
    Seattle
    Club:
    Seattle Sounders
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    The point of hitting pause on the season is so they don’t have to play their b-teams..
     
  10. An Unpaved Road

    An Unpaved Road Member+

    Mar 22, 2006
    Club:
    --other--
    The B-sides still get a game they normally wouldn't in that scenario.

    I wouldn't mind a "Europa League" version of Leagues Cup so I could maybe see my local USL club against international opponents.
     
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  11. KCbus

    KCbus Moderator
    Staff Member

    United States
    Nov 26, 2000
    Reynoldsburg, OH
    Club:
    Columbus Crew
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    I can't wait for that enthralling Necaxa/Austin match.

    And you can throw out the record books when Tijuana and Cincinnati get together.
     
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  12. morrissey

    morrissey Moderator
    Staff Member

    Feb 18, 2000
    West Los Angeles, Calif
    Club:
    DC United
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    Yes all trophies are made up but we've had large competitions like the USOC and the CCL that have a history and track record and something legit for winning. I hope this doesn't dilute the quality of games leading into and out of this thing. I personally don't care and won't watch, but I rarely watch anything due to time anyway - just DC and LAFC at this point.
     
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  13. An Unpaved Road

    An Unpaved Road Member+

    Mar 22, 2006
    Club:
    --other--
    You can build history and track records. Had SuperLiga not folded it would be older than the rebranded CCL. Maybe Leagues Cup will be a memory in ten years. Maybe it will last, breed some entertaining rivalries, and be continuously growing in stature. I'm willing to give it a chance.

    Also, history isn't everything. The Open Cup is a cool thing for enthusiasts and U.S. soccer history buffs, but it's not exactly a competition that feels especially important, imo.
     
  14. ArsenalMetro

    ArsenalMetro Member+

    United States
    Aug 5, 2008
    Chicago, IL
    Club:
    Arsenal FC
    Hope I can flip my season tickets that will definitely get applied to this for a profit.

    This thing is ********ing stupid. Terrible concept, terrible timing, terrible format, and just wildly unnecessary overall. I hate every aspect of it.
     
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  15. crookeddy

    crookeddy Member+

    Apr 27, 2004
    Great news! Now it's going to be great for sure
     
  16. Revolt

    Revolt Member+

    Jun 16, 1999
    Davis, CA
    Club:
    San Jose Earthquakes
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    More dates at stadiums most clubs control = more money on one hand to allow losses on other hand.

    However, I think the Leagues Cup will be a clear money-maker. US-based Mexican fans will be enough + just enough MLS fans.
     
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  17. Revolt

    Revolt Member+

    Jun 16, 1999
    Davis, CA
    Club:
    San Jose Earthquakes
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    In this case, it help build depth - a perennial MLS concern.
     
  18. AZUL GALAXY

    AZUL GALAXY Member

    Aug 28, 2009
    Los Angeles
    Club:
    CDSC Cruz Azul
    That is the business mentality, every sport owner
    in the world in here to make money, if not is like us,
    Only fans
     
  19. wantmlsphilly

    wantmlsphilly Member+

    Aug 2, 2006
    Philadelphia, Pa.
    Club:
    Philadelphia Union
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    Las Vegas is announced as team thirty starting in 2023 just in time for the 48 team LC.
    MLS announces ESPN and Paramount+ have agreed to pay 100 million dollars for the rights to LC for the next six years starting in 2023. The third place and championship game will flip flop each year and be broadcast on ABC & CBS. UNIVISION will pay fifty million for the Spanish broadcast rights and the same for TSN in Canada.
    MLS will make it possible for teams to bring up to eight players from the newly formed third division league.
    MLS announces fourth DP but must be under the age of 27 starting in 2023. TAM and GAM will also increase by one million each.
    The final announcement is the total prize money for the tournament is set at 25 million with five million for final game, 3.5 to the winner and the second place team getting 1.5 million.
    #GrowtheGame #AllTrophiesAreMadeUp #LeagueofChoice
     
  20. pr0ner

    pr0ner Member+

    Jan 13, 2007
    Alexandria, VA
    Club:
    DC United
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    Source? Or is this just fantasy?
     
  21. wantmlsphilly

    wantmlsphilly Member+

    Aug 2, 2006
    Philadelphia, Pa.
    Club:
    Philadelphia Union
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    No source. Just a prediction.
     

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