MLS 2017 Week 28 Continuous PBP Thread [Multiple R]

Discussion in 'MLS: News & Analysis' started by Knave, Sep 13, 2017.

  1. sitruc

    sitruc Member+

    Jul 25, 2006
    Virginia
    Well then...

    Double punishment on this?
     
  2. BalanceUT

    BalanceUT RSL and THFC!

    Oct 8, 2006
    Appalachia
    Club:
    Real Salt Lake
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
  3. Dolemite

    Dolemite Member+

    Apr 2, 2001
    East Bay, Ca

    good call hahahah
     
  4. onefineesq

    onefineesq Member+

    Sep 16, 2003
    Laurel, MD
    Club:
    DC United
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    Good call!
     
  5. BalanceUT

    BalanceUT RSL and THFC!

    Oct 8, 2006
    Appalachia
    Club:
    Real Salt Lake
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    New England shooting for 8?
     
  6. Kejsare

    Kejsare Member+

    Portland Timbers
    Mar 10, 2010
    Virginia
    Club:
    Portland Timbers
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    Very harsh red card there. It bounced off his leg and then hit his extended arm. PK, for sure on the handling, but not intended at all.
     
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  7. Sounders78

    Sounders78 Member+

    Apr 20, 2009
    Olympia
    Club:
    Seattle Sounders
    Nat'l Team:
    France
    Atlanta 3-0 (Martinez hat trick)

    We could be looking at a historic scoreline.
     
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  8. sitruc

    sitruc Member+

    Jul 25, 2006
    Virginia
    That was a shitty PK. It didn't matter.
     
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  9. onefineesq

    onefineesq Member+

    Sep 16, 2003
    Laurel, MD
    Club:
    DC United
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    If Josef Martinez hadnt gotten injured this season ....
     
  10. Sounders78

    Sounders78 Member+

    Apr 20, 2009
    Olympia
    Club:
    Seattle Sounders
    Nat'l Team:
    France
    A yellow would have been more than enough in my mind.
     
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  11. Autogolazo

    Autogolazo BigSoccer Supporter

    Feb 19, 2000
    Bombay Beach, CA
    I just don't understand how Jay Heaps and Mike Burns continue to be employed.

    I guess the answer is they're cheap and that's all Kraft cares about.

    Heaps with a Coach K basketball huddle.
     
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  12. Mucky

    Mucky Member+

    Mar 30, 2009
    Manchester England
    Club:
    Manchester United FC
    Oh the humanity!
    I agree a yellow in these circumstances would have been sensible.
     
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  13. PhillyMLS

    PhillyMLS Member+

    Oct 24, 2000
    SE PA
    I think the thing that makes it look red card worthy is that his arm is swinging forward at the moment of contact in an almost volleyball spike movement.
     
  14. Sounders78

    Sounders78 Member+

    Apr 20, 2009
    Olympia
    Club:
    Seattle Sounders
    Nat'l Team:
    France
    If Martinez gets a 4th goal, would that make it a comb-trick?
     
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  15. Sounders78

    Sounders78 Member+

    Apr 20, 2009
    Olympia
    Club:
    Seattle Sounders
    Nat'l Team:
    France
    If 11 v 11 I'd be more inclined to listen (but still would think it's excessive). But it's already 2-0, you've just awarded a second penalty and they're playing with 10 with over 50 minutes to go. The game is already over.
     
  16. onefineesq

    onefineesq Member+

    Sep 16, 2003
    Laurel, MD
    Club:
    DC United
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    I want Atl to go for the double comb.
     
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  17. sitruc

    sitruc Member+

    Jul 25, 2006
    Virginia
    First half comb!
     
  18. Sounders78

    Sounders78 Member+

    Apr 20, 2009
    Olympia
    Club:
    Seattle Sounders
    Nat'l Team:
    France
    Atlanta 4-0 (Walkes), still first half
     
  19. Sportsfan783

    Sportsfan783 Member

    FC Dallas
    Oct 8, 2010
    Midland, TX
    Club:
    FC Dallas
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    Wow, Jay Heaps is going to have to make some changes at halftime says the commentators.

    Lol. What is Jay Heaps going to do? Bunker down 4-0. You don't get 2 men back after halftime. This is over. There is nothing he can do.
     
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  20. onefineesq

    onefineesq Member+

    Sep 16, 2003
    Laurel, MD
    Club:
    DC United
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    Think these fans are going to come back for the weekend game?
     
  21. PhillyMLS

    PhillyMLS Member+

    Oct 24, 2000
    SE PA
    Here is the problem with that based on how the rules are written. From the LOTG: "Handling the ball involves a deliberate act of a player making contact with the ball with the hand or arm." So if you call that a handball then you have to go to the DOGSO rule which says: "where a player denies the opposing team a goal or an obvious goal-scoring opportunity by a deliberate handball offence the player is sent off wherever the offence occurs." So, by the rules he has to go. Of course, by the rules every handball is deliberate by definition and I'm really not sure about that. And handling isn't listed as a cautionable offence except when the player "handles the ball in an attempt to score a goal (whether or not the attempt is successful) or in an unsuccessful attempt to prevent a goal" or "handles the ball to interfere with or stop a promising attack." So, honestly, Toledo made the correct call by how the laws are written.
     
  22. Sounders78

    Sounders78 Member+

    Apr 20, 2009
    Olympia
    Club:
    Seattle Sounders
    Nat'l Team:
    France
    "New England Revolution must be frightened".

    Um, it's 4-0 at halftime and you're playing with 9 men. I don't think you really care anymore. The game is lost - just get through it without getting hurt.
     
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  23. Sounders78

    Sounders78 Member+

    Apr 20, 2009
    Olympia
    Club:
    Seattle Sounders
    Nat'l Team:
    France
    Yeah, but sometimes rules are made to be broken. Do we really know the ball would have gone in and not hit the crossbar? - I didn't see video evidence of that. (I'm not saying it wouldn't have, I'm just coming up with any excuse that could have been used to give a yellow instead of a red).
     
  24. Mucky

    Mucky Member+

    Mar 30, 2009
    Manchester England
    Club:
    Manchester United FC
    Not debating the letter of the law was followed but even the law uses discretion and takes account of mitigating circumstances.
    All the top Refs have a little think as to whether the letter of the law would be in keeping with the spirit of the game and if not use discretion to make a compromise decision.
     
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  25. jason1551

    jason1551 Member+

    Apr 9, 2003
    Columbus, GA
    Club:
    DC United
    That moment you realize you can watch this game for free on local TV. :thumbsup:

    And it's actually an entertaining game to boot.
     
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