Milan in Serie A 2023/2024

Discussion in 'AC Milan' started by odessit19, Aug 19, 2023.

  1. AGomes

    AGomes Member+

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    Brazil
    Aug 29, 2023

    Right. And modern Italian players don't move abroad. Interesting enough in my feed this morning in an article that appeared in Four-Four-Two Vicario explains why Italian players don't move abroad.

    Here's another: Marco Verratti. Highly successful career completed in France.
     
  2. AGomes

    AGomes Member+

    Juventus
    Brazil
    Aug 29, 2023
    A guy like Alessandro Diamanti. Bounced around more times than just about any player in history. Be it at Bologna, Livorno or West Ham, his numbers were steady. He didn't suddenly play bad after he moved to England.

    A guy like Pazzini would have been a failure in his last stint in Spain the same as if he stayed in Italy and played at a bottom feeder there as well.
     
  3. Il Ciuccio

    Il Ciuccio Member+

    Feb 17, 2010
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    SSC Napoli
    Nat'l Team:
    Italy
    Verratti is overrated
     
  4. AGomes

    AGomes Member+

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    Aug 29, 2023
    #279 AGomes, Feb 21, 2024
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    You watched Ligue 1? My compliments.

    Considering when he left he was the longest serving player and won many domestic trophy's, CL Final, PSG fans sure didn't mind him (the most successful period in their clubs history)

    Any failure players you want to list?
     
  5. Rossonero23

    Rossonero23 Member+

    Sep 9, 2010
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    Which is why Jorginho is a legend! He made it in England!
     
  6. Il Ciuccio

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    Feb 17, 2010
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    He is Brazilian and choose Italy because he knew he would never play for Brazil.
     
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  7. Rossonero23

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    Sep 9, 2010
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    Chelsea jorginho would start for Brazil.
     
  8. johnny6

    johnny6 Member+

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    Italy
    Jun 29, 2011
    Club:
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    Nat'l Team:
    Italy
    EPL is where Italian careers go to die.
     
  9. AGomes

    AGomes Member+

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    Brazil
    Aug 29, 2023
    Wrong. Jorginho wasn't on Brazil's radar because he had been in Italy since age 15. He didn't grow up in the Brazilian ranks, he's an unknown. But if Jorginho had just recently moved over after a stint at a big Brazilian club, his play at Napoli and then Chelsea would have definitely put him on the Brazil radar.

    Some Brazilians wanted Joao Pedro of Cagliari. If they wanted him they most certainly would have wanted Napoli/Chelsea Jorginho. It's just that he was unknown as he didn't play there.
     
  10. Mean Machine

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    May 23, 2018
    Not to mention, back when Conte did not call him up for a while and was being criticized, Brazil's coach Dunga back then actually tried to call him but he declined because he wanted Italy.
     
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  11. AGomes

    AGomes Member+

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    Aug 29, 2023

    Another story is that Brazil only came calling after Italy called. By all accounts Jorginho could have turned around and said No to Italy and accepted Brazil but didn't.

    I guess Diego Costa, as prolific as he was, only played for Spain because Brazil didn't call him. Costa vs Firmino/Gabriel Jesus. Don't know, man. Real tough decision.
     
  12. Il Ciuccio

    Il Ciuccio Member+

    Feb 17, 2010
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    If you say so. Messi left Argentina younger than him. If he was anything special he would have been called up by Brazil. Also playing for Italy is less competition for a starting spot.
     
  13. AGomes

    AGomes Member+

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    Aug 29, 2023
    Really don't follow. Messi was a prodigy and was always well known in Argentina despite not playing there.

    Again now, he did do enough to be called by Brazil. Any simple online search will tell you as much.
     
  14. odessit19

    odessit19 Member+

    Dec 19, 2004
    My gun safe
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    AC Milan
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    Ukraine
    what a joke of a penalty that was awarded.
     
  15. Rossonero23

    Rossonero23 Member+

    Sep 9, 2010
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    Seems like we concede pk every single game.
     
  16. Rossonero23

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    Sep 9, 2010
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    8 pks in 10 games?? How
     
  17. Il Ciuccio

    Il Ciuccio Member+

    Feb 17, 2010
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    SSC Napoli
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    Italy
    Milan needs to pray to Kaka and bring back a core of Brazilian players.
     
  18. odessit19

    odessit19 Member+

    Dec 19, 2004
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    What a shit game, specifically the second half. So frustrating that Bologna is that close to us
     
  19. AGomes

    AGomes Member+

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    Brazil
    Aug 29, 2023
    Shit, I thought you wrote French was the way to go last week. Brasilians too busy in Spain.
     
  20. Rossonero23

    Rossonero23 Member+

    Sep 9, 2010
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    Brazilians are too expensive plus not as good as they use to be.
    Not as bad as current Italian players however.
     
  21. AGomes

    AGomes Member+

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    Brazil
    Aug 29, 2023
    Should bring back Kaladze. Georgian is the way to go. He was a great player.
     
  22. NaohiroTakahara

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    Nov 12, 2013
    Next asssit for Morita.
     
  23. Rossonero23

    Rossonero23 Member+

    Sep 9, 2010
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    As good as any current Italian cb. Started next to Nesta and Stam at times.
     
  24. Il Ciuccio

    Il Ciuccio Member+

    Feb 17, 2010
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    Italy
    Just no more French
     
  25. AGomes

    AGomes Member+

    Juventus
    Brazil
    Aug 29, 2023
    More French. More high boots and more PK's. Automatic on Maignan.

    Yes, Kaladze was a great player. It was sad when they kidnapped his brother. RIP.
     

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